Originally posted by kiddo44
of course Dooku could hang with Sidious, when Lucas said this he was talking specifically about why Agen,Kit and Tiin got cut down so fast, and did not include Dooku b/c he was already dead.
DS, didn't Shaak Ti and Sora duel and Sora lose?
If Dooku beat Mace as a Jedi, and then became "an even greater Sith," what is to stop him from doing it again?
I see Mace defeat Sora very quickly
So the Maul who had his saber cut in half and kicked by padawan Kenobi, and i know he was tired, but still as a padawan he was a very close match for him clearly, and yet all those years later as a jedi master, Kenobi got thrown like a battledroid by Dooku while he was kicking Anakin into the wall at the same time, yeah Dooku and Maul is a real close one.
Kenobi only lost to Dooku so badly because:
1. Kenobi was using offense, he is a master of defense, not offense, in ROTS, so Dooku got an easy opportunity to use the Force on him.
2. Maul is a vicious fighting machine, he will be constantly on Dooku and will never let up, never give him an opportunity to use the Force on him, very much the same way that ROTS Anakin did during his final confrontation with Dooku.
Not saying Maul and Dooku would be close, but your logic, for lack of a better term, sucks.
No, he mentions this in the ESB AC, when Mace is dead, too, yet he still metions Mace.No, he only mentions Mace and Yoda in the ROTS Making of book on that specific fight, on the ESB commentary he is only talking about Anakin and Luke
"At this point, Vader’s plan really, now that he knows he’s his son, is to convince him to come with him. Join the Dark Side and together they’re going to overthrow the Emperor, which is the thematic devices used through the whole movies in terms of the Sith, which is Sith Lords are usually no more than two because if there are three, then two of them will gang up on one to try to become the dominate Sith. Anakin would have been able to do it if he hadn’t been debilitated and now he’s half machine and half man, so he’s lost a lot of the power of the Force, and he’s lost a lot of his ability to be more powerful then the Emperor. But Luke hasn’t. Luke is Vader’s hope. His motives at this point are purely evil. He simply wants to continue on what he was doing before which is get rid of the Emperor and make himself Emperor. He only sees his son as a mechanism for the ambition. His mad lust of power." Lucas on the ESB commentary
Nope, never.i know wookipedia is alot of crap sometimes, and i had never heard of it, but on there under Sora it says Shaak Ti beat him.
2. Maul is a vicious fighting machine, he will be constantly on Dooku and will never let up, never give him an opportunity to use the Force on him, very much the same way that ROTS Anakin did during his final confrontation with Dooku.No thats not a good comparision, b/c ROTS Anakin is better than Maul in everyway possible, Dooku could more than handle's Maul powers. He hung with Yoda, when he was very tired.
No, he only mentions Mace and Yoda in the ROTS Making of book on that specific fight, on the ESB commentary he is only talking about Anakin and Luke
which is Sith Lords are usually no more than two because if there are three, then two of them will gang up on one to try to become the dominate Sith. Anakin would have been able to do it if he hadn’t been debilitated and now he’s half machine and half man, so he’s lost a lot of the power of the Force, and he’s lost a lot of his ability to be more powerful then the Emperor.
i know wookipedia is alot of crap sometimes, and i had never heard of it, but on there under Sora it says Shaak Ti beat him.
As you see, I've read all the appearances that Sora is in, and this never happened unless an appearance is missing from the list. It also says nothing of the encounter in Shaak's page.
No thats not a good comparision, b/c ROTS Anakin is better than Maul in everyway possible, Dooku could more than handle's Maul powers. He hung with Yoda, when he was very tired.
Edit: The link doesn't seem to be workong, just go to Sora Bulq's wookieepedia discussion page.
'Very Tired'? Proof? And Maul wouldn't be as strong as Anakin, but his fighting style, not letting Dooku let the Force, would be similar to the way that Anakin fought Dooku.