Kim Kaphwan and Jhun Hoon vs Guy and Maki Genryusai

Started by King Nothing3 pages

I think Gouki can literally obliterate Dan with one attack.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Call me when he actually defeats him.
Well said.

I see what you're getting @, but Guy has beaten his master though. He's plenty seasoned. I ain't heard of Kim doing anything but forcing his will on midgets & fatbodies.

😆
still better than doing NOTHING at all.

I think Gouki can literally obliterate Dan with one attack.

dude...i think Sakura can obliterate Dan with one attack.

They're in the same league though, Guy is just better

that's the thing. Jhun and Kim are said to be equal (in fact, behind the other's back they don't even consider the other that tough)

How does that compare to combating army's of Gangbangers that rioted all over a city?

Kim was a crime fighter, betaing up thugs and gangsters like there was no tomorrow. i assume he could do it too. besides he isn't too far below terry even in the FF timeline. also Guy had help...Kim didn't. Not to mention Guy had help from fighting addicts like Cody (who IMO is the coolest Capcmo character).

Well your outcome is dependant on your claim that Kim can beat Guy. I suggest you read the Guy versus Kim thread before you decide on that. Like you said, Guy nor kim have any real feats, so it's hard to jusge thats why the Guy V.s. kim thread was made. And Jhun has only been in a couple KOF tornaments, didnt he get ran over by a car so he had to miss one? That makes him seem pretty weak.

😱 dude....he was hit by a car. can't blame him. heck guts was unconscious after he was rammed into a piller the third time. and that's GUTS!🙂
besides he got hit only after trying to chase Athena...he didn't see it coming.

~Sado

Sorry to say but not only is Guy faster, tougher, and more skilled but he has the Black Out move.

faster...debatable.
tougher...debatable.
more skilled....debatable.

has the black out move...Kim has the phoenix combo.

so we are back at square one. Nice of you to clear out the shady areas King😉

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22

Kim was a crime fighter, betaing up thugs and gangsters like there was no tomorrow. i assume he could do it too. besides he isn't too far below terry even in the FF timeline. also Guy had help...Kim didn't. Not to mention Guy had help from fighting addicts like Cody (who IMO is the coolest Capcmo character).

Again, your grossly exaggerating the amount of help that Guy had during his fight with Mad Gear. He split up with Cody and Haggar in order to cover more ground. He solo'ed Sodom in the underground ring, and took a third of Mad Gear. Until I get any proof that Kim can do the same, your assumptions are unfounded.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I see what you're getting @, but Guy has beaten his master though. He's plenty seasoned. I ain't heard of Kim doing anything but forcing his will on midgets & fatbodies.

BWHAHAHA , "Midgets and fat bodies". I like that one, coz its so sad.... but true.

Originally posted by Sado22

😱 dude....he was hit by a car. can't blame him. heck guts was unconscious after he was rammed into a piller the third time. and that's GUTS!🙂
besides he got hit only after trying to chase Athena...he didn't see it coming.

~Sado

WHAT? how do you agure using GUTS? That has no bearing or correlation to this post. ANyways even if you calimed that was a valid argument.... how do you compare getting hit by a car to getting rammed into a stone pillar THREE TIMES by a GIANTIC DEMON?! Anyways that was a totally pointless arguement. And please dont be a pissy kid and think I'm trying to insult you, coz im not.

Originally posted by Sado22
faster...debatable.
tougher...debatable.
more skilled....debatable.

has the black out move...Kim has the phoenix combo.

so we are back at square one. Nice of you to clear the shady areas King

~Sado

Speed, he's he's so fast he leaves after images.

Tougher, Kim fights a few thugs < Guy fights armies of them, armed with poles to swords.

Skilled, Guy beat a ninja master, Kim beat. . .

The black out move kills, the Phoenix move doesn't

So thank you, I did do a good good job to "clearing those shady areas". I appreciate it. 😄

Guy is also capable of running 100 meters in 10 seconds.

@ emperor...get a grip
@ 2D Master...I know...I was being sarcastic and don't worry. you have to be really good at being a dumbass to actually get me rattled. no harm done.
@ King nothing:

Speed, he's he's so fast he leaves after images

so does Kim. and its only in-game. I'd like to see Guy pile up those combos the way Kim does

Tougher, Kim fights a few thugs < Guy fights armies of them, armed with poles to swords.

we don't really know how big the Mad Gear gang was....in-game the same person comes at you like a gazillion times. hardly counts as "an army".

Skilled, Guy beat a ninja master, Kim beat. . .

Guy beat his unknown, no feets master<<Kim is home town legend

The black out move kills, the Phoenix move doesn't

Kim doesn't kill. He is your typical comic book hero.

So thank you, I did do a good good job to "clearing those shady areas". I appreciate it.

You welcome, cupcake 😄

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22

so does Kim. and its only in-game. I'd like to see Guy pile up those combos the way Kim does

If you wanna go by game-play, I could easily mention his Custom & Variable combo's.

Originally posted by Sado22

we don't really know how big the Mad Gear gang was....in-game the same person comes at you like a gazillion times. hardly counts as "an army".
~Sado

Metro City is a crime filled cesspool, where the powerful Mad Gear
gang, ruled by Belger, basically does whatever they want. The previous
mayor was too scared to take them on and oppose them

Bosses - Damnd, Sodom, Edi. E, Abigail, Rolento, Belger (leader)
Generic enemies that were members:
Dug, Bred
Jake, Simons
Axl, Slash
J, Two.P
Holly Wood, El Gado
Wong Who, G. Oriber, Bill Bull
Poison, Roxy
Andore (Jr., U., F., G.)

