Create the ultimate Mutant and pit them in a battle against Thanos

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Entity Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
About Rogue becoming NewSon by stealing Gambit's powers? You. He lacks the ability to reach that level.
He lacks it now yea but Rogue wouldn't if she stoled his powers plus you said it yourselves. Gambit can't become the New Sun anymore.

How could they steal the total power of the 198?

Simple. Assuming Rogue has Xavier's powers then she could use that to force all the others to willing allow her to steal all theirs. Once she has all their abilities she'd be quite the force to be reckoned with.

So you can use Gambit as new sun but Rogue can't steal his powers and do that?ermm

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

New Sun is a separate character from Gambit. Gambit does not have the ability to use or sustain that level of power.

Umm....wouldn't Rogue's doing that mean prep time? 😕 And isn't this a straight fight, no prep thread?

Entity Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
New Sun is a separate character from Gambit. Gambit does not have the ability to use or sustain that level of power.
He doesn't have the ability to be New Sun because Sinister plasted inhibitors in his genome. Which Rogue wouldn't have apone asorbing his power!

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Umm....wouldn't Rogue's doing that mean prep time? 😕 And isn't this a straight fight, no prep thread?
Good point I don't guess there was any since the original poster didn't state that.

Also couldn't Rogue asorb Thanos's life force while mentally attacking him with Xavier's power?
I mean I would guess she couldn't because Thanos is like uber or what ever but why not exactly?

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Let me put it this way. Have you ever seen any mutant try to absorb power cosmic? It's too much. It would drive her mad. And mentally attacking him is useless. Thanos is a much higher TP than Xavier.

Entity Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Let me put it this way. Have you ever seen any mutant try to absorb power cosmic? It's too much. It would drive her mad. And mentally attacking him is useless. Thanos is a much higher TP than Xavier.
Ok, but if a human like Doom can asorb power cosmic then why couldn't Rogue?

Also what other mutant can asorb powers naturally?

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
New Sun is a separate character from Gambit. Gambit does not have the ability to use or sustain that level of power.

He's not really a separate character per se. He is just Gambit fully trained and unadopted by Jean-Luc. They both had the same level of power.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Doom used an assload of tech to do it. And frankly, I'd put his will-power over that of Rogues.

I'm sure there are others who can absorb powers.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord
Originally posted by StyleTime
He's not really a separate character per se. He is just Gambit fully trained and unadopted by Jean-Luc. They both had the same level of power.

Not true. Gambit's power was prevented from reaching that level by Mr. Sinister. And after battling New Sun, he burned his powers out, preventing them from ever reaching that level again.

Potentially, they had the same level of power. But in terms of application and ability, they are worlds apart.

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

Squirrel Girl + anyone

The second is just deadweight

illadelph12 aka Rakim Illa

Darwin + Apocalypse.

manorastroman Senior Member

vulcan (with darwin, petra, and sway)+rachel grey (tp/tk)

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Not true. Gambit's power was prevented from reaching that level by Mr. Sinister. And after battling New Sun, he burned his powers out, preventing them from ever reaching that level again.

Potentially, they had the same level of power. But in terms of application and ability, they are worlds apart.


Wow dude. I own the run. Gambit received surgery from Sinister and acheived the same level of power as New Sun, who is Gambit. New Sun dimension hopped to stop this world to prevent Gambit from destroying the planet on accident like had happened in every other reality New Sun traveled to. Every, and I repeat, every Gambit reached this level of power.

I already said New Sun was fully trained in the use of powers since childbirth. That is what made him appear more powerful.

Entity Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by manorastroman
vulcan (with darwin, petra, and sway)+rachel grey (tp/tk)
Thats not really much different form my Vulcan/X-man idea.

Doesn't Vulcan still have Darwin's powers now?
I've been told by a few people he does, atleast to a limited degree.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Really? Oh. Ok. My bad. The image didn't load btw. I thought the story was that Mr. Sinister prevented him from achieving the full measure of his powers, then reversed what he did in the first place?

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Really? Oh. Ok. My bad. The image didn't load btw. I thought the story was that Mr. Sinister prevented him from achieving the full measure of his powers, then reversed what he did in the first place?
No, he took out gray matter from Gambit's brain on Gambit's own volition because the kid was scared of his own powers. And then he reversed the procedure because Gambit asked him to.

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Really? Oh. Ok. My bad. The image didn't load btw. I thought the story was that Mr. Sinister prevented him from achieving the full measure of his powers, then reversed what he did in the first place?

Yeah. Gambit was afraid he would end up nuking Earth so he got his gray matter removed voluntarily. He got the gray matter back because he needed to time travel. Meh, the whole story is a bit confusing anyway. Not your fault.

I forgot how to code thumbnails last time. Sorry about that. Try the image now. The first is New Sun explaining a bit of origin. The second is showing his true appearance without the kinetic energy facade.


TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

*whistles* Kickass. Did New Sun actually bring down Dark Phoenix? Exactly how powerful was he?

Utrigita Senior Member
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Let me put it this way. Have you ever seen any mutant try to absorb power cosmic? It's too much. It would drive her mad. And mentally attacking him is useless. Thanos is a much higher TP than Xavier.

For what reasons would you put Thanos above Professor X.

llagrok Restricted
Originally posted by Utrigita
For what reasons would you put Thanos above Professor X.

I wouldn't put Thanos above Xavier, far from it. Didn't even know his telepathy was above Moondragon's.

Proteus in Mr.Immortal or Hulk's body.
An aged Kid Omega
MJJ
Jamie Braddock
Legion+X-man+Vulcan O.o ?

King Kandy Senior Member

Ooh, I got it...

Mr. Immortal/Protege.