Death's Head vs Ultron

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Originally posted by golem370
Comic book bio's said Ultron could withstand a 100mega ton atomic bomb
Well considering Ultron is made out of adamantium, something like withstanding an explosion of that magnitude isn't overly impressive IMO.

Originally posted by leonidas
i have all the issues of DG but . . . a dark guard tie-in? there was supposed to be a dark guard gold, but it was cancelled. what book are you talking about? and when you said he defeated a person with the aggressive potency of a supernova, it SOUNDED like you were implying he straight up beat collapsar, when he fact he used a bit of pis to open his suit.

and . . . where did i say YOU said he could cut adamantium . . .? 😕 i was just agreeing with the earlier-made points. 🙂

It was Mys-Tech issue, and no I didn't and he DID beat him never did I say manhandled him. Death's Head II is pure PIS, that's what makes him strong.

You were direct quoting me and made the comment in your last paragraph.

*goes to read Mys-Tech again*

I don't remember anything hugely impressive from that arc. And it may have been during the universe fluctuations that were occurring during that series, which made everything go haywire. Thor got ripped apart by gunfire for cripes sake....and it was occurring for almost half the series.

As for DHII being PIS, I'd disagree with that assessment. He has a lot of showings, and doesn't always win. Eventually it just becomes a power level thing, not a PIS thing.

There was two volumes of Mys-tech, I will see if I can get my scanner working in the next few days. Also I hope you don't think I'm talking about the cut in half scan as I told you before I have no idea where that bio site got that from. There's just some chest healing ones I have.

Death Head II had new weapons and abilities popping up at all the time, that's PIS. He really didn't have a set style or power set as he constantly fluxuated and that's a fact.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
There was two volumes of Mys-tech, I will see if I can get my scanner working in the next few days. Also I hope you don't think I'm talking about the cut in half scan as I told you before I have no idea where that bio site got that from. There's just some chest healing ones I have.

Death Head II had new weapons and abilities popping up at all the time, that's PIS. He really didn't have a set style or power set as he constantly fluxuated and that's a fact.

A.I.M. had a bio for him early in his series that listed most of his powers. I'll send it to you. Pretty much everything he displays (minus a few things) is consistent with that bio, so I never saw a problem with the character.

Besides, he's cool.

😛

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It was Mys-Tech issue,

all right, though now i don't even know what you want to show. you mentioned some uber-healing feat to digi when you claimed dhii was over caps for the tournament. THAT is the feat you said was in dark guard, so if it's in mys-tech, whatever. i'd just like to kow what you were referring to.

and no I didn't

i never said you did. i said it SOUNDED like that's what you were saying. when you say someone beat someone and don't add the context . . .

and he DID beat him

of course. but context is important.

never did I say manhandled him

cool. cuz never did i say you DID say that.

Death's Head II is pure PIS, that's what makes him strong.

like digi, i'll disagree. perhaps early on he was less consistently shown, but later, and in the books i've seen and read, he's pretty consistently shown, actually. his hand can morph into pretty well any blade shape, and he can blast. he's good against tech, but none of that is anything all that special.

You were direct quoting me and made the comment in your last paragraph.

and? i said this:

he has nothing at all in his arsenal that could harm adamantium and ultron is likely stronger than he is and has greater blasting power.

far as i know you agree with the above, you quoted digi's post saying you agreed with the basic sentiment, so i've no idea why you would think i said YOU said anything different. the first part of the post addressed your quote, the rest was simple observation.

When he worked for the TVA he had a time displacement gun. That should do it.

Originally posted by leonidas
all right, though now i don't even know what you want to show. you mentioned some uber-healing feat to digi when you claimed dhii was over caps for the tournament. THAT is the feat you said was in dark guard, so if it's in mys-tech, whatever. i'd just like to kow what you were referring to.

i never said you did. i said it SOUNDED like that's what you were saying. when you say someone beat someone and don't add the context . . .

Just showing he can heal his chest as Digi and I had a discussion about wether or not he could heal parts from his other body, which I believe he can. The marvel universe bio apparently listed DH getting cut in half, but neither Digi or I found that

Once again he still BEAT him, even outpowered he still beat him.

Originally posted by leonidas

of course. but context is important.

and I never said he over-powered him or did anything in that regard, but you simply assumed I made comments where he flat out beat which, even though he technically did slicing open his suit.

Originally posted by leonidas

cool. cuz never did i say you DID say that.

No, you actually quoted me and said that.

Originally posted by leonidas

like digi, i'll disagree. perhaps early on he was less consistently shown, but later, and in the books i've seen and read, he's pretty consistently shown, actually. his hand can morph into pretty well any blade shape, and he can blast. he's good against tech, but none of that is anything all that special.

I'm talking about strength, durability, staima [said to suppose to have incalcuable stamina] and was said to have incalcuable pain threshold, his healing factor and various others. At times he can dominate the X-Men, but later Lionheart can give him a challenge.

Originally posted by leonidas

and? i said this:

far as i know you agree with the above, you quoted digi's post saying you agreed with the basic sentiment, so i've no idea why you would think i said YOU said anything different. the first part of the post addressed your quote, the rest was simple observation.

Yes I agreed he couldn't cut him, but the way you made the comment and tone implied you were implying I said he could

so all a misunderstanding then. 😉

and it's true -- i did make an assumption, though in truth i figured you knew what you were talking about with the collapsar fight.

my point is, i could say spiderman beat firelord too, and someone who knew nothing about comics would assume spidey beat him in a straight up fight. why wouldn't he assume such, if no extenuating context was supplied? if someone saw that dhii beat collapsar, some herald leveller (maybe?) they may think -- holy crap, dhii can beat firelord! and most people know nothing about dhii and LESS about collapsar so again, it's not an illogical assumption to jump to.

of course we both know dhii CANNOT beat firelord. which is why i said -- and have ALWAYS said -- context is vital to understanding. 🙂

Yeah let's leave it as a misunderstanding, but I assure you no way was I implying he outpowered or did anything in that regard.

Collapsar really didn't do much though in DG, other than being a potential "human bomb"

I seem to recall IM broadcasting a sonic frequency to jam Ultron's mechanics and cause his joints to lock up. It was in an issue with Spiderman, Black Panther and Sunturion. Roxxon Oil was making an artificial vibranium. Ultron cut a deal with Kingpin to split the vibranium after stealing it.