FINAL FIGHT 2
Bosses - Won Won, Freddie, Bratken, Philippe, Rolento, Retu (leader)
Generic enemies that were members:
Mic, Mark
Schot, Jack
Jony, Atlas
Elias, Eliot, Joe (molotov guy)
Elijah, Bull
Mary, Eliza
Elick
Andore (Jr., G.)

Not to mention they operate on a Global-level, that's bigger than anything Kim has ever fought in his life time. Plus there's the Skull Cross Gang which created a riot situtation all over the city.

maki and guy still only fought a bunch of losers with a few guys. they seemed to be on screen at the same time for gameplay. if they split up and met up against the last boss, they still helped each other out.

skill wise, kim/jhun's got the ninja's beat as far as kicks go.

if you want to debate speed by afterimages, dan could do that, and almsot everyone from kof or sf can ko him in 1 hit. pretty much everyone has moves that leaves after images.

as far as winning. kim's beaten terry atleast once, and always gives him a hard time. kim/jhun reached the finals one year and had to end up dodging the beam. they also tend to team with some convict losers, or their own students, in a team environment. kim's a national hero in taekwondo, meaning he's won.

Originally posted by lightness
maki and guy still only fought a bunch of losers with a few guys.

Still more than Kim, I don't seew hat's the point off minimalizing a feat for an argument and, losers don't hold a city hostage.

Originally posted by lightness

they seemed to be on screen at the same time for gameplay. if they split up and met up against the last boss, they still helped each other out

Since when has Game-play become the authority of debating games?

Originally posted by lightness

if you want to debate speed by afterimages, dan could do that, and almsot everyone from kof or sf can ko him in 1 hit. pretty much everyone has moves that leaves after images.

What move does dan have which can create an after image?

Originally posted by lightness

as far as winning. kim's beaten terry atleast once, and always gives

PROOF

Guy beat Sodom, a skilled warrior with 2 blades and soon after took on dozens of fighters. What has Kim done to match that? What Master has Kim beaten?

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
BWHAHAHA , "Midgets and fat bodies". I like that one, coz its so sad.... but true.
I like Kim, but SNK seems content w/not letting him do anything. @ least they let him get some trim I guess.
Originally posted by lightness
skill wise, kim/jhun's got the ninja's beat as far as kicks go.
That's quite possible seeing as TKD is almost all kicks. Guy's got him beat in punching, grappling & takedowns though. I'd also be super happy if you could prove Kim's beaten Terry.

Still more than Kim, I don't seew hat's the point off minimalizing a feat for an argument and, losers don't hold a city hostage

emperor,
people here are insisting the MAd gear is a huge gang that held metorcity hostage and i ask how many people are there in it....and the answer is 25.

Metro city is full of wimps if they can't even take on [COUNTING] 25 thugs out of which two are cross dressing hermies and the leader is wheelchair bound jackass.
what do you call a city that gets taken over by 25 people?

and of the lot, how many people out of 25 did Guy face on his own? at least Cody was in Industrial area on his own.
and why is such a big deal being made out of Sodom-izer? what has he ever done except get his keister beat up and being a last minute addition to the SFA series?
oh and...
"he's got two swords" is NOT an answer!

if sodom is supposed to such a great threat then:
-Kim beat down Choi and Chang TOGETHER. Chang is brute strength wtih 3 massive ball, one of which is made of iron and tied with a chain, and is a legimate weapon which he has shown great control and skill with. Choi has two claws, has great evasive ability and since people were making a big issue out of Pussyboy Vega due to his claws and jumping, then Choi has shown even better jumping abilities and has TWO claws. and Kim beat them TOGETHER in a two-on-one fight.

Since when has Game-play become the authority of debating games?

ask Nothing. he was the one who brought it up.

What move does dan have which can create an after image?

the ryuku renbu spoof move

Not to mention they operate on a Global-level, that's bigger than anything Kim has ever fought in his life time. Plus there's the Skull Cross Gang which created a riot situtation all over the city.

proves nothing at all. Guy fought 25 losers who had taken over a city. he didn't fight the rest of the world did he?
i could just as easily bring up how Kim helped in taking down NESTS in KoF2001 and Orochi in KoF97. he was there helping then too.

~Sado

Ops sorry

Originally posted by Sado22
emperor,
people here are insisting the MAd gear is a huge gang that held metorcity hostage and i ask how many people are there in it....and the answer is 25.

Metro city is full of wimps if they can't even take on [COUNTING] 25 thugs out of which two are cross dressing hermies and the leader is wheelchair bound jackass.
what do you call a city that gets taken over by 25 people?

Versus the cops not being able to take down a Fat guy who looks like the asian version of bone crusher and mini Freddy kugaer/ michael Jackson mixture?

If were going to minimalize I'll think I'll do it as well.

Originally posted by Sado22

and of the lot, how many people out of 25 did Guy face on his own? at least Cody was in Industrial area on his own.
and why is such a big deal being made out of Sodom-izer? what has he ever done except get his keister beat up and being a last minute addition to the SFA series?
oh and...
"he's got two swords" is NOT an answer!

Sado, Guy split up as well as Cody to cover more ground and, Sodom has held his own against Honda and has a very high power rating according to juni. No need to minimalize just to support your argument, not to mention that Guy also fought the Skull Cross gang which is more than I can say for kim.

Originally posted by Sado22

proves nothing at all. Guy fought 25 losers who had taken over a city. he didn't fight the rest of the world did he?
i could just as easily bring up how Kim helped in taking down NESTS in KoF2001 and Orochi in KoF97. he was there helping then too.

~Sado

Kim fighitng nest is a completely different timeline and You know it, Sado. Also, I could easily bring up guy fighiting Shadooloo and rose.

"25 losers" huh, well if your going to downplay Mad Gear and Make Cheech and chan. . . I mean Choi and chang look like master warriors simply for kim sake. Then I really see no point in continuing.

Chang looks like Rick Ross