Originally posted by Arachnid1
Alright Parker. Time for a response. I haven't finished reading this entire thread yet so don't be under the impession that I have. I'm just giving my opinion so far. Now, before I say anything, just know I'm not big on conspiracy theories, so take what I say with a grain of salt.You say Clinton is corrupt because of a body count. Sure, it looks suspisious, but theres no actual proof he was directly involved in all those murders and caused them. Also, if Carol Quigley is Clintons mentor, doesn't that mean Clinton learned some stuff from the dude? From how you describe him, he seems like an honest to god good guy. If Clintons mentor was a good person, then I doubt Clinton himself would turn out all that bad. Maybe he just had bad luck in office.
I don't really think Bush is corrupt either. He's just an idiot.
What are some truely horrible stuff they where caught doing?
Something else I wanted to mention to you earlier Arachnid1 is you cant become president if your an idiot though.Evil and corrupt yes but not if your an idiot. also I wanted to answer this question you asked.Yeah Clinton learned some stuff from Quigley and yeah QUIGLEY was a good dude but just because someone studied under them doesnt mean THEY are always going to turn out that way though.Like have you ever known someone who growing up with them they fell into the wrong crowd later on and wound up doing bad things to people?
Well thats what happened with Clinton.He was targeted at an early age early on in his college years because they spotted him as someone they knew would do anything to anybody to get what he wanted and they liked that about him.He went to Yale and to get into yale you got to be pretty smart.Bush and Bush jr went there as well. Well Yale is well known as a recruitment place by the CIA where they recruit people into the CIA there.its widely known.as I mentioned earlier,the book that I am talking about talks about Clinton using CIA connections he had to get him working for the CIA briefly.I will talk more about what the book syas later on when I have more time.and as I mentioned earlier in the beginning,Terry Reed a former asset for the CIA detailed Clintons CIA connections as well while he was governor.
you probably saw it earlier but just in case you forgot,Quigley in that book TRAGEDY AND HOPE the history of the world. in that 1000 plus page book goes into great details and shows overwhelming facts how there is no difference between the republican party and the democrat party.how they both work together and have the same agenda.How they scratch each others back to help the other out.I call the republicans the republicrats and the democrats the demopublicans because they have the same exact goals and agenda.
This book that Quigley wrote,you'll never find it at a bookstore or be able to order it through one or even check it out through interlibrary loan at the library because its a rare and hard to find book that was banned years ago.I was very fortunate to come across a copy of it and be one of the few rare ones to get one since I subscribe to REAL newspapers like MEDIA BYPASS and publications like that that cover news you'll never hear the mainstream press cover or hear on the nightly news since they're controlled by the CIA. since I was smart enough to subscribe to that newspaper,I was fortunate enough to be one of the first ones to order the book years back when that newspaper was making them available to the public.its too bad that this book is suppressed by the goverment because theres some amazing stuff in there that Quigley talks about you wont hear practically anywhere else.
but thats how the government is though,always suprressing the truth from the public.
the first part of this book CROSSFIRE.witness in the clinton investigation.goes on to talk about how L.D. BROWN got a job with clinton.He first transferred from the university at fayetteville to pine bluff and needed a job while attending college at night and to his surprise,he got hired by the Tucker prison between pine bluff and little rock.serving as a guard in the security tower there.Being in law enforcement is what later led to him getting on and getting a job as Clintons body guard in the governors mansion.Browns first jad at clinton in the book goes on saying-I was equally amazed that as governor,he never lifted a finger to reform that system while he had the chance.when he left office,the same corrupt prison officials were in power.
so if anyone here ignorantly thinks bill clinton was a good man,think again.
Okay I showed how the beginning page goes on in this book also to talk about Browns knowledge of the clinton/bush connection just like terry reed talked about it as well does daniel hopsicker.Brown goes on to state in his book-Bill Clinton liked Ronald Reagan.when we talked about Reagan,he saw in him a man who made it to the white house without having to go through the armed forces to get there. L.D why does a man have to serve in the military to be elected president of the united states? he asked more than once.
Through our conversations,it was clear that Reagan was everything he wanted to be politically-popular,well-loved and forgiven for all his mistakes.From the current polls and his evasion of an impeachment conviction,I would say that Bill had taken up where Reagan left off and has become the thermonuclear Teflon president.With George Bush,the situation was curiously different.I never met Reagan,at least not with Bill,but he DID introduce me to George Bush,whem he liked as well.
It was the occassion of of the National Governors Association meeting in PortLand Maine near Bushs Kennebunkport home.Robin Dickey was there along with her daughter Helen,Bill,Hillary,and Chelsea.The family and I had taken a route by way Wellesley Massachusetts where Hillary was to give a speech at her Alma Malta.
