Spider-Man 3 Director's Cut Petition

Started by Praylu2 pages

Spider-Man 3 Director's Cut Petition

Since it's become obvious that an ample amount of scenes were deleted or reduced from the released version of SM3 including subplots, we've opened up a new petition for a director's cut which I think everyone here should sign and spread word of if possible.

Given some of the negative responses (personally I love it) the studio may want to do some spin coverage plus there seems to be more footage missing this time around than in the past. Peter Jackson has done it, lets hope Sam does as well. The folks behind the petition for a Donner cut of Superman II were successful in their efforts and considering there is larger fan base with Spider-Man, we just may have a chance as well.

I'll admit the success rate for fan petitions are few in number and far in between but look at it this way, we have nothing to lose and everything to gain. We can always be a positive factor in the decision process.

Here's the link: http://www.petitiononline.com/GregA/petition.html

this is doomed to failed, sony is happy ($$$$$$$) with the movie,they cant care less about us,i think honestly there was not subplot ever shot this movie just suck,acept it.

I suggest you read each page of the thread in this link before you assume anything. And yes, there were indeed deleted subplots.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271711

Read this as well: http://spiderman.ugo.com/?cur=sand-man-tragedy

hmmm i remember the mirror scene,and seeing chuch with a spike ball shot, but i though it was only for promos and the colectible stick album.
im signing the petition now,but i doubt we will have anything in less then 2 years,becouse for the looks those scenes were never finished,or even shot.
but be warned the script was done while they were filming so many of those scene may had not fited into the final story and were deleted.

I'm led to believe most of them were shot (and in the written script) and Thomas Haden Church even confirms a portion of them during the brief interview in the link.

"I think when they were testing the movie it became just too tragic, and it started to, I think, imbalance the other stories. It's a little bit of a drag because Theresa [Russell, who plays Marko's wife] was terrific and Pearla was terrific, but I think they just felt like, as I said, that early emotional anchoring is there, and maybe it's better that it becomes kind of nebulous after that. Pearla captured this quality and Theresa captured this quality that was kind of at once tragic but hopeful. And I think that they really felt like less is more, you just needed a little bit of that to set the stage and then you just turn the ferocity of Flint Marko and Sandman loose."

Anyway, there were many other scenes both known and unkown that were cut as well. It's been said the studio requested that Raimi reduce the runtime of SM3 which makes sense considering the same happened with Superman Returns. Earlier reports had the film at 156 mins. and some ticket sites still have this number listed.

wow the more i read that thread, the more pissed at this movie i am.

I think the movie will be longer on dvd. Its always 2 versions, either the Rated version and Unrated version. Hopefully an unrated we get to see Black Suit Spiderman act very evil and use some violence. You never know what they do in moveis and what they cut out could be what the movies misses for the fans.

There is absolutely no need to sign some petition. Sam Raimi will undoubtedly come out with an extended cut or director's cut when Spidey 3 is released on DVD.

We don't actually know that and there has been aboslutely no word from Raimi, Sony, or anyone involved with the Spider-Man 3 film who has said anything regarding an extended/director's cut. On top of that, it's not entirely up to Raimi since the studio has the final word on matters of this nature but encouraging them to take part in a new cut is a good step towards making it a reality. The more support and fan requests the better, and as I said earlier we have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Thx to those who have signed the petition thus far as well.

I was number 80 to sign...

There will not be any news regarding an extended cut or directors cut until Sony announces the DVD release date.

...and until then we can't be sure what they have in mind, neither can we assume their intentions regarding a new cut.

Originally posted by Menetnashté
I was number 80 to sign...

Thanks, we've reached just over a hundred now.

Over 200 signatures and counting!

Lets keep it rolling...

Here is a small list of some scenes that were possibly cut:

- At the play, Peter tries to catch up to Harry, but there are people in his way. Since nobody’s looking, he hops up, bounces off the wall and continues. Nobody notices. Then, when he’s trying to talk to Harry and explain his side of the story, Harry almost considers it. Then Harry looks into the reflection of the car window and sees his father, telling him not to.

