Hulk vs Doomsday vs Juggernaut

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Jean Grey could barely lift Juggernaut... 😐 and she did only try that, lift him, not throw him hundreds of miles an hour.
There is a difference, believe it or not.

It doesn't matter if he let go or not, but the main point is, that Juggernaut didn't stop, or even try to stop.

So now jean grey can lift nothing but 800 lbs with her tk. HMMM. well we should count that then, since i have seen her clear an entire field that was field with at least 30 tons of snow with her mind.

Good thing CIS is perfectly applicable in forum fights... good thing it still applies here... good thing Juggernaut's still a dumbass...

Originally posted by His Airness
I honestly don't see whats preventing Cain from simply stopping himself from being propelled in the air. BTW, at best being thrown at a few hundred miles an hour would be only be enough to send him across the city.

As I said, CIS. Add that to the laundry list of poor writing that was done in that comic.

Originally posted by carver9
So now jean grey can lift nothing but 800 lbs with her tk. HMMM. well we should count that then, since i have seen her clear an entire field that was field with at least 30 tons of snow with her mind.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I used the hundreds of miles an hour, as a comparison, to Jean not being able to lift him, and ruling out the throwing...
Doomsday can throw him harder than that though... She said herself that she could barely lift him...
God!

To bad jean has lifted 1000s of pounds more than he weigh. She has been doing that her entire career.

Doomsday has no way of beating juggernaut and doomsday isnt one of the most durable guys around either. I could have sworn he was defeated by getting his bones crushed.

Can you do me a favor and show me the scans of maxima beating the hell out of doomsday. Juggernaut>maxima

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think it was DOS. Not sure though.

no, that was hunter/prey. i thought the thread was only the DOS doomsday?

Originally posted by carver9
To bad jean has lifted 1000s of pounds more than he weigh. She has been doing that her entire career.

Doomsday has no way of beating juggernaut and doomsday isnt one of the most durable guys around either. I could have sworn he was defeated by getting his bones crushed.

Can you do me a favor and show me the scans of maxima beating the hell out of doomsday. Juggernaut>maxima

I could have sworn that he didn't have a fair fight against Superman, and that, Juggernaut fails to apply to this situation.

If it will shut you up, I'll show you scans of the weakest Doomsday getting knocked around, but not hurt, or damaged, because it never happened.

Now, can you show me scans of Juggernaut getting hurt by fire, or KO'ed by a forcefield. Or Hulk getting KO'ed by Spider-Man hitting him with a car, since you only accept low showings?

for arguement sake, lets just say DD, hulk, and jugs are equally as strong to one another. but the big advantage doomsday has is the super speed and reflexes that come with his blows. that's extra momentum to his punches. couldn't DD just dodge and punch his way through?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Too bad you didn't read the comic, so I fail to see why you're still going on about this...

I could have sworn that he didn't have a fair fight against Superman, and that, Juggernaut fails to apply to this situation.

If it will shut you up, I'll show you scans of the weakest Doomsday getting knocked around, but not hurt, or damaged, because it never happened.

Now, can you show me scans of Juggernaut getting hurt by fire, or KO'ed by a forcefield. Or Hulk getting KO'ed by Spider-Man hitting him with a car, since you only accept low showings?

Can you please show me the scan of juggernaut getting hurt by fire because I never heard or seen that happened. I know the he went into a range when spiderman ran that truck into him and it exploded. When has juggernaut ever been koed. omg. Show me this please.

Now i know about spiderman knocking hulk out. Not downing that. With the scans that you showed (by the way thanks, somebody stole my book and I havent seen the actual comic in a while) I just wanted to let you know that people are able to fight him, it was numerous of people in that comic that was giving him a good fight. Hulk can give him a fight and juggernaut (i think) could eventually end up beating him or it would end in a stalemate.

Originally posted by TheGame17
for arguement sake, lets just say DD, hulk, and jugs are equally as strong to one another. but the big advantage doomsday has is the super speed and reflexes that come with his blows. that's extra momentum to his punches. couldn't DD just dodge and punch his way through?

He never showed that he is able to dodge anything. I do agree with you about them being equal. They are almost equal except each has a edge on them with the others.

Doomsday (could be) is faster
Juggernaut is more durable
Hulk (my opinion) is stronger

If doomsday had juggernauts durability he would have NEVER lost to superman. Superman himself, when he encountered the hulk, stated that hulk was stronger than him. This was when hulk threw superman out of space.

i read the DOS comic and superman noticed that Doomsday was getting stronger the more they fought.

Originally posted by carver9
Can you please show me the scan of juggernaut getting hurt by fire because I never heard or seen that happened. I know the he went into a range when spiderman ran that truck into him and it exploded. When has juggernaut ever been koed. omg. Show me this please.

Now i know about spiderman knocking hulk out. Not downing that. With the scans that you showed (by the way thanks, somebody stole my book and I havent seen the actual comic in a while) I just wanted to let you know that people are able to fight him, it was numerous of people in that comic that was giving him a good fight. Hulk can give him a fight and juggernaut (i think) could eventually end up beating him or it would end in a stalemate.

Many people are able to fight Doomsday, but it's when Doomsday fights back, that people are f*cked badly.

Hulk can't give him a fight, not even close.
Juggernaut can only give him a fight because of his invunerability.

The only way Doomsday can beat Juggs, is a BFR, but he can beat Hulk without it, and handily.

Originally posted by carver9
He never showed that he is able to dodge anything. I do agree with you about them being equal. They are almost equal except each has a edge on them with the others.

Doomsday (could be) is faster
Juggernaut is more durable
Hulk (my opinion) is stronger

If doomsday had juggernauts durability he would have NEVER lost to superman. Superman himself, when he encountered the hulk, stated that hulk was stronger than him. This was when hulk threw superman out of space.