The first thing you noticed about George Bush is his height.Whne Bill introduced me to him at the Portland Maine holiday Inn,Bill knew I was a big fan of his.He was a former director of the Central Intelligence.Little did I know at that time that later I would meet and talk with Bush many more times and fly Bush's children around Arkansas in the 1988 Presidential campaine.To this day I cannot prove where the closeness of the relationship between Bill and George is derived from.chapter 7 will present information from which a reasonable person will be able to draw conclusions.Bill and Hillary were to attend a dinner there that night with the Reagans.
Dan Lasater should need no introductionto the followers of Bill Clintons political career.He's the man who,when testifying before senator Alfonse D' Amatos Whitewater committee.stated that he thought giving away cocaine was not as bad as selling it,a crime for which he was eventually sentenced to federal prison-which I have discussed many times before-a criminal clinton pardoned.Dan was a frequent visitor to the governors Mansion,but only while Hillary was away.She hated him.She knew he represented opportunitys for Bill to have sex with women Dan had at the ready,and for cocaine use.
here is where it REALLY gets interesting in the book.chapter 8 called BILL CLINTON,THE C.I.A. RECRUITMENT OFFICER.Brown goes on to start if off saying-I had seen enough of the clintons and the governor's mansion.I had gone through a divorce,met the women who would become my wife and grown weary of the scadalous behaviour that shrouded my life with Bill Clinton.It was time to move on.my first effort to get another job would strangely turn out to be the beginning of the end for our relationship.
Hillary always recieved the new york times sunday edition at the mansion by courier.I would take the paper to her and carefully monitor when she would be done so I too would be able to read it.on april 1st 1984 I retrived the paper and began to look in the employment section as I had begun to do since I had decided to leave the mansion.I was startled to see a large advertisement for postions within the Central Inteliigence Agency right there with the corporate announcements for available employment opportunitys.As I finished the advertisement,Bill came out the back door of the mansion and out to the guard house.I immediately showed him the announcement with the first question being if it was real. L.D. I always said that you would make a great spy. he went on to encourage me to apply with "answer the ad,I'll help you with it."
BIll was always reading spy novels from authors such as John Le Carre' when not devouring more serious fare.Bill had a connection to the agency.A contact which he never revealed to me but which he was about to call into action.He encouraged me to complete my paperwork as fast as i could so he could "start making some calls for me."
with the preliminaries out of the way,I was contacted by the Personal representative in Dallas Tx,Kent Cargile.Mr Cargile explained that I would be contacted by letter and given a number to call collect at a specific time and date.
In the correspondence with the C.I.A,was a request to prepare a 500 word essay on a current event.when I showed this to Bill,he had a quick suggestion. "L.D. write it on the conflict in Central America.Make it an Anti Marxism paper.thats what they want to hear and I'll hep you with it."
was his advise.I started on it and Bill would help making corrections,suggestions,and deletions.
I got on with the agency and was told by the personal representative to ask for Mr Dan Magruders room at the hilton on commerce street downtown.I was a little apprehensive about the meeting but Bill had admonished me to just cooperate with the agency and do what I was told.I felt I needed to keep my mouth shut and just answer,not ask questions.Magruder assured me I had a VERY good chance at employment with the agency.Having done my research,I knew the operations officers position was a plum.I always felt Magruder knew Clinton from some past association.
Bill was loving every minute of living this association with the C.I.A. through me.By using the C.I.A and me,he would push my ability to follow orders to the breaking point-and destroy our friendship.As I began to be concerned whether or not the agency would call me back,Bill said not to worry.that I would be getting a telephone call.
I talked in the beginning of Barry Seals connection to Clinton and Bush at the beginning with the terry reed story,Brown as well goes on to talk about it here saying-Barry seal was a crazy man.Seal telephoned me and told me he was the man I was told would call me.I was suppose to meet whith him at Cajons wharf.a hangout for the bond daddys such as Dan Lasatar and company.
The first words out of Seal's mouth,"Hows the gov?" reminded me of Magruders apparent familiarity with Bill.
the next chapter goes into the Mean connection that I have talked about extensively on this thread especially at the very beginning with the Terry Reed story which Brown corrabates in the book. here it talks more about it here with
Chapter Nine.Bill Clinton and the crimes of Mena.
Mena arkansas is a tiny town near the oklahoma border in Far western arkansas.I dont know why Seal wanted to meet me in such a far away place for an out of country trip.We seemingly retraced our steps back to Mena when another change of plan unfolded.This one would cause me to confront Bill Clinton with evidence of a crime HE knew was being committed.