- Once back at the mansion, Harry’s butler insists he has some milk to help sleep. Harry freaks out and smacks the milk out of the butler’s hand, shattering the glass across the floor. Harry buries his head into his hands for a moment and looks up, to find his butler and the mess gone. Either the butler cleaned it up fast, or Harry’s going completely mental. In Harry’s mind, Norman walks into the room and they discuss the whole Goblin thing. Harry tries to defend Peter and points out all the horrible things Norman did to people, like the guys he murdered. Norman spins the argument to his advantage and keeps Harry on his side, ending the scene with a hug.

- The Sandman origin sequence is a lot more detailed, given enough padding to make it less random. The facility gets two extra scenes. One is before Flint breaks in, which has them explain what their experiment is and how important it is that they get it done that night. I can’t remember if it’s mentioned in dialogue or narration, but it ties in with the facility Green Goblin attacked early on in the first movie. The other scene is the aftermath, where the police explain to one of the scientists that Flint was snooping around. Despite the scent of the dogs, the police find no sign of Flint in the pit. The horrified and overwhelmed scientist keeps it to himself, but discusses with another scientist that if a human being had fallen into the pit during the experiment, he would have indeed died.

While some of Gwen’s modeling stuff had more dialogue, there was a rather funny scene as she’s hanging on by the phone receiver. Right as she grabbed the phone, she had received a call.

“Hello! Hello?!”

“You’ve got the rockin’ sound of WKRQ! If you can name our last two ‘Two for Tuesday’ songs, you could be our grand-prize winner!”

“Help! I can’t hold on!”

“Right you are! Help and I Can’t Hold On! Pack your bags, ‘cause you’re going on a trip!”

There’s also more stuff with Eddie Brock here. When he tells Captain Stacy that he’s dating his daughter, Stacy reacts with, “Huh. She’s never mentioned you.”

Once Spider-Man saves Gwen, he faces the malfunctioning crane, trying to figure out how he’s going to stop it. Suddenly, all the power in the block goes out and the situation is finally under control.

After swinging away from Eddie Brock, Spider-Man stands on top a building, looks at his stomach and says, “Chunky?”

- After getting fired and while feeling the envy of Spider-Man’s success, MJ is confronted by a stranger who asks if she’s famous, as she looks familiar. MJ just kind of dismisses him.

- Some of the Eddie/Jameson dialogue got cut, including a great exchange.

“What’s that smell?”

“Brock, sir.”

“What kind of cologne is ‘Brock’?”

“No, sir. My name is Brock.”

“Why are you named after a cologne?”

Eddie kisses up to Jameson and when asked how much he wants his photos for, he allows Jameson to give him what he considers fair. Hence the $50 at the end of the scene, which apparently is far lower than what Eddie was comfortable with.

- At the Spider-Man appreciation ceremony, Peter runs into a little boy with toy web-shooters. After getting sprayed on, Peter shoots a little webbing on the kid’s shoe as the boy’s walking away. The kid sees the webbing, turns around and points to his mother that he just met Spider-Man. The mother sees some guy in a ****py suit nearby and figures that’s what he was talking about.

- The symbiote has more of a presence throughout the story, even if subtle. At one point, MJ cleans the black goop off of Peter’s shoe and tosses it out. The symbiote sneaks into the closet and at times, Peter would swear he saw the shadows move.

- There’s a scene where Sandman sneaks into the home of a scientist he had been writing to from prison. The scientist has been doing research on whatever disease Penny Marko has and Flint’s been trying to raise enough money for him to cure it. The guy tries to make it clear how money alone won’t promise a cure, but Sandman intimidates him into shutting up.

- The first time Peter removes the black costume, it sticks to his skin, but he does get it off without too much effort. Later points of the story show that he has no problem removing it because the symbiote knows Peter will be back. The scene of Peter looking at the mirror with the black costume underneath briefly includes him seeing a lashing tongue in the reflection.

