Wolverine vs Deathstroke and Midnighter

Originally posted by masterbruce
I'm gonna have to disagree with you. Logan has never been shown to far outpace other streetlevelers...ie Cap, Daredevil, etc.

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Originally posted by masterbruce
Now he has to fight 2 guys who are super smart and can work as a team really well. I just don't see Logan pulling it off.

Doesn't really matter how smart they are, that accounts for very little in a fight where the other guy isn't functionally retarded and can't be tricked in beating himself.

We have three primarily melee combatants. One of them can take much more damage then the other two and the damage he dishes out is potentially fatal. Wolverine has the advantage in this fight. Deathstroke has some ranged options but none of them are powerful enough to drop Wolverine, and with a partner that is pure melee he really can't use his ranged attacks effectively with out taking out Midnighter.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I agree Logan is superior to either individually, but the two as a team is too much. Has Logan ever taken on a double team of very competent foes?

He has fought Roughouse and Bloodscream at the same time, he has fought Bloodscream and Vermin at the same time, he has fought Lady Deathstrike and Omega Red at the same time(with out his healing factor), and he has fought Lady Deathstrike and Sabretooth at the same time.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Why wouldn't they take each other seriously? I think right off the bat, they would have each other's respect.

Midnighter would beat Wolvie all by himself.

stronger, faster, better fighter, Midnighter also has a healing factor, superhuman stanima, superhuman stealth skills, and a killer attitude, plus all the weapond one could ever want.

Midnighter doors Wolverine for the win. 😖hifty:.

Originally posted by complexbrother
Midnighter would beat Wolvie all by himself.

stronger, faster, better fighter, Midnighter also has a healing factor, superhuman stanima, superhuman stealth skills, and a killer attitude, plus all the weapond one could ever want.

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Midnighter has, what, three speed feats? Two them being arrow catching feats... and one where he speed blitz some fodder. Nothing there that says "I'm faster then Wolverine!"... and I'm not sure if he has any strength feats other then ripping off limbs. He isn't stronger then Wolverine, he isn't faster then Wolverine, he isn't a better fighter then Wolverine and in comparison to Wolverine his healing factor and durability are so tame its an embarrassment. How does he beat Wolverine? By bonking him on the head with his club? I'm sure that will be very effective... Look out Wolverine he has swords too! lol

Originally posted by complexbrother
Midnighter would beat Wolvie all by himself.

stronger, faster, better fighter, Midnighter also has a healing factor, superhuman stanima, superhuman stealth skills, and a killer attitude, plus all the weapond one could ever want.

Originally posted by capt it up
stronger yes...........faster hell no...................did you honestly just say better figher............all the other abilities you mention logan superior at.

Midnighter's stronger, faster, a better fighter. He could solo this. 😖hifty:.

Anyways DS and MN are basically the same animal just one has cybernetic enhancements the other has gentic enhancements. And besides weaponary they are errily similar in how they fight.

Both have insane reactions both can see battle unfold in their heads a million different ways.

Besides I don't think you quite understand how this fight is going to go.

Here it si MN attack Wolverien head on and DS sneaks up from behind and blasts his muscles therefore rendering Wolverine immobile long enough for them to hold him down. Each one is is just strong if not stronger than Wolverine so it isn't like it will be hard.

And as for reaction speed this isn't even a contest MN and DS
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then Wolverine in reaction speed
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Originally posted by Newjak
Anyways DS and MN are basically the same animal just one has cybernetic enhancements the other has gentic enhancements. And besides weaponary they are errily similar in how they fight.

Both have insane reactions both can see battle unfold in their heads a million different ways.

Besides I don't think you quite understand how this fight is going to go.

Here it si MN attack Wolverien head on and DS sneaks up from behind and blasts his muscles therefore rendering Wolverine immobile long enough for them to hold him down. Each one is is just strong if not stronger than Wolverine so it isn't like it will be hard.

And as for reaction speed this isn't even a contest MN and DS
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
then Wolverine in reaction speed
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For your strategy to work, Deathstroke needs to successfully flank Wolverine with out him noticing, and Midnighter needs to engage Wolverine in melee combat... with out getting killed. Seriously.... do you have even the slightest clue who Wolverine is? The only way Deathstroke is going to get behind Wolverine to get a clean shot, is if Wolverine lets him so he can move at the last moment, letting Midnighter take the blast. Even assuming that by some miracle Slade manages to hit Wolverine from behind before Wolverine kills Midnighter, neither of these guys are going to be able to forcibly hold down a mildly pissed Wolverine... what do you think will happen when Wolverine goes into a berserk rage? Do honestly believe either of these two can restrain him? The best thing that can happen to them in that situation is a face full of adamantium that caves in the front of their face.