Brown after finding out that he was helping smuggling arms into nicuragua and that drugs were being flown into Mena arkansas and Clinton knew about it goes on to say-I at once felt a sense of panic and relief that Seal was gone.Had he left something in the car? was I about to be surrounded by the police? wait a minute.I WAS the police and furthermore,this was an operation sanctioned by the C.I.A. and I was recruited by them-and By Bill Clinton.I was furious with Bill for shepherding me through this mess,indeed for getting me involved.as soon as I got back to the mansion I was getting mad all over again as I got out of my car and he strode over to me.His mouth opened and the words-"you having fun yet? which he had kept repeating the whole time while Brown was doing dirty work for the CIA,those words were getting ready to burst out of his mouth again when Brown goes on to sayto Clinton-Do you know what they're bringing back on those airplanes? He immediatley threw up his hands and said-"Thats Lasaters deal! Thast Lasaters deal! he whined as if he had just taken a tongue lashing from Hillary."and your buddy Bush knows about it." Clinton SHOULD have been saying MY buddy Bush knows about it since as proven in this book,Clinton has a long standing friendship with Clinton. Brown goes on to say-The only place I had ever seen Bill in a room where cocaine was available was at Lasaters.was the cocaine on the plane REALLY Lasaters deal? I cant say for sure but Dan was involved in convicted of distrubution of cocaine.and what of the " my buddy Bush comment?" what was I to make of that? Did the cozy and pleasant relationship Bill had to Bush have a connection to all of this? Is that why,years later,I was allowed to fly the Bush kids around Arkansas and openly campaine for him in the 1988 presidential election? I wish I had the answers.The country deserves to know the truth.
Bill and the C.I.A. were obviously worried about what I knew and what,if anything,I would so with the information.Bill and I never spoke again about that plane trip or of his claim of Lasaters involvement.But I was not done with the C.I.A.In early 1985,I received a telephone call from a man at the mansion who identified himself as Felix Rodriguez.A man who claimed he was Barry Seals boss.Felix Rodriguez is a Cuban American with a long history of intelligence work.Rodriguez did talk as if he knew Bill and it always puzzled me that he knew how to get into the back gate to the Mansion.He never asked directions on the telephone and only people familiar with the mansion knew the back gate to be the easiest point of entry.
this next chapter in the book reads
CHAPTER TEN.Leaving the mansion,Bill,Hillary and the agency.
By this time I was finished with the C.I.A for good,or so I thought. Brown starts off saying.Rodriguez told me they had found the guy flying the second seat of the c-123 I had flown on,the plane Seal used to fly the coke into Mena.The man was to be in Puerto Vallarta Mexico on june 21st and I was to be there to take care of him.I was told to find the target at the Hotel Playa Conchas Chinas.I was in mexico to kill someone.
Brown doesnt explain it all in this book but apparently he must have screwed up the oppurtunity to kill th eman because here is what ot goes on to say.-We left puerto vallarta that afternoon as I thought I would never see that man again.I was wrong.Ten years later I would be giving a deposition in a civil case he would bring in Little Rock Arkansas.His name was Terry Reed.
Years Later,Terry Reed wrote a book titled COMPROMISED.CLINTON,BUSH AND THE C.I.A. in which he details his alleged involvement with the agency.Reed writes of training flights he participated in at Mena where he served as an instructor pilot.In the book,which someone sent me in the mail unsoliicited,I saw to me chagrin Reed was the man I had been sent to see in Puerto Vallarta almost ten years earlier.Reed,who apparently keeps records liek i do,had even kept and printed his hotel receipts from the Playa Conchas Chinas Hotel in Puerto Vallarat in june of 1986.
The book followed a 1991 lawsuit Reed filed against Buddy Young,the chief of security at the Governors Mansion for Bill Clinton,and Tommy Baker,a former police sargent.Reed claimed the two had fabricated a criminal case against Reed and his wife because of damaging information Reed knew about Bill Clinton.Essentially,he alleged that Clinton knew of and actively participated in the Mena Operation.On at least one occassion,Reed claimed to have met Clinton with Young present.I first read of the Reed allegations in the Little Rock newspapers.I had been subpoenaed by Reed in his lawsuit.I gave a 5 hour deposition to Reeds lawyers and the lawyer for the state of arkansas who was representing Buddy Young.I didnt know if Reed knew anything about my presence in mexico while he was there.He apparently had been sent by Rodriguez as well.The depostion ended without any mention of the mexico trip but I knew sooner or later I would be found out.As soon as the statue of limitations had run,I would cooperate with the investigation and grant an interview to Bob Tyrell of the american spectater who would later incorporate the accounts into his book Boy Clinton.