Doomsday only lost once to Superman in a fair fight (Doomsday Rex).
In DOS, Doomsday had fought waves of heroes, and other people as he fought Superman. Plus, Superman is also superiour to Hulk.

A non-canon comic, that happened, and in a non-canon comic, Superman punked Hulk, in mere h2h.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Doomsday blocked a couple speedblitzes by Superman, by way of offense.
He is faster than both of them by far. It's almost stupid, no wait, it's retarded to say they are close in speed.

Doomsday only lost once to Superman in a fair fight (Doomsday Rex).
In DOS, Doomsday had fought waves of heroes, and other people as he fought Superman. Plus, Superman is also superiour to Hulk.

A non-canon comic, that happened, and in a non-canon comic, Superman punked Hulk, in mere h2h.

I agree with you that he is faster than both but when I see him fight, everyone that he fights land licks when they swing. Doomsday arms moves fast but I have never seen him run,etc... in super speed but his punches does come fast.

And how was superman and doomsday moving at super speed when every person that was in the city of metropolis seen every punch, even recorded it, to the last punch. They were not moving at any kind of impressive speed.

I still think that hulk will give doomsday a fight of his life. He might lose due to the poison that is on the claws of doomsday that would eventually wear him down but hulk will fight to the end. Hulk is very underestimated on these forums and I hate the character but I still know what he is capable of.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you that he is faster than both but when I see him fight, everyone that he fights land licks when they swing. Doomsday arms moves fast but I have never seen him run,etc... in super speed but his punches does come fast.

And how was superman and doomsday moving at super speed when every person that was in the city of metropolis seen every punch, even recorded it, to the last punch. They were not moving at any kind of impressive speed.

I still think that hulk will give doomsday a fight of his life. He might lose due to the poison that is on the claws of doomsday that would eventually wear him down but hulk will fight to the end. Hulk is very underestimated on these forums and I hate the character but I still know what he is capable of.

I never mentioned DOS as a measure to Doomsday's speed...

Hulk is underated? I think Hulk giving Doomsday the fight of his life, says something...
Hulk would lose, because Doomsday would smash him.

We have all, also saw how Hulk does against people with claws, and very fast arms...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
And?
He caught Superman, when Superman was flying away...

I never mentioned DOS as a measure to Doomsday's speed...

Hulk is underated? I think Hulk giving Doomsday the fight of his life, says something...
Hulk would lose, because Doomsday would smash him.

We have all, also saw how Hulk does against people with claws, and very fast arms...

true but he still gives them a fight. Doomsday is the same character that hulk fights on a daily basis, nothing but brute strength. This would be a fight that hulk would enjoy (even though he would lose). This would be a good fight. Yeah hulk fights people with claws (guess your referring to wolverine) but wolverine is also extremely agile (which doomsday isnt) and have mastered avoiding blows (which doomsday gets hit on a regular basis, even though he can take it.).

Im not saying that hulk could win this. He has no way to beat either of these two but I do know that he MIGHT could get strong enough to rip doomsday in half since pieces of doomsday fly off of him on a regular basis. Hulk strength has no limit. Doomsday isnt all that durable since imperex did burn him down to the skeleton but superman entire body was still in contact when imperex tried to do the same thing to him.

Doomsday died by getting his bones crushed. Juggernaut got burned to the bone and was still walking. Same thing happened to hulk but he healed in like 5 panels.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Except, Juggernaut has had way more comics involving him, and you said Juggernaut would use his shield after being thrown, which, to my knowledge, he has never done.

Why didn't Juggernaut even try to put up his shield, like you said?

Because it was in a Thor comic. Thor had to win some how. Not to mention that the writer didn't research Juggernaut's character well enough. More than once that writer labeled Juggernaut a mutant.

But besides that I don't really know what his shield is capable of. But I wouldn't claim it can stop him in the air.

Juggernaut has power to move mountains. He was pinned underneath Trillions of tons of rock. Being pinned and being able to move/climb your way out is much, much harder than benching that same amount of weight.

People said Hulks durability + healing factor would keep him in the fight. Juggernaut has a healing factor that rivals the Hulks. In fact Juggernaut can stand and fight with no organs at all. The same cannot be said for the Hulk.

I would also like to see this moment that Juggernaut was "hurt" by fire.

it never happened. Juggernaut has never been hurt by fire.

All it takes is for Doomsday to die one time and evolve into a being with telepathy to crush juggs. he doesn't need anything special to beat the hulk. He gets stronger as he fights. Same as the Hulk. Being faster and having bones sharp enough to cut Superman and invuln matching superman's or even superior, says even the DOS doomsday is too much for hulk. giving him one death just gives him the victory.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
All it takes is for Doomsday to die one time and evolve into a being with telepathy to crush juggs. he doesn't need anything special to beat the hulk. He gets stronger as he fights. Same as the Hulk. Being faster and having bones sharp enough to cut Superman and invuln matching superman's or even superior, says even the DOS doomsday is too much for hulk. giving him one death just gives him the victory.

How is he going to get the majority when he cant take juggernaut out. Can we all say stalemate. Doomsday to my knowledge isnt nothing but pure brute strength. When have he been capable of doing anything telepathic.

Originally posted by carver9
How is he going to get the majority when he cant take juggernaut out. Can we all say stalemate. Doomsday to my knowledge isnt nothing but pure brute strength. When have he been capable of doing anything telepathic.

When he dies, he comes back not being able to be hurt the same way that he died and he also gains the ability to counter his opponent. Much like he did to Darksied's Omega beams. By Giving Doomsday one Death, the thread OP made it the more advanced version of Doomsday and NOT the DOS one. Becuz DOS doomsday only died once. Never to be seen again.