Christianity, you have made me sad today.

Ockams razor is baloney. "when 2 conflicting ideas or philosophies are present, the simpler one is correct" bologna bologna bologna. and even if it werent, the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit working in my heart is much more simple than some "logical" jibberish. call me a liar all you want. i take joy and pride in suffering for what I believe, love, and hold fast to as the truth. and im very sorry that you feel otherwise. you just wont be able to convince me to believe your points of view at this point in time, so I wouldn't even bother if I were you. thanx anyways for discussing.....or should i say, disagreeing?

Somebody wrote that when I was discussing Ockham's razor and how Christianity and logic/reason ought to coexist. (And don't give me a smartass remark about that.)

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Well, hes correct on his initial point...but HORRIBLE application.

Nah, I think Ockham's razor is pretty good. It might not apply in all cases, but "keep it simple, stupid!" is a fine philosophy.

Its nice on large scale applications.

However, Occams razor has never met quantum mech.

It is a good thing that most of the applications of Ockham's razor will not be using quantum mechanics.

Do I turn left or right?

Turn both ways 😖

Occam's razor applies just fine to quantum physics. You're just using it to choose between stranger theories.

Originally posted by FeceMan
*Sighs.*

Somebody wrote that when I was discussing Ockham's razor and how Christianity and logic/reason ought to coexist. (And don't give me a smartass remark about that.)

Don't blame a billion people because of someones opinion.

Originally posted by Gregory
Occam's razor applies just fine to quantum physics. You're just using it to choose between stranger theories.

I disagree. We have no mechanism for gravity...yet we accept the theory.

Originally posted by Alliance
I disagree. We have no mechanism for gravity...yet we accept the theory.

Well, it has proven quite accurate.

Originally posted by FeceMan
*Sighs.*

Somebody wrote that when I was discussing Ockham's razor and how Christianity and logic/reason ought to coexist. (And don't give me a smartass remark about that.)

Why is he talking about Bologna? Thrice?

Originally posted by FeceMan
(And don't give me a smartass remark about that.)

Originally posted by Alliance
Its nice on large scale applications.

However, Occams razor has never met quantum mech.

wtf are you talking about?

occam's razor is crucial to quantum physics

the REAL occam's razor has nothing to do with "simplicity". Generally speaking, if there are two equally plausable answers to a question, you choose the answer that proposes fewer unknowns about the universe.

In quantum mechanics, this keeps people from the crazy stuff. Consciousness or quantum telepathy, and all that other quantum nonsense are only refutable because occam's razor says they are ridiculous. It is the fact that there are such vast unknowns in quantum that occam's razor becomes absolutely necessary.

Originally posted by Alliance
I disagree. We have no mechanism for gravity...yet we accept the theory.

occam's razor has nothing to do with proposed mechanisms

that is falsifiability and replication

Occams razor is such:

"If two theories provide equal powers of prediction, the one which proposes the fewest hypotheticals is usually better."