Reeds lawsuit would never make it to court.Federal Judge George Howard in Little Rock,disallowed any mention of C.I.A.,MENA or any other activities that Reed or I had testified to in the depostions.The suit was effectively gutted.If Reed couldnt get the evidence about C.I.A entered,the suit had no chance.
THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING THROUGHOUT THIS THREAD.REED NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO SHOW HOW CORRUPTED CLINTON IS BECAUSE THERE IS ONE DIFFERENT LAW FOR POLITICIANS AND ONE DIFFERENT ONE FOR CITIZENS -as we all know.presidents sadly,can get away with anything.
Brown then goes on to say-first of all,anyone with any degree of intelligence could reason that the ONLY way Seal knew to contact me was through someone at the C.I.A. or Bill Clinton.The C.I.A. and Clinton
were the only people who knew of the details of my application and staus with the agency.It doesnt bother me that the C.I.A. stonewalls on the issue of Mena airport,I understand that there is a need to keep the secrets of intelligence gathering,its methology and findings.What DOES bother me is Billl Clinton,Governor of arkansas,was involved,a man who would be president of the united states.what the heck was he doing and why did he get ME involved?
Two troopers have come forward to admit they heard Bill talking about Mena airport as well.Trooper Bobby Walker told me that one day,as he and Bill were landing at the Mena airport,Bobby saw the c-123 parked on the tarmac.He asked Bill if the national guard was there and Bill told him no,the plane was used for something else.Trooper Larry Patterson also said he overheard a conversation concerning Mena between Colonel Goodwin of the state police and Clinton.
There was one more curious aspect of the Mena case that involves George Bush.Bill and I always agreed about Bush.He made it a point to introduce me to him at the occassion in Portland Maine and never berated him like Hillary did.There was some sort of common bond they shared all the way to Bush's white House.Incredibly to me,Bush appointed Bill to a national education panel to study education in America and had Bill and Hillary over to the white house.Becky and I laughed as we saw George and Barbara take them in with open arms.
But even more strange,was that the state police in Arkansas,with full knowledge of then governor Bill Clinton,allowed me to escort the Bush clan all over the state during the 1988 presidential campaine.Bush was seeking to continue the Reagan legacy and Bill was the national co-chairman of Democrat nominee Mike Dukakis.
I flew around Arkansas with Bush's sons Marvin,Neil,and george.George Junior as we called him,is the current govenor of Texas.Bush's brother Bucky Bush came in from St Louis and we all partied at the capital bar to Buckys rendition of George Bush for president sung to the tune of God Bless America.I have great photos of the events and when I took them,I still wonder how I was allowed to do all that on state police time.
Why did Bill allow this? was it Mena and some sort of partnership that existed a few years earlier? If Terry Reeds book is to be believed,one did exist.Soon after the 1988 presidential election,when Clinton allowed me to work in the Bush campaine,I traveled to washington D.C. to met with the future governor of Texas,George Walker Bush.The eldest son of George and Barbara Bush.I had accompanied George Junior,as he was called,around Little Rock.
Regardless of what the complete story was,bottom line,I was used.Im not surprised and neither is anyone else who has known Bill and Hillary for more than two seconds.whether it is the woman who may be a potential mark,the unsuspecting poor guy at the county fair Hillary would glad hand,or their supposed friends like Vince Foster or Webb Hubbell who have been left in their ruinous wake,they all should know by now that anyone is expendable in the eyes of the Clintons.In Mena,that someone,was me.
I am glad I kept a lot of the letters and day books of that era,especially the essay draft for the C.I.A that Bill wrote on.I knew there would come a day I would have to give testimony on what happened at Mena airport.I cringed in the late 80's as I watched the Iran Contra hearings and recognized Dan Magruder as being in reality Donald Gregg,who worked for Vice President George Bush as his national security advisor from 1982 to 1989.It also didint surprise me to learn later Gregg was in fact Felix's boss in Vietnam when they both worked for the C.I.A. Even after I left the governors mansion,I would still have close ties to Bill for a while and eventually to Bush as well.It was a most interesting time in my life.
Brown then goes on to state in the book.
In chapter 11 of this book called tHE CLINTON INTIMIDATION MACHINE Brown then goes on to say-as I spoke to the state presidents from around the country I made 3 points.1.that he lied pathologically
2.that our governor hated police officers,3. and most importantly,he was running for president.
as we arrived at our stomping grounds of the governors mansion,we were led to the front door.Bill had his senoir advisor Jim Pledger and his chief of state police Buddy Young there in the living room.why Buddy would be there is a mystery to me since he took no part in the business of the association.This is the same Buddy Young who followed Bill to the white house and was placed in a senior management position as regional director of the federal emergency management administration even though he has never graduated from college-and it shows.