- After the Symbiote Peter vs. Harry fight, Harry gets up and sees his face in a reflection. As Peter leaves, he hears the scream and says, “He deserved worse.”

- A hilarious Jameson scene is cut, which gives resolution to both the stress bit and Ted Raimi’s idiotic marketing project.

- Following up on his firing, Eddie goes to see Gwen to ask her out. Gwen wants nothing to do with him and explains that they’ve only gone on one date, not counting the time they bumped into each other at a coffee place. Gwen admits that they did kiss, but is confused when Eddie insists she told him that she loves him. Captain Stacy threatens to arrest Eddie and forces him off the premises. Eddie tries to make it look like he’s optimistic as he waves to the Stacys and jokingly skips away. Captain Stacy tells his daughter that she needs to be careful with how friendly she is towards some people.

- Eddie’s speech in the church is a lot longer, showing that he holds absolutely no responsibility for his own actions.

“Eddie Brock, sir. I’ve been wronged, and the woman I worship will have none of me. I don’t qualify as the perfect boyfriend, but… who does? I ask you, why do I have to suffer for everyone else’s imperfections? Why can’t I ever have what I want? What about me? What about Eddie? I try to do what’s right. I follow your rules. I obey the ‘thou shalt nots.’ I’m a decent person. I’m a decent person! So I come to you today, humbled, humiliated, to ask of you but one thing. I want you to kill Peter Parker.”

- The scene of Venom aligning himself with the Sandman is very different. Sandman takes the form of a rather large sandcastle in a park, just as his ex-wife and daughter come by. Penny plays with the sandcastle briefly. When Penny and her mother aren’t looking for a moment, the sandcastle disappears. Venom talks to Sandman from the shadows, beneath a tree. He brings up Sandman’s family as conversation, not as a threat, but as a way to illustrate how bitter he is at what he feels Parker’s taken from him.

- Upon jumping on the taxi, Spider-Man’s first reaction to Mary Jane is to apologize for hitting her. She kind of laughs, considering how unimportant it is at the moment.

- As the news anchor explains that this may be the end of Spider-Man, we look back at the Osborn residence with the TV on. Zooming out, we see that the room is empty and I think the window is open.

- Harry goes up against Venom one-on-one for a round, not counting the impaling scene.

- Sandman is pulled out of the fight by his daughter Penny. She convinces him that there is no way to cure what she has, and therefore, there’s no reason to fight Spider-Man anymore. Sandman explains his role in the Ben murder, Peter forgives him and Sandman sneaks off to be with his family.

- The final scene of Peter dancing with Mary Jane is followed by a shot of Spider-Man swinging through New York while carrying MJ.

I don't like the idea of Director's Cuts unless the director really thinks the cut that went to theaters wasn't the film they were wanting to make.

I would love to see those scenes...they sound so cool

Originally posted by Ytse
I don't like the idea of Director's Cuts unless the director really thinks the cut that went to theaters wasn't the film they were wanting to make.

You'd be surprised how many films are cut down...not because the director wants to but because the studio fears the audience may not like watching a 3 hour film. Remember Kingdom of Heaven, Superman Returns, etc.?

Originally posted by Praylu
You'd be surprised how many films are cut down...not because the director wants to but because the studio fears the audience may not like watching a 3 hour film. Remember Kingdom of Heaven, Superman Returns, etc.?

No, I'm not surprised. But I think a lot of the "director's cuts" that are released are just to soak up more money. But of course that doesn't negate any enjoyment people may get out of watching them.

Originally posted by Ytse
No, I'm not surprised. But I think a lot of the "director's cuts" that are released are just to soak up more money. But of course that doesn't negate any enjoyment people may get out of watching them.

That's true, but that doesn't negate the fact that many times this is not the reason these films are spliced to begin with. The original film in my views seems to have been closer to 3 hrs. in length and I don't believe Raimi intended to reduce it this heavily. Studio pressure can be a doozy...