Superman with the Spear of Destiny vs. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet

Started by illadelph125 pages

Um, not to be a dick, but couldn't it just be that since the Spear of Destiny has divine blood on it that it can pierce the Spectre as well being as how Jesus=God=Spectre. It doesn't have to be especially powerful if it's purpose is to simply slay/injure deities.

Example of my point being that Holy Water will destroy Demons but if you threw it on Luke Cage he'll just slap you silly with no effect.

I'm just saying...

It is a Spear so getting stabbed would likely hurt, but it's supernatural abilities might not be exactly universal in application. You might not be able to stab just anything with it with the same effects.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Um, not to be a dick, but couldn't it just be that since the Spear of Destiny has divine blood on it that it can pierce the Spectre as well being as how Jesus=God=Spectre. It doesn't have to be especially powerful if it's purpose is to simply slay/injure deities.

Example of my point being that Holy Water will destroy Demons but if you threw it on Luke Cage he'll just slap you silly with no effect.

I'm just saying...

It is a Spear so getting stabbed would likely hurt, but it's supernatural abilities might not be exactly universal in application. You might not be able to stab just anything with it with the same effects.

Good point.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Um, not to be a dick, but couldn't it just be that since the Spear of Destiny has divine blood on it that it can pierce the Spectre as well being as how Jesus=God=Spectre. It doesn't have to be especially powerful if it's purpose is to simply slay/injure deities.

Example of my point being that Holy Water will destroy Demons but if you threw it on Luke Cage he'll just slap you silly with no effect.

I'm just saying...

It is a Spear so getting stabbed would likely hurt, but it's supernatural abilities might not be exactly universal in application. You might not be able to stab just anything with it with the same effects.

Is that why the user of the Spear can bring forth Ragnarok, ending all life? 😕

Originally posted by Galan007
Is that why the user of the Spear can bring forth Ragnarok, ending all life? 😕

What does that mean, and how does that work?

Originally posted by Mr Master
What does that mean, and how does that work?
Ragnarok = Armageddon.... You know, the end of life as we know it.

However, the Spear has never been applied in a Universal scale, but this doesn't mean that if it pierced through Thanos, it would not kill him... Because it would, IG or not..

But I do think the IG takes this simply because it is a much more versatile weapon.

How does a Judeo-Christian aritfact bring forth a Norse Apocalypse? That's the real question.

Just a little observation... but it didn't kill him here:

Originally posted by illadelph12
How does a Judeo-Christian aritfact bring forth a Norse Apocalypse? That's the real question.

Just Christian, since it involves Jesus.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The Spear of Destiny killed pre-crisis Spectre, post-crisis is far more powerful when tapped into the Logoz.
The Logoz is up there with the Source and Voice.

😕 Come on dude Pre-crisis spectre post crisis?

Originally posted by illadelph12
How does a Judeo-Christian aritfact bring forth a Norse Apocalypse? That's the real question.
😂

I wondered the same thing.

But the Spear is specifically referred to as having the ability to bring forth Ragnarok, in the old ass comics it first debuted in.

Originally posted by illadelph12
How does a Judeo-Christian aritfact bring forth a Norse Apocalypse? That's the real question.

Comics you gotta love them. 💃

Originally posted by Galan007
Ragnarok = Armageddon.... You know, the end of life as we know it.

How?

Reality explosion, Reality collapse, Reality alteration, opens the gates of hell?

Other?

Originally posted by Galan007
However, the Spear has never been applied in a Universal scale, but this doesn't mean that if it pierced through Thanos, it would not kill him... Because it would, IG or not..

Cool,

I can agree.

Originally posted by Galan007
I do think the IG takes this simply because it is a much more versatile weapon.

True,

I also heard the Spear has only been used against Spectre as a melee weapon,

if it's limited to that distance of attack, that's a weakness that can be exploited.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Just a little observation... but it didn't kill him here:


And these.....

Superman with the Spear of Destiny, kills Spectre!? 😱:

Actually,

It turns out that Superman killing Spectre with the Spear,
was only a vision of what would have happened if Superman had chosen the route of temptation:

Originally posted by Galan007
And these.....

Superman with the Spear of Destiny, kills Spectre!? 😱:

Actually,

It turns out that Superman killing Spectre with the Spear,
was only a vision of what [b]would
have happened if Superman had chosen the route of temptation:

[/B]

A vision vs what actually happened...

I really don't care, but really?

Originally posted by Galan007
😂

I wondered the same thing.

But the Spear is specifically referred to as having the ability to bring forth Ragnarok, in the old ass comics it first debuted in.

Hmm...

Was it ever specified how the spear did this? It could just be that a spear bearer is destined to kill someone who brings about armageddon (by setting off a chain of events by, say, killing the Spectre and allowing evil to run rampant in the DCU). It could be the key but not the means, feel me. Particularly if you take into consideration the Spectre/Supes encounter involving the spear.

Just speculation, of course, but within reason.

Originally posted by Mr Master
How?

Reality explosion, Reality collapse, Reality alteration, opens the gates of hell?

Other?


It's never been given the opportunity to allow Ragnarok to pass, so I don't know exactly how it would happen.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool,

I can agree.

🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
True,

I also heard the Spear has only been used against Spectre as a melee weapon,

if it's limited to that distance of attack, that's a weakness that can be exploited.

Yeah, it has been used to summon things like Norse Valkyries to do battle with the Spear-holder's enemies, but it's mainly been used as.... well........ a Spear.

Not a versatile weapon at all.

Unless Superman manually thrusted it through Thanos before T snapped his fingers, there is NO way Supes could take this. 😬

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
A vision vs what actually happened...

I really don't care, but really?

Yeah, that's what would have happened, but Supes' boy scout ass gave it up.. 🙄

Originally posted by Galan007
It's never been given the opportunity to allow Ragnarok to pass, so I don't know exactly how it would happen.

I see.

Originally posted by Galan007
Not a versatile weapon at all.

Unless Superman manually thrusted it through Thanos before T snapped his fingers, there is NO way Supes could take this.

I see.

Thanos ftw then.

Even pre-crisis Superman can't move faster than an IG wielder. (Space gem)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Even pre-crisis Superman can't move faster than an IG wielder. (Space gem)
There are very few who possess that kind of speed, and Supers is not one of them. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
There are very few who possess that kind of speed, and Supers is not one of them. 🙂

Infinity gauntlet is far, far more versatile than the spear. no contest. Space gem guarantees that thanos would be too fast to hit, Time gem could age supes a million years in a nanosecond, killing him instantly, mind gem turns supes into a vegetable, power gem can generate universe destroying blasts....there really isn't much you CANT do with it.
and range isn't an issue. thanos could be 1000 light years away and still use it.

in contrast, the spear...uh..could stab you.

the gauntlet also isn't limited to 616...it doesn't work in DC, but DOES work in the ultraverse, which was a totally different continuity IIRC. So using that as a gauge of which is more powerful isn't totally accurate.