I was tired of the pressure of the constant fighting with a liar who held the power of the governors office in his hands.He also could fire the state police director Tommy Goodwin any day,replacing him with a new director who would surely get rid of me.Clinton started pushing for a criminal investigation of my past management of the Association.
I was one of the first investigaters assigned to the case of Don Henry and Kevin Ives,which had caused a public clamoring for an in depth investigation. Kevin Ives are two boys who Fahmy Malak the state medical examiner appointed by Clinton to investigate thier death on the tracks had determined that the boys were in a deep drug induced sleep due to the marijunana they had been smoking the night of their deaths.This was to prove the most controversial finding in the entire case.I found upon my examination of the file that Malak could not say to any degree of certainty the amount of THC that was in the boys bloodstream at the time of their death.
other medical examiners have been called in and have stated categorically that the boys died of blows received to the head before they were struck by the train.Former congressman Bill Alexander became concerned with what had gone on at the Mena airport.He called for a federal and then a state investigation into the activities several years after i was involved.
I was happy in my job at the state police investigating elected official and public officials.there certainly was plenty of corruption to investigate.after all,we gave America Bill Clinton.
Whne Bill and Hillary left the mansion in Little Rock for the white house,they also brought the assorcment of weirdos and policy wonks which were strikingly similiar to the ones they had taken to the governors mansion in their first term in 1978.I wondered how long it would take for the american people and the press to find out what these people were really all about.Clinton mucked up his attempts to have his cabinet representative of america,what he ended up with,resembled more of the bar scene inthe star wars movie.It was 1977 all over again indeed.
chapter 12.the office of independent council comes calling.
there is no doubt that what Jim Guy Tucker,now a twice convicted federal felon,did to me was wrong,illegal.If this is not a clear cut case of obstruction of justice and witness tampering,I dont know what is.
I would testify to the grand jury in little rock.When you go before a federal grand jury,you go in by yourself.That is unless of course,you are Bill Clinton who got to have David kendall by his side and was to testify by videotape.I knew I had to tell the truth when i testified or I would go to jail for perjury.That is a fundamental concept of the american judicial system,I have believed in for twenty three years.that has changed forever with the advent of the american people and congress seemingly giving Bill Clinton a pass to commit felony perjury.
My family,friends,and I have been the targets of enough abuse at the hands of the Clintonites.Here I was in the middle of english countryside,along with a guy who had obviously been sent by the C.I.A. to get me involved in another operation -and Bill clinton was involved in some way.
CHAPTER 13 congressional inaction.I would meet several members of congress that are conducting investigations into the scandals of the clinton administration.I received a telephone call one day from the office of Congressmen Bob Barr of Georgia.Bob Barr is an interesting man.He obviously has the courage of his convictions in taking on corruption in government.a former federal prosecuter from near Atlanta,he is clearly learned in the law and has a very good idea where he is going
EPILOGUE.where we stand now.
I was there on sentencing day for Jim Guy.He didnt have the guts to look me in the eye.He grinned like nothing was happening,and maybe he knew nothing would.Federal Judge George Howard"the same judge that presided in the Reed vs Young case."listented to the tearful tucker.I was flabbergasted when Judge howard declared that Jim guy would have home detention and would be required to write papers on ethetics in government for delivery in person to high school students around the state.
I forgot to post this last comment from Browns book which is a very important comment that needs to be known.Brown goes on to state-my family has been changed forever as a result of my involvement with the Clintons.My wife and i have had our lives turned upside down.But it is our children who have been most affected in ways that are sometimes hard to quantify.they listen closely even when you guard your conversations,making sure not to mention the names of Bill and Hillary Clinton.But you cant keep the newspapers or magazines out of their hands.My oldest son, Benjamin,who is eleven years old,was looking through the march 23rd,1998 issue of TIME magazine when he ran across my photograph in an article about the clintons.I took the issue from him but hours later I noticed he was not playing in the yard.I found him in the bedroom with the door closed.He had read every word of the article.
Benjamin is a smart little boy who takes in everything.An avid reader,I have tried to explain to him in ways that an eleven year old would understand why his daddy all of a sudden didnt work at the state police anymore,why there were politicians who werent accountable for their actions.He knows things have been very tight with us,and he realizes it had its genesis in the problems with Bill Clinton.I have never made one adverse comment about Bill or Hillary in front of him.I want him to respect the office,if not the man,but as he gets older it is becoming increasingly hard to do so.
as "I" said earlier on this page in one of the above posts, as we all know,there is one different law for politicians than there is for citizens and presidents can get away with anything no matter how horrible the crime is.Thats what L.D. BROWN'S son Ben is finding out as he gets older.Like Brown says in the book,he is now having to explain to his son WHY politicians are not held accountable for their actions.something clinton and bush and presidents are obviously immune to.
