Originally posted by juggernaut74
That's something I never thought of actually. Good pickup on that.
Ummm..what? Golem also said Sasquatch charged at him like a girl...what? Also the fact Sasquatch has taken blows from Hulk and never acted like a "cat getting hit by lightening". Funny as in another thread people are agreeing that whole comic was badly written. Like Snowbird losing to Angel?...friggin Angel?
Originally posted by King_MungiThat fight happened off panel though. Didn't it? Anything could have happened.
Ummm..what? Golem also said Sasquatch charged at him like a girl...what? Also the fact Sasquatch has taken blows from Hulk and never acted like a "cat getting hit by lightening". Funny as in another thread people are agreeing that whole comic was badly written. Like Snowbird losing to Angel?...friggin Angel?
Originally posted by juggernaut74
That fight happened off panel though. Didn't it? Anything could have happened.
Yes off-panel, you would have to ignore the fact Snowbird is stronger, faster, more durable even smarter [wisdom of the gods] and just overall far more powerful. So unless the Gods struck her down it's PIS. Also at this time Snowbird couldn't be in the States or she would die instantly, yet...ta da
Also bad writing Iceman freezing Vindicator geothermal suit, while Heather does NOTHING while her team is getting attacked from behind
Originally posted by King_MungiJust about any comic can be broken down like that. That's the way it goes.
Yes off-panel, you would have to ignore the fact Snowbird is stronger, faster, more durable even smarter [wisdom of the gods] and just overall far more powerful. So unless the Gods struck her down it's PIS. Also at this time Snowbird couldn't be in the States or she would die instantly, yet...ta daAlso bad writing Iceman freezing Vindicator geothermal suit, while Heather does NOTHING while her team is getting attacked from behind
Superman and Silver Surfer suffer from PIS more than just about anybody.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Just about any comic can be broken down like that. That's the way it goes.Superman and Silver Surfer suffer from PIS more than just about anybody.
There's so many errors in this comic, especially how Alpha FLight is portrayed as government lap-dogs, but at this time they were fighting the government.
Also the fact in vol.1, Puck said he would rather die than hurt a child...yet here? ta da.
Originally posted by King_MungiColossus taking down Sasquatch has nothing to do with this though. 😕
😕 you think Colossus beat Sasquatch back in the day with a simple judo toss.
Originally posted by King_MungiJuggernaut looked worse cause he don't have fur on his face or a healing factor either. Plus Earthmovers blow had him reeling. They did battle evenly after Earthmover bought Walter some time but saying neither gave a inch..I don't know. Sasquatches punches didn't even move Juggy back. Juggy knocked sent Walter flying twice. When Sasquatch came back him his hiatus he punched Juggy to which Juggy replied by sending him into a tree. Walters punch didn't even budge Juggy except maybe knock his head back.
Physically no, Juggernaut looked worse and the reason as I mentioned Earthmover jumped in as Alpha Flight was picked off basically the only real members that could fight were Earthmover and Sasquatch at this point. When no cheap shops were done, they battled blow for blow none of them budging an inch...and who looked worse? Juggz. Sasquatch has friggin taking on the Gods of the Arctic and Great Beasts at the same time not going Tanaraq in the Shattered Lands, yet Juggernaut overpowering him? yeah no.
In the rematch a few issues later Walter even in Hulk-Buster armor could not even knock out Juggernaut. And Juggy wasn't even fighting back!
I'm still not sold on Tanaraq either. But hopefully the new Omega Flight series will clear up this mystery on him. I do not like the treatment Walter is getting in the series thus far. He's better than that.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Juggernaut looked worse cause he don't have fur on his face or a healing factor either. Plus Earthmovers blow had him reeling. They did battle evenly after Earthmover bought Walter some time but saying neither gave a inch..I don't know. Sasquatches punches didn't even move Juggy back. Juggy knocked sent Walter flying twice. When Sasquatch came back him his hiatus he punched Juggy to which Juggy replied by sending him into a tree. Walters punch didn't even budge Juggy except maybe knock his head back.In the rematch a few issues later Walter even in Hulk-Buster armor could not even knock out Juggernaut. And Juggy wasn't even fighting back!
I'm still not sold on Tanaraq either. But hopefully the new Omega Flight series will clear up this mystery on him. I do not like the treatment Walter is getting in the series thus far. He's better than that.
and yet punches from Hulk, Hercules, Thing who are stronger than current Jugz didn't make him bleed or make his face go swallon. Yet Jugz will overpower him? yeah no. Previous past fights and showings go against this comic, especially all the other factors I mentioned earlier making this a badly written comic. Snowbird lost to Angel..uh huh. Not really, as the stone golem did no visible physical damage or environmental damage not like Walter's first hit to Jugz and why that would even hurt him is dumb as we clearly see it was him who did it. Jugz sent him flying once, one where he had his guard down and wasn't fighting which doesn't count and another that sent him back 10 feet. If that makes you stronger I guess US Agent is stronger than Ronan, Thing over Hulk, Spider-Man over Rhino, Wolverine over Roughouse etc.
