Originally posted by Draco69
The lasso was merely forged by Hephaestus. However it's original form was the Girdle of Gaea. And the Girdle of Gaea was given to Gaea from a higher power. Consider the lasso's importance, it must have been someone better damn powerful. Hestia merely used her powers to channel it's energies more properly. Which is why it appears to be on fire.
Yes . . . but the Celestial host would still be more powerful as a group IMO.
Using thier powers they could certainly break it.
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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No it doesn't.The entirety of the Celestial host could probably beat any pantheon.
Doesn't matter...they're not gods. Is like you asking if SS could lift Thor's hammer from the floor. It can only be done by a god. This is why a thread on Cosmic beings and gods needs to be made. No matter how powerful a celestial being maybe it cannot decrease the power of a god. Much less affect a weapon fashion by a god.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I wonder if Darkseid can do it? hmm
That is a difficult question to answer....however he does have godlike powers.
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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I doesn't need to. It can just crush it.
Here is what I'm talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_entities_%28DC_Comics%29#History
See, in the Marvel Universe Cosmic entities are sometimes regard as gods. Whereas in the DCU it's broken down into realms. Meaning that some readers consider what they call "gods" are actually super advance and highly evolved aliens. Whereas the term "gods" have a more divine meaning in the DCU.
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Originally posted by WrathfulDwarfThe Celestial Host kicked the crap out of the Marvel Skyfathers. They channeled all of their godly energies into the Destroyer armor and armed him with the Odinsword. They punked it and reduced it to slag. The Celestials are by far, some of the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe. They frikkin threw planets at Thanos!
Doesn't matter...they're not gods. Is like you asking if SS could lift Thor's hammer from the floor. It can only be done by a god. This is why a thread on Cosmic beings and gods needs to be made. No matter how powerful a celestial being maybe it cannot decrease the power of a god. Much less affect a weapon fashion by a god.That is a difficult question to answer....however he does have godlike powers.
Silver Surfer could not lift Mjolnir's hammer, but I'm pretty sure Galactus could reduce it to a mere flower like he did to Hercules. Besides, Molecule Man disassembled Mjolnir with ease. But apparently, now you're asserting that MU gods and DCU gods are apples and oranges.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarfI fail to see how the Greek Pantheon in DC is considered anything more special or divine than the other high-tier cosmic beings in DC. If you believe one story, all of those beings came from the same Godwave. All of those beings' histories have been messed around with by Anti-Monitor, Parallax and Alexander Luthor. They don't operate outside the DCU in their own divine plane. They're as susceptible as any high-tier cosmic being.
Here is what I'm talking about:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_entities_%28DC_Comics%29#History
See, in the Marvel Universe Cosmic entities are sometimes regard as gods. Whereas in the DCU it's broken down into realms. Meaning that some readers consider what they call "gods" are actually super advance and highly evolved aliens. Whereas the term "gods" have a more divine meaning in the DCU.
And MU skyfathers being alien beings is a theory that has not been confirmed. It's been hinted at in stories, particularly Thor, but never confirmed. Eternals and Inhumans are not considered gods in Marvel.
And Wonder Woman's lasso breaking? Depends on the writer. Grant Morrison was the only one who wrote that the lasso was connected to universal truth. No other writer has confirmed, repeated or even hinted at it since then. If another writer was writing it, I think anyone with vast molecular powers could screw around with it, i.e. Galactus, Ion, Molecule Man, Spectre, etc. If you pulled on it, it'd just stretch. It is magic after all. The thing could feasibly stretch miles and miles through sheer magic alone to avoid breaking.
Originally posted by Soljer
The entire Host?Any?
The entire host could probably beat EVERY Pantheon. Simultaneously.
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Originally posted by OneDumbG0Actually, it can stretch nearly forever. I believe they pulled the Earth with it.
If you pulled on it, it'd just stretch. It is magic after all. The thing could feasibly stretch miles and miles through sheer magic alone to avoid breaking.
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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The Celestial Host kicked the crap out of the Marvel Skyfathers. They channeled all of their godly energies into the Destroyer armor and armed him with the Odinsword. They punked it and reduced it to slag. The Celestials are by far, some of the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe. They frikkin threw planets at Thanos!Silver Surfer could not lift Mjolnir's hammer, but I'm pretty sure Galactus could reduce it to a mere flower like he did to Hercules. Besides, Molecule Man disassembled Mjolnir with ease. But apparently, now you're asserting that MU gods and DCU gods are apples and oranges.
I fail to see how the Greek Pantheon in DC is considered anything more special or divine than the other high-tier cosmic beings in DC. If you believe one story, all of those beings came from the same Godwave. All of those beings' histories have been messed around with by Anti-Monitor, Parallax and Alexander Luthor. They don't operate outside the DCU in their own divine plane. They're as susceptible as any high-tier cosmic being.And MU skyfathers being alien beings is a theory that has not been confirmed. It's been hinted at in stories, particularly Thor, but never confirmed. Eternals and Inhumans are not considered gods in Marvel.
And Wonder Woman's lasso breaking? Depends on the writer. Grant Morrison was the only one who wrote that the lasso was connected to universal truth. No other writer has confirmed, repeated or even hinted at it since then. If another writer was writing it, I think anyone with vast molecular powers could screw around with it, i.e. Galactus, Ion, Molecule Man, Spectre, etc. If you pulled on it, it'd just stretch. It is magic after all. The thing could feasibly stretch miles and miles through sheer magic alone to avoid breaking.
Good post. 🙂
Being the embodiment of something doesnt necessarily mean youre the totality of that something. If the lasso was the totality of truth in DC then truth wouldnt exist anywhere else in DC, so it being the embodiment of universal truth according to one writers interpretation doesnt mean that to destroy it you would have to be a cosmic level reality warper who would have to be able to alter universal/multiversal cosmic law.
What beings have tried to break the lasso and failed? If no being of significant cosmic or mystical power is included on that list then that argument has even less credence.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Being the embodiment of something doesnt necessarily mean youre the totality of that something. If the lasso was the totality of truth in DC then truth wouldnt exist anywhere else in DC, so it being the embodiment of universal truth according to one writers interpretation doesnt mean that to destroy it you would have to be a cosmic level reality warper who would have to be able to alter universal/multiversal cosmic law.What beings have tried to break the lasso and failed? If no being of significant cosmic or mystical power is included on that list then that argument has even less credence.
GS, do u think one Celestial can break the lasso
Originally posted by guy222
GS, do u think one Celestial can break the lasso
Well i'd certainly consider a Celestial more powerful than any of the Greek pantheon. So if noone of truly great power has tried and failed to break the lasso, then i'd personally consider a Celestial capable of doing so. That of course would be speculation though as to my knowledge the lasso hasnt been broken. Anyone know any different?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Well i'd certainly consider a Celestial more powerful than any of the Greek pantheon. So if noone of truly great power has tried and failed to break the lasso, then i'd personally consider a Celestial capable of doing so. That of course would be speculation though as to my knowledge the lasso hasnt been broken. Anyone know any different?
I will let the DC faithful handle this one
Have a good one