one final thing said from L.D. BROWNS book CROSSFIRE witness in the clinton investigation before I post Browns comments listed at the end of the book where he talks about the pics taken with him and the Bushwackers.He talks about one of the presidential condidates who ran for president this year-Mike Huckabee.Good information in here on how corrupted HE is.Here it is that Brown goes on to say-
Jim Guy Tucker,now a convicted felon and ex-arkansas governor.was succeded by the Republican Lieutenant Governor Mike Huckabee,a baptist preacher who had been elected to the post after making a name for himself in a run for the united states senate post held by Dale Bumpers.Mike is a nice guy who now has himself embroiled in the throes of an ethics investigation of his own in arkansas.-remember this book was written in 1999.He has been widely criticised for keeping om many democrat appointees on boards and commissions.
One time,during the time Governor Jim Guy Tucker was under investigation,but before he was actually indicted,I had occassion to meet with Bob Tyrell,editor of the american spectator,in Little Rock.I had scheduled a meeting with Huckabee to talk of my situation with the state police,hoping that the republican would help me when he assumed the office of governor when and if Tucker was removed after a possible conviction.
Bob and I met with Huckabee alone in his office at the state capitol.Mike was all but a declared candidate for the united states senate as he was convinced Tucker would remain in office for an indefinite period of time.I told the lieutenant governor i strongly believed Tucker would be indicted and convicted soon enough.Mike leaned forward in his chair and was clearly interested in what I had to say.I was right,of course,and the point of the meeting was to let him know of the upcoming indictment.I needed help when he walked into the governors office just as Tucker had assumed the post after Clinton was elected president.
Bob Tyrell and Huckabee made conversations about the politics of arkansas,a topic Bob is well familiar with and has written so eloquently about since Bills ascension to the presidency.But Mike Huckabee was not to help me one bit when my prophecy proved true.Huckabee has even kept some of the same people from the state police as the governors security force.People who worked for Clinton and tucker and who were slandering me for years.
Huckabee has been a major dissapointment to many people who saw him as a breath of fresh air in the corrupt political climate that is Arkansas.Unfortunately the air remains polluted as Huckabee fought the state ethics commission on charges filed against him regarding disclosure of the sources of money paid to him by entities from outside government.I am about to agree with what many journalists have observed in arkansas over the past few years.There must be something in the air down there.
NOW TO THE PICS AT THE END OF THE BOOK.
PIC OF CLINTON AND L.D. BROWN
Bill and I had a stormy relationship at the state capitol as this photo clearly shows.Bill had just lied to me about a pay raise bill in the legislature.
we put on a good face for the cameras when it was mutually beneficial.This bill signing ceremony for legislation sponsored by state representative Bobby Tullis,left,was a good example.
ANOTHER PHOTO OF CLINTON AND BROWN.
BILL and I would meet occassionally in his state capitol office concerning legislation.Even though he and I had split socially,we both knew that we had to get along in public.
PHOTO OF BIIL,HILLARY,AND BROWN.
I accompanied Bill and Hillary on their inaugeral day activities only days after first meeting them at the governor's mansion.
PHOTO OF L.D. BROWN AND MARVIN BUSH-Bushs son together in book.
Marvin Bush,George and Barbara's son,came to Little Rock during the 1988 campaine.Even though Bill was Michael Dukakis's co chairman.I was allowed to escort the Bush siblings and others around the state.
PHOTO IN BOOK OF BROWN AND BUCKY BUSH-GEORGE SR'S BROTHER,TOGETHER.
Even George Bush's brother Bucky came down from missouri to campaine.
PHOTO OF BROWN AND BARBARA BUSH TOGETHER.
Years before when I worked for Frank and Gay White,the previous republican governor and first lady of arkansas,I had contact with the Bush family.Barbara Bush was a pleasure to meet.
PHOTO OF BROWN AND GEORGE JR TOGETHER.
'George Junior' as we called George Bush's eldest son,George W Bush,is now the governor of texas.Considered a likely presidential candidate in the year 2000.George is a more folksy version of his father.
PHOTO OF GEORGE BUSH SR AND BROWN TOGETHER.
George Bush made several trips to arkansas during the 1988 campaine.To this day I have yet to understand the relationship between Bush and Clinton.-as i have said many many time son thsi thread,the evidence is overwhelming from these posts that there is a bush/clinton connection betwen the two that dates back to clintons days of arkansas.its already been proven countless of times on this thread that they were smuggling in drugs into arkansas to gether through the CIA.people who deny this now are obviously in denial and afraid of the truth.
PHOTO OF BROWN AND NEIL BUSH-GEORGES SON,TOGETHER.
