Originally posted by MRasheed
That's what he was actually doing while he was there. Gymnastic feats and sword tricks.
Originally posted by MRasheed
Kurt fences with both hands and his tail when we first saw him do it and he certainly didn't get that from Logan.
Originally posted by MRasheed
The guy with the longer legs/stride would have the advantage in a run just like a guy with longer arms has a natural advantage in boxing.
Well... considering the only book I own with Iron Fist in it is an ancient Frank Miller Daredevil issue, I can just go by IF's performance there. He was super quick, fluid and agile; DD couldn't touch him (and neither could he touch DD). Logan in contrast is the burly brawler-type. It stands to reason he'd get dusted in a foot race.
Originally posted by MRasheed
Well... considering the only book I own with Iron Fist in it is an ancient Frank Miller Daredevil issue, I can just go by IF's performance there. He was super quick, fluid and agile; DD couldn't touch him (and neither could he touch DD). Logan in contrast is the burly brawler-type. It stands to reason he'd get dusted in a foot race.
Why am I always stuck debating people who never read a wolverine comic in there live............
please just go to the wolverine respect thread.......If you really want to I can simply post tommarrow many many comics showing wolverines feats of speed.
Logan has matched spiderman in speed before such as in wolverine vs spiderman one shot.
You should not debate in threads when you have little knolwedge of the characters your debating about.
If you like I can PM you isses and such and BIO so you understand Logans character.
Also I own the issue your refferring to and both DD and IF got it in it and it was not a speed feat. It was a skill's and agility feat. Nothing in it had to do with speed.
Originally posted by capt it up
Logan traveled the world and is a master of more then 13 styles of sword play. Fencing is the term used when sparing with swords.
Wrong.
I may not know as much about comics as a good deal of the folks on this board, but if there's one thing I do know, it's sword fighting. Knowing 13 styles of sword play, being a samurai (he was one, wasn't he?), etc isn't going to help Wolverine in fencing.
Have to remember this is Olympic fencing too...there's no florentine fighting, no two handed fighting, etc, just plain ol' foil, epee, and sabre...
I give it to Nightcrawler, with Taskmaster right behind him, then Wolverine.
Originally posted by capt it up
Why am I always stuck debating people who never read a wolverine comic in there live............please just go to the wolverine respect thread.......If you really want to I can simply post tommarrow many many comics showing wolverines feats of speed.
I'm very aware of Wolverine. I haven't read many of his recent issues where he's apparently become a Cosmic Super-Ninja who can take Gladiator blind-folded. When I left off, his strength and reflexes were just beneath BP's. And now he's Superman apparently. I have little patience with the popularity-based power upgrades. Someone who's mastered their body enough to channel their chi into superhuman feats should clearly be faster than the wildman-brawler-wannabe samurai.
pft.
"Iron Fist is not faster than Wolverine."
"I never said Wolverine was faster than Iron Fist."
Wha?
That means the only POSSIBLE thing you could believe is that they are equals in speed.
And, if that WERE the case, then I, like Rasheed, would go with the person with the longer stride. 😬.
If it were a much further distance, I'd go with Logan due to his stamina, but in a 200 meter? 😬.
Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
Wrong.I may not know as much about comics as a good deal of the folks on this board, but if there's one thing I [b]do
know, it's sword fighting. Knowing 13 styles of sword play, being a samurai (he was one, wasn't he?), etc isn't going to help Wolverine in fencing.Have to remember this is Olympic fencing too...there's no florentine fighting, no two handed fighting, etc, just plain ol' foil, epee, and sabre...
I give it to Nightcrawler, with Taskmaster right behind him, then Wolverine. [/B]
Very good point. Epee/Rapier fencing is VASTLY different than using a Katana, Broadsword, or short sword.
Has Logan ever used an epee on panel? I know nightcrawler has.
Originally posted by Soljer
Very good point. Epee/Rapier fencing is VASTLY different than using a Katana, Broadsword, or short sword.Has Logan ever used an epee on panel? I know nightcrawler has.
He has before actaully. Also what i said was correct. Fencing is sparing with swords. Though olympic fencing is a different style . It still roughly the same thing. Also Ogun who trained wolverine had master european art's of fencing which he tought to wolverine. Actually one wolverine first met Ogun, Ogun was carring a saber.
Logan fencing skills>>>>>>Night crawlers.
The only thing is night crawler can teleport which is why tasky would lose even though he superior in skill to night crawler
Originally posted by Soljer
"Iron Fist is not faster than Wolverine.""I never said Wolverine was faster than Iron Fist."
Wha?
That means the only POSSIBLE thing you could believe is that they are equals in speed.
And, if that WERE the case, then I, like Rasheed, would go with the person with the longer stride. 😬.
If it were a much further distance, I'd go with Logan due to his stamina, but in a 200 meter? 😬.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Anything to back that statement up?I mean Logan isnt exactly known for his fencing prowess.
Help us out Capt.
Logan not known for his swordsmen skills................he been using swords as long as his claws pritty much but I will give you issue numbers if you like. If I have some scanns I throw them in as well.
Not to mention I give you the uncanny x-men issue when he shown training night crawler in swordmen skills lol.
Archery: Caps daily practice with his shield gives him the edge,
Boxing: Cap is the most skilled human in all of comicdom.
Fencing: Cap could transfer his skill into his weapons.
Gymnastics: Cap or Daredevil, ahrd to decide.
200 Meter Dash: Cap NEVER grows tired, and we know!
Shot Put: Cap can punch harder than Spidey, but Spidey takes this. he is just stronger.
Originally posted by capt it up
Logan not known for his swordsmen skills................he been using swords as long as his claws pritty much but I will give you issue numbers if you like. If I have some scanns I throw them in as well.Not to mention I give you the uncanny x-men issue when he shown training night crawler in swordmen skills lol.
I never said that Logan wasnt known for his swordsman skills. I stated that hes not known for his fencing skills.
Dam the issue numbers, because im not gonna buy nor download them.
Scans would be perfectly fine. Thanks Capt.
Originally posted by proudamerican
Archery: Caps daily practice with his shield gives him the edge,
Boxing: Cap is the most skilled human in all of comicdom.
Fencing: Cap could transfer his skill into his weapons.
Gymnastics: Cap or Daredevil, ahrd to decide.
200 Meter Dash: Cap NEVER grows tired, and we know!
Shot Put: Cap can punch harder than Spidey, but Spidey takes this. he is just stronger.
Wow. Im not sure how long youve been here, but its the first time im seeing you, so ill say Welcome.😄
Now, Caps aim is good, but its nowhere on the level of bullseye. Nowhere.
Cap is skilled but its highly debatable if hes the most skilled in all comicdom. Im assuming youre talking street level wise.
Fencing? Some scans of Cap fencing would be nice. If not, NC and Tasky still hold that over him.
Gymnastics can be between a few characters here, so.....
200 meter dash is a pretty fast sprint distance so i dont think fatigue plays much of a factor here.
"Cap can punch harder than Spidey..." I wont even comment on that one.