Originally posted by AlfheimOh I see Einnis is crap, anything with Frank doing well is crap as well?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Oh shut up for **** sake. You do know Frank has shot Spiderman before, right. You do know Frank has pinned Spiderman to the wall with a knife right?
yes he hit a novice spiderman once.......and he pinnd spdierman to a wal with a knife even though spidermans 100 times his strength..............
I think that Wolverine would win if they met "gladiator" style and fought in an arena or like they did in the comics. However, I think it's possible that Frank could assassinate him/kill an oblivious Wolverine. However, Frank's weapons are pretty amazing and so is his aim. So despite the fact that Wolverine's physically superior, Frank has a shot.
Please, let's not argue.
Originally posted by capt it up
im sorry do bullets go faster now when frank shoots them........
Yeah because his reflexes and accuracy are better than other shooters. If two atheletes set off at the sametime but one has faster reflexes. The one with fatser reflexes is going to go further when the its time to start the same applies with bullets.
Originally posted by capt it up
also ive seen the one were he shoots spiderman and spiderman in experienced and a novice.
So he still has superhuman reflexes.
Originally posted by capt it up
ya frank should really be able to pinn spiderman who about 100 times his strength aginst a wall.
Well you can argue about getting pinned but there is nothing to say he should not be accurate enough for him to hit Spiderman where he did with the knife.
Originally posted by capt it up
.......I bet you think frank should have been able to put spiderman in a head lock too.......
No I dont.
Originally posted by llagrok
I think that Wolverine would win if they met "gladiator" style and fought in an arena or like they did in the comics. However, I think it's possible that Frank could assassinate him/kill an oblivious Wolverine. However, Frank's weapons are pretty amazing and so is his aim. So despite the fact that Wolverine's physically superior, Frank has a shot.Please, let's not argue.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah because his reflexes and accuracy are better than other shooters. If two atheletes set off at the sametime but one has faster reflexes. The one with fatser reflexes is going to go further when the its time to start the same applies with bullets.
Originally posted by Alfheim
So he still has superhuman reflexes.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well you can argue about getting pinned but there is nothing to say he should not be accurate enough for him to hit Spiderman where he did with the knife.
Originally posted by Alfheim
No I dont.
Spidermans strength>>>>>>Wolverines>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>franks
Originally posted by capt it up
what? please I love to know how.......unless you mean frank gets massive one sided prep and attacks an unknowing wolverine...that also to assume that wolverine does not sense him.......then frank would have to have enough power to take logan down right off the bat which well won't happen unless he dropping a bomb on wolverine and then when wolverine wakes up what frank gunna do?
That's what I meant by Wolverine being completely oblivious. It's possible to hide one's scent, that's what Agent X is doing. If Wolverine had no idea then Punisher could take him. When Wolverine was together with the native, I was easily immobilized with a sniper shot in the spine. Frank could do the same.
Now, this does not belong in this thread. Please make a thread in the versus forum if you want to. If you want to discuss, then discuss if/if not the Punisher/any character is underestimated.
Originally posted by llagrok
That's what I meant by Wolverine being completely oblivious. It's possible to hide one's scent, that's what Agent X is doing. If Wolverine had no idea then Punisher could take him. When Wolverine was together with the native, I was easily immobilized with a sniper shot in the spine. Frank could do the same.Now, this does not belong in this thread. Please make a thread in the versus forum if you want to. If you want to discuss, then discuss if/if not the Punisher/any character is underestimated.
also did you jsut use the naive arck as evidence...do you know how many tiems there controdicted there selfs.........it was the worst arc ever and it been ignored by marvel ever since....
Originally posted by llagrok
That's what I meant by Wolverine being completely oblivious. It's possible to hide one's scent, that's what Agent X is doing. If Wolverine had no idea then Punisher could take him.
I support this contention...Wolverine's heightened senses are NOT infallible, as Puck (and, I'm sure, others) have shown...
It IS possible to sneak attack Wolverine...just not very easy...
Originally posted by shksprtx
I support this contention...Wolverine's heightened senses are NOT infallible, as Puck (and, I'm sure, others) have shown...It IS possible to sneak attack Wolverine...just not very easy...
"There's no adamantium down there, ugh"
Puck is one of the many underestimated alpha flight characters. His strength is around Spider man's level I think.
Originally posted by llagrok
"There's no adamantium down there, ugh"Puck is one of the many underestimated alpha flight characters. His strength is around Spider man's level I think.
Actually, since his "upgrade," Puck's strength is somewhere around the 2-ton class, I believe...close, but not quite Spidey-level yet...
But his agility and reflexes are much closer to Spider-man's...
You're right -- he's consistently underrated by both readers and writers...