Neil Bush,Georges son who was implicated in the silverado savings and loan scandal,was the most personable of the Bush siblings.
PHOTO OF BROWN AND AND STROM THURMOND TOGETHER.
This photo,taken on jack stephens jet,captures one of the most enjoyable moments of the 1988 presidential campaine.Senator Strom Thurmond of south carolina was a joy to meet.then a still-spry 85 years old,he could still bring a crowd to its feet while stumping for Bush.-as I pointed out earlier on the thread through facts,Thurmond like Bush,is also buddies with Clinton.
PHOTO OF BROWN AT ARKANSAS POLICE CONVENTION SPEAKING.
as president of the state troopers association in arkansas and vice chairman of the national troopers union,I had a platform to be an advocate for issue in law enforcement.Bill had always despised the police,indeed anyone in uniform.we would battle constantly over pay and benefit legislation at the state and national level.
PHOTO OF BROWN,HIS BROTHER,AND CRIME PARTNER TOGETHER.
My brother Dwayne Brown,left,and my white collar crime partner Danny Harkins,would be witness to many of the incidents recounted in this book.Life in arkansas will never quite be the same for them due to their friendships with me.
Justin Thorton,my attorney in washington DC,guided me through the maze of investigations conducted by the office of independent counsel and congress.
PHOTO OF BROWN AND NANCY REAGAN TOGETHER.
many times I've wondered just how miserable I would be if I had stayed on with the Clintons.I worked "far right" with the presidnetial protection detail many times ,such as this time when Nancy Reagan was in Little Rock.Here she is greeted by Governor and Mrs frank white at the Little Rock Airport.
Well this is everything I have to post from L.D. BROWNS book CROSSFIRE.witness in the clinton investigation.as you can see,the evidence is overwhelming that clinton and bush have had a long standing FREINDLY relationship dating back to his days of arkansas.
wont be posting anything for a while on CLINTON,the latest posts I have posted were all from BROWNS book that i had been wanting to post for quite some time about the friendshio of clinton and Bush that dates back to the days of when clinton was in arkansas.if people here NOW say there is no friendly relationship between the two like there was with nixon and johnson,then those people are clearly living in denial on this issue. 🙄
BOTH TERRY REED from rearlier in this thread documented it as Brown does in his book which I just got done quoting important facts from the book of how clinton and bush had a cozy and friendly relationship dating back to his days as governor of arkansas.here is a great artical I came across when I typed in MENA ARKANSAS,CLINTON AND BUSH.titled -THE MENA ARKANSAS REAGAN,BUSH,CLINTON,DRUG CONNECTION
HERE IS THE LINK.
http://www.dldewey.com/columns/menaf.htm
like this columist says and like I have said so many countless number of times before,BOTH parites are corrupt and theres no difference between the two.anyone who STILL thinks the democrats are any better of a party than the republicans is a fool. 🙄
Originally posted by Quiero MotaLike what? Bomb Afghanistan? Then you would've said "He shouldn't have done all that stuff on bin Laden." In fact, a lot of people in congress and the government said he was obcessed with Bin Laden.
Not to be a broken record, but he should've done more to stop bin Laden.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Not to be a broken record, but he should've done more to stop bin Laden.
yeah you ain't kidding,that's the understatement of the year.Matter of fact there is this book written by someone that served under his administration detailing how many people in his administration resigned because they were so disgusted with so many of his policies.one of them being how he looked the other way and showed no interest in going after bin laden.Matter of fact it was brodcast all over the mainstream news back then of some high ranking official in the military saying they knew where bin laden was and he was told by clinton to not go after him.To just leave him alone.After that telecast,it was never broadcast again.that's why its very important to be there the first time something like that is said in mainstream media I have learned because if its something like that they don't want you to hear,you'll never hear them broadcast it again and it will disappear forever.
btw,you said not to sound like a broke record.did you like read through backwards through this thread instead of starting from the beginning or something? 😕 😄 I ask because you had to have,no way could you have started from the beginning of this thread and finished the whole thing in one day.cause that stuff documenting clinton not going after ben laden was towards the end of this thread. 😱 😕 😕
Re: **** clinton
Originally posted by mosesgunner
Clinton was one of the worst presidents we've had. Bush isn't any better. HOW ABOUT SOME ONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO TAKE RESPONSABILTY
of all the posters that have on to contribute, this guy so much hit the nail right on the head with the truth about clinton in his first sentence here.clinton was a horrible president and bush wasnt any better. Ron Paul is our ONLY hope to change things.Unlike clinton and bush,Paul is not a member of the evil CFR which is why we wont see him get elected.which is sad because he has the same visions kennedy had.a good president who cared about the people-which is why the CIA killed him.