Oh just FYI, since you apparently don't know who Wolverine is, I thought I'd let you know that he has superhuman reaction time. 😉

Originally posted by Newjak

And as for reaction speed this isn't even a contest MN and DS
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
then Wolverine in reaction speed
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please why are there raction speed faster?

also blizt don't try that bullshit DS tagging flash crap becuase flash is not moving full speed and he jobbing...........not to mention the fact DS was stated with 10 tiems normal human reaction speed and then hit flash....so I guess flash only moves 10 times faster then a normal human...........

Deathstroke can't even beat up a wererat... he is a mook. 😈

Originally posted by Estacado
nah

for example logan stamina makes MN look horriable.....unless MN has some how gone with out sleep or food for a month straight...........

Team takes the majority.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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For your strategy to work, Deathstroke needs to successfully flank Wolverine with out him noticing, and Midnighter needs to engage Wolverine in melee combat... with out getting killed. Seriously.... do you have even the slightest clue who Wolverine is? The only way Deathstroke is going to get behind Wolverine to get a clean shot, is if Wolverine lets him so he can move at the last moment, letting Midnighter take the blast. Even assuming that by some miracle Slade manages to hit Wolverine from behind before Wolverine kills Midnighter, neither of these guys are going to be able to forcibly hold down a mildly pissed Wolverine... what do you think will happen when Wolverine goes into a berserk rage? Do honestly believe either of these two can restrain him? The best thing that can happen to them in that situation is a face full of adamantium that caves in the front of their face.

Oh just FYI, since you apparently don't know who Wolverine is, I thought I'd let you know that he has superhuman reaction time. 😉

The fact is that DS and MN take on multiple superpowered people at once. And a lot of those superheros spit on Logan in speed most of them spit on QS in speed. Logan has had good enough reflexes to dodge Hulk and stuff but really he doesn't have nearly the reaction feats these two have.

They would easily out flank Wolverine and easily restrain him because they both are either as strong or stronger than Wolverine and their quicker. No doubts about it.

Wolverine isn't letting anyone do anything he basically has no choice in the matter. They will overpower him they will out fight him and if he goes into Berserker mode that actually makes these guys jobs that much easier in out smarting which they would have done anyways.

The fact is I don't even have to use DS stabbing Flash just look at his first appearance in which he hits Kid Flash or when he recovers from being blitzed by Kid Flash. MN has hung with Apollo.

All guys are a lot faster and alot quicker than Wolverine could ever dream of being.

Wolverine faster the MN?????
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Slade alone would murder Wolverine...jockey

Originally posted by Newjak
If you do not think MN could hang with Logan solo then you are way over playing his abilities. If he was even half as skilled as what you said then Daredevil, Cap America, Silver Samurai would be unable to compete against him. The fact is this isn't true.

Originally posted by Newjak
The fact is that DS and MN take on multiple superpowered people at once.

Originally posted by Newjak
And a lot of those superheros spit on Logan in speed most of them spit on QS in speed. Logan has had good enough reflexes to dodge Hulk and stuff but really he doesn't have nearly the reaction feats these two have.

By the way logan hits speedstirs also if you haven’t realized.

Originally posted by Newjak
They would easily out flank Wolverine and easily restrain him because they both are either as strong or stronger than Wolverine and their quicker. No doubts about it.

Originally posted by Newjak
Wolverine isn't letting anyone do anything he basically has no choice in the matter. They will overpower him they will out fight him and if he goes into Berserker mode that actually makes these guys jobs that much easier in out smarting which they would have done anyways.

Originally posted by Newjak
The fact is I don't even have to use DS stabbing Flash just look at his first appearance in which he hits Kid Flash or when he recovers from being blitzed by Kid Flash. MN has hung with Apollo.

Logan done similar things such as dodging living lighting, defeating herc and so on so who cares.

Originally posted by Estacado
Wolverine faster the MN?????
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Equal in speed?
Nah.