What? no. Juggernaut was getting destroyed by Sasquatch until Heather and Mac told him to stop so he pauses and Jugz hits him once again with his guard down. Then later he charges at Jugz when he is upset with Sammy and pounds him into a bloody mess and that's when he wasn't fighting. I hope to god your not actually going to validate that fight. Did Mac or Heather fire any of their blasts, which would have stopped him? Nope. Did writer once again ignore the fact Mac has a shiled? yes. It was the Draco ark, even on the X-Men boards that's known as to be one of the worst written stories. Incredible.
Of course your not, you have verbally stated you don't like Sasquatch going Tanaraq at all. Alpha Flight Vol.1, Deadpool and even in Wolverine has said he is still connected to Tanaraq even in Snowbird's body. Hell Snowbird got possesses by Tanaraq twice just taking his form the same body Walter has now.
Here is a quote from Uncannyx-men.net's issue summary of issue #434.
"Sasquatch bears a grudge against Juggernaut after he was easily defeated by him in a previous encounter. [Uncanny X-Men #422] The three Alphans‘ “Hulk-buster” armor was created to provide extra defense against the physical strength of Juggernaut."
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Here is a quote from Uncannyx-men.net's issue summary of issue #434."Sasquatch bears a grudge against Juggernaut after he was easily defeated by him in a previous encounter. [Uncanny X-Men #422] The three Alphans‘ “Hulk-buster” armor was created to provide extra defense against the physical strength of Juggernaut."
And yet no where was that stated in the actual comic, I even posted the entire fight in the Sasquatch respect thread. Also why would Mac need extra defense? seeing as his shields held up against an atomic bomb at ground zero, and the combined might of Vindicator II, Windshear, Human Torch, Witchfire and Shaman couldn't penetrate his shields.
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and why the hell would Sasquatch need a hulk-buster suit? He battled the Hulk for 30 minitues without one, and he even beat an alternate reality Hulk. Once again are you justifying this issue?
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I don't know but that website has in-depth issue summaries for every Alpha Flight comic there is. Alpha Flight.net can't even claim that.
and? anyone can submit a summary on that site by emailing the webmaster, or they did [don't know if they still take emails]. I actually have the issues myself and posted the scans myself, and the fact is prior apperances of Alpha Flight contradict their appearances in the X-Men issues shown, shown by other scans I have posted all over this board.
So why are people using those two apperances as canon, while simplying ignoring all their past feats?
Originally posted by King_MungiIf that fight was judged like a boxing match Juggy would have won. He had more knock downs and landed more blows.
and? anyone can submit a summary on that site by emailing the webmaster, or they did [don't know if they still take emails]. I actually have the issues myself and posted the scans myself, and the fact is prior apperances of Alpha Flight contradict their appearances in the X-Men issues shown, shown by other scans I have posted all over this board.So why are people using those two apperances as canon, while simplying ignoring all their past feats?
Originally posted by long pig
Haha....Whoever said team are a bunch of dumbasses.
Foom could destroy the whole damn world if he wanted to like in FF. High-End magic+HIGH end strength/durability+high end acid/heat blasts=two dead hairy guys.
No one is debating that, Foom wins.
Originally posted by LordFear
Sabertooth is a non factor and in the end, FFF takes this. He is not given proper credit in recent years and unless Sas's other much stronger incarnation takes over, he is canadian bacon
Agreed, don't agree with Iron Man beating him. Bah!
Originally posted by snoopdogg
If that fight was judged like a boxing match Juggy would have won. He had more knock downs and landed more blows.
Yes and no, Sasquatch landed the biggest blow that did the most damage, then Jugz hit him with his guard down which would have been a DQ. Then afterwards they were very close. I even used the boxing system with you and the Colossus fight and you dismissed it.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Actually the Colossus/Sasquatch fight is similar to the Sasquatch/Juggernaut fight. Colossus punched Walter, then Walter punched Colossus knocking him down. When Walter punched Juggy it did nothing really but when Juggy hit Walter he knocked Sasquatch down.
No it's not at all, as Sasquatch didn't get hurt from Colossus punches and literally toyed with him, by lifting him up into the air and putting his hand on his forehead while Colossus swing in the open air. There is no similarities at all. Are you nuts? did nothing, I guess you skipped the page showing Jugz face at the end of the fight didn't you?