Pretty interesting stuff...
Clinton's been losing to Obama recently, but now she's beginning to win a lot more often, almost every primary election...
It's like a freakin' Hulk Hogan wrestling match! Where she "comes back from defeat" to win the Democratic Nomination, and uses that "momentum" to reach the White House... I'm trying to imagine the Elite's reaction when we buy into that... Something along the lines of 😆 Honestly, this whole race is so predictable and saddening...
We were screwed either way, but now we have to get ready for 8 more years of the Dynasty 🙁 ...
Anyway, pretty interesting stuff, Mr Parker...
Originally posted by Bat DudeObama has had more delegates in every month. (He also had more on Super Tuesday and March 4th. Obama is going to win.
Pretty interesting stuff...Clinton's been losing to Obama recently, but now she's beginning to win a lot more often, almost every primary election...
It's like a freakin' Hulk Hogan wrestling match! Where she "comes back from defeat" to win the Democratic Nomination, and uses that "momentum" to reach the White House... I'm trying to imagine the Elite's reaction when we buy into that... Something along the lines of 😆 Honestly, this whole race is so predictable and saddening...
We were screwed either way, but now we have to get ready for 8 more years of the Dynasty 🙁 ...
Anyway, pretty interesting stuff, Mr Parker...
Originally posted by Bat Dude
Pretty interesting stuff...Clinton's been losing to Obama recently, but now she's beginning to win a lot more often, almost every primary election...
It's like a freakin' Hulk Hogan wrestling match! Where she "comes back from defeat" to win the Democratic Nomination, and uses that "momentum" to reach the White House... I'm trying to imagine the Elite's reaction when we buy into that... Something along the lines of 😆 Honestly, this whole race is so predictable and saddening...
We were screwed either way, but now we have to get ready for 8 more years of the Dynasty 🙁 ...
Anyway, pretty interesting stuff, Mr Parker...
Thanks.glad you liked it. 🙂 yeah it seems like they have it all planned out for her to get elected to continue that dynasty.But I wouldnt be surprised if Obama got elected president and Mrs clinton vice president since clinton doesnt have enough delegates with Mrs Clinton controlling the world events and being in charge with Obama taking orders from her.Kinda like how Bush was running the country as vice president under Reagan and Reagan was just there for decoration. anyways,hope it doesnt pan out that way.they never give us a choice on good candidates to choose from so were screwed either way anyways.I think Clinton because of Mr clintons baggage carried over from his corrupted administration he ran might keep her from getting elected though. Ron Paul is our only hope and the mainstream media is going to extremes to black him out from the spotlight not giving him ANY media coverage at all.They do not want him in there which is why he wont get elected.
He has been on the independent ticket for most of us his years after initially being a republican but switched to independent when he found out that theres no difference at all between the republican and democrat party-that they sleep in bed toegther with the same world agenda. some people call them-the demopublicans and the republicrats since theres no difference between the two parties. He only went back to the republican party and is running on the republican ticket because he realises that the independent never gets elected. but yeah were screwed either way if its Clinton,Mccain or Obama.all 3 of them are members of the evil CFR organization.They never give us a choice to choose from..Ron Paul is the only one that isnt.He is the only one that represents the people instead of government business and government corporations so yeah like you said,the whole race is predictable and saddening.
They always leave us with hoping that the LESSER evil of the candidates gets elected.they never leave us with a choice to choose from.Obama is the lesser evil of the three from what is known about him so hopefully he is the one that they have decided to get elected.were still screwed though either way.He is the lesser evil of the 3 but like i said,he's not ufor us,he's only for big businesses and big corporations.You dont become elected unless your a member of the CFR which he became one about a year ago and of course as everyone knows,the CFR is an evil organization that considers people who are not rich,powerful and corrupt,the enemy of the world.
thats why Ron Paul is not a member of that group because he knows all about their evil doings and doesnt want to have anything to do with them which is why it would be great if he somehow got elected.
Originally posted by J-Beowulf
And he also made America look weak as hell to the rest of the world. Multiple terrorist attacks on U.S. vessels and personnel, and he sat on his ass and did nothing.Terrorism is tough as hell... you're basically damned if you sit by and watch it happen, and damned if you retaliate, since there's no principle target.
Interesting that you say this. Exactly what is YOUR definition of terrorism? As far as I know there will always be terrorism. an example would be the KKK or Neo Nazis... Maybe america should focus on its own problems instead of bullying other countries... When you say terrorism what and who are you exactly directing it towards? Iraq? Al queda? who? I'm not saying president bill clinton was exactly the best president. I will say in his defense, he did not make the nation look weak. Nor did he just sit on his ass and did nothing. 🙂