the presance is the supreme character or being of DCU
lucifer morningstar is one of his creations that helped created the DCU he's above the spectre so its said in a sandman comic he once told the spectre off, his only equal is his bro micheal demigourge, who kicked spectres butt so i hear in day of judgement mini. He also is a mastermind who has defeated gods while in a mortal state and i dont mean thanos level i mean with out powers ZERO POWERS, and he's defeated immortals, he's also slaughtered gods and such he also once changed the universal laws just to defeat a guy who could not be destroyed by edict of universal law.........in a nut shell he's one bad dude who makes alot of characters even thanos look like nothing. But the presance is his boss.........thus the presance would defeat him.