Richard Dawkins interviews the Bishop of Oxford

Started by Alliance3 pages

I don't have time to spend a hour watching, but since I don't like Dawkins, I'm probably going to have a difficult time agreeing with either side.

Originally posted by Ytse
Yes, yes, you say that quite a lot. Is that the most substantive thing you can say on the issue?

You think not? Wild speculation isn't a very convincing form of argument.

No, probably not, but I don't think I need to write more. I think that Theology is stupid and it's insane that people can get degrees in it and that alot universities even teach it.

I was just stating my opinion and asking for yours. To see if you believe that in todays world, with all that is known that wasn't in the time of Leibniz or Descartes, they would be as Religious as they were then.

Originally posted by Boris I was just stating my opinion and asking for yours. To see if you believe that in todays world, with all that is known that wasn't in the time of Leibniz or Descartes, they would be as Religious as they were then.

Well, to be honest I don't think it's possible to speculate on fictional alternate realities with any degree of accuracy.

Right... but you can have an opinion on it? Maybe take a guess?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Think about it, if more than one person has the same views, without any connections between eachother, it's logical to think their views are correct.
I'll comment just to keep you somewhat assumed/happy... This part made me laugh because it could apply to everyone, religious or not.

Originally posted by Alliance
I don't have time to spend a hour watching, but since I don't like Dawkins, I'm probably going to have a difficult time agreeing with either side.

I doubt that.

Originally posted by Boris
Right... but you can have an opinion on it? Maybe take a guess?

Sorry, man. My only opinion is that it's a waste of time to form one on that.

🙂

So then you can have no opinon on anything?

Originally posted by Alliance
So then you can have no opinon on anything?

Are you just messing with me or something?

http://www.cbc.ca/thehour/video.php?id=1563

honestly

people on this forum are much more fanatical than Mr. Dawkins is.

The only problem Dawkins has is that he reads holy texts in the same absolutist way that radicals do. A lot of atheists who like to attack religion do. Resa Aslan rocks 🙂

A pathetic attempt by Dawkins to portray himself as not radically anti-Christian.

Originally posted by FeceMan
A pathetic attempt by Dawkins to portray himself as not radically anti-Christian.

Or...he maybe just isn't.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I'll comment just to keep you somewhat assumed/happy... This part made me laugh because it could apply to everyone, religious or not.
Actually no. People who go by the Bible believe what the Bible says. How do Atheists come to the conclusion religion is bad? They come to that conclusion by themselves. This is most likely becuase it's true.

I watched about 15 minutes of it, really interesting so far. Going to watch the rest tomorrow.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Actually no. People who go by the Bible believe what the Bible says. How do Atheists come to the conclusion religion is bad? They come to that conclusion by themselves. This is most likely becuase it's true.
And Christian can come to the conclusion that Jesus is the son of God, therefore it must be true? Religions are universal and many developed independently. Millions of people believe that there must be a creator, therefore they are all correct? Maybe, maybe not, the logic is flawed.

Originally posted by Nellinator
And Christian can come to the conclusion that Jesus is the son of God, therefore it must be true? Religions are universal and many developed independently. Millions of people believe that there must be a creator, therefore they are all correct? Maybe, maybe not, the logic is flawed.
Christians thought Jesus is the son of God because the Bible said so, because the Priests said so. Who told Atheists religion is bad and there is no god? They came to that conclusion themself. Most of them.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Christians thought Jesus is the son of God because the Bible said so, because the Priests said so. Who told Atheists religion is bad and there is no god? They came to that conclusion themself. Most of them.

How is it valid to compare worldviews like that? Christianity is a historical religion. There are plenty of aspects about it that you couldn't know without reading the holy texts or whatever. Atheism merely requires that one not believe in any god(s).

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Can you translate the ellipsis please?

Originally posted by Ytse
There are plenty of aspects about it that you couldn't know without reading the holy texts or whatever.

And what makes these texts 'holy'? They're wrote by man, for man. Nothing holy about them.