Tenebrous vs Tiamut

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Imo the outcome haven't changed.

Tiamut easily..

Tiamut is The Fulcrums equal. And from what we can tell the fulcrum is either TOAA or something very close.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Tiamut is The Fulcrums equal. And from what we can tell the fulcrum is either TOAA or something very close.

that answers my question about who the fulcrum is.anyways tiamut ftw

Young Jedi's thread got some good responses and scans after the bump

woot

Tiamut the Communicator FTW

Wish there was more about the Fulcrum. Too many people speculating it's TOAA.

I think its TOAA 😬

That's the drugs talking.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Wish there was more about the Fulcrum. Too many people speculating it's TOAA.

Eh, he says that no being has ever questioned him and that he seeded life on planets for an immeasurable amount of time. He also existed before the current Universe. Maybe he's TOAA's dad? /shrug

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That's the drugs talking.
So 😕

We know this much. For a long time we have read that the Celestials serve higher being. But now it specifically state that the Watchers, Celestials, and Horde serve the Fulcrum. The Fulcrum is regarded as all powerful, and all knowing capable of unmaking a Celestial, and predates the Universe.

And Tiamut is his =

Originally posted by id369
We know this much. For a long time we have read that the Celestials serve higher being. But now it specifically state that the Watchers, Celestials, and Horde serve the Fulcrum. The Fulcrum is regarded as all powerful, and all knowing capable of unmaking a Celestial, and predates the Universe.

Add all that to the fact that it's been stated on panel that Eternity created the Celestials then the Fulcrum must be Eternity no?

I don't know who or what the Fulcrum is but I know that TOAA = the writer/artist so the Fulcrum isn't TOAA.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Add all that to the fact that it's been stated on panel that Eternity created the Celestials then the Fulcrum must be Eternity no?

I don't know who or what the Fulcrum is but I know that TOAA = the writer/artist so the Fulcrum isn't TOAA.


The Fulcrum says no other being is his equal. Scathan, who was the only one who could help LT beat protege, answers to The Fulcrum. LT says he's second only to TOAA. So logically the fulcrum is either TOAA or above him..

Originally posted by kgkg
Tiamut has evolved he wins easy now

Pretty much.

Tiamut wins of course.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
The Fulcrum says no other being is his equal.

There were many who said that. Anyway, even if he is so powerful, I don't consider him TOAA. Especially, because I don't see TOAA saying to anyone being his equal. No one can be equal to TOAA. Not to mention that Tiamut draws his power from TOAA.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Eh, he says that no being has ever questioned him and that he seeded life on planets for an immeasurable amount of time. He also existed before the current Universe. Maybe he's TOAA's dad? /shrug

Fulcrum is probably the one whom TOAA gave such powers and job to create life in MU. If this is the case, then Tiamut can be Fulcrum equal in power. But guess what, it was TOAA who decided and gave Tiamut power so that he can be Fulcrum equal.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Tiamut wins of course.

There were many who said that. Anyway, even if he is so powerful, I don't consider him TOAA. Especially, because I don't see TOAA saying to anyone being his equal. No one can be equal to TOAA. Not to mention that Tiamut draws his power from TOAA.

Fulcrum is probably the one whom TOAA gave such powers and job to create life in MU. If this is the case, then Tiamut can be Fulcrum equal in power. But guess what, it was TOAA who decided and gave Tiamut power so that he can be Fulcrum equal.


We have no scans to prove your stance. But scans to support The Fulcrum being TOAA or some sort of representation of him. If The Fulcrum says no one is above him....wouldn't that make him "The One Above All"

I don't think the Fulcrum said anything to indicate that Tiamut has the same power as him, merely that Tiamut had the power to override the directives/programming that The Fulcrum made/seeded him with.

The Fulcrum says he has been searching since the time of the Big Crunch, for a Celestial who was an individual (who could override his programming, seems to be what he's saying)... as an aside, surely he must have met Galactus, I want to see how the Big G fits into this.

I suspect Fulcrum is just someone a little further up the evolutionary ladder, don't think he's the ultimate (or even penultimate) anything ... just like Galactus, more powerful than Celestials but not on the level of the LT.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
The Fulcrum says no other being is his equal. Scathan, who was the only one who could help LT beat protege, answers to The Fulcrum. LT says he's second only to TOAA. So logically the fulcrum is either TOAA or above him..
Ridiculous.

I should smack you.