Originally posted by Mišt
No, I meant Lizard's background story can be done in 5mins, Connors' is already introduced, all they'd need to do is show some experiment go wrong or whatever, Lizard is created, presto. Have something easy to do, like:1) - Minor villain introduced, someone who doesnt need a lot of backstory and can be shoved in, like Rhino or someone. Just shown fighting Spiderman for a bit, then losing/running away for later..
2) - Lizard introduced, something easy like an experiment gone wrong or something. Doesnt need to be elaborated much.
3) - Get all the crap out of the way, all Peter/MJ stuff etc while the bad guys are preparing to cause chaos.
4) - Lizard vs Spiderman, Spiderman finds out its Connors, wants to find cure. Intro Venom, (who has previously gone and found Rhino, recruited him) wants to stop Spiderman from finding cure and tries to recruit Lizard. Spiderman vs Venom/Rhino. Lizard joins Venom/Rhino, Spiderman loses and runs away.
5) - Peter goes off to find cure, insert more stuff with MJ and JJJ and all the other side characters
6) - Trio of villains cause chaos in the city for whatever reason.
7) - Spiderman defeats Rhino for good, defeats Venom either for good or for next movie again. Gives cure to Lizard, returns to normal, Peter and MJ get married, everyone is happy etc.
3 villains can work in the movie as long as they follow the main plot together, instead of splitting each villain into their own side story while Spiderman fights them seperately. 4 would probably not work, unless they had another minor villain who can be defeated easily and doesnt distract from story.
Oh, I see, you are right.But I would much rather see this...Involving Carnage...Symbiote haters, dont jump on me!!
1:Movie opens....what the hell...Throw Rhino in, get him beasted in like 5 mins to open the movie....He's done for....
2: Show the current status of Parkers life.Generally happy, making up with MJ about the mistakes each made in Spiderman 3.
3😛arker gets attacks by the returning Venom, similar to the way he was jumped by Harry in 3.Venom completely gets the upper hand on Peter.Parker manages to escape some how.Probably some sound thing again.
4:Venom continues to torment Spiderman, but we slowly see the development of the Lethal Protector of the comics.And soon he begins to defend people.Still an enemy of Spiderman however.
5:Meanwhile, Conners becomes involved in the accident as you stated.Not much emphasis needed, Enter Lizard!In the midst of the chaotic accident the symbiote sample breaks free from the jar.Desperate to find a host the symbiote escapes.
6:Lizard is found terrorizing the city people and Spidey comes to the rescue.As does Venom if the action needs even more spice.Venom vs Spiderman vs Lizard.Triple threat.In the midst of the battle Peter finds out the Lizard is Doc Conners and seeks a cure.
7:Meanwhile the symbiote meets with Cletus Kassidy and bonds with him forming Carnage.
8:A series of murders take place, but police are clueless as to the murderer, no weapons were found at the scenes.(The axe arm thing would be used probably.)Spiderman moves onto the scene only to meet up with Carnage and be easily defeated.
9:Carnage meets with the Lizard.The two become a team.(I know, it sounds exactly like Spiderman 3's Sandman/ Venom team up....Hopefully without of all the MJ/Parker emo scenes, there can be some more development to this team up.)
10😛eter finds a cure and goes off to battle the Lizard.The battles resumes only until Carnage comes to his aid and forces Spidey to retreat.
11:Knowing nobody else to go to, Spiderman goes to Venom and asks for his help.Venom relunctantly agrees.
12:Venom and Spidey team up to face Carnage and Lizard, an Amazing battle resumes as finnally Venom is able to hold off Carnage just long enough for Spiderman to cure Doc Conners.Spiderman then goes to resume to battle with Carnage.Focus should stay on Spidey during this battle because it is the final one for the movie, The hero should get all the glory.Spidey and Venom win.The two part ways after Venom threatens that next time they meet, they will once again be enemies.
13:Happy ending scene with Peter and MJ having fully worked things out by now.After credits should have a scene hinting to the next Villain, perhaps a GG Norman Return....To kill off Gwen Stacy.
Perhaps Venom could die sacrificing himself in the final battle, so he doesnt become a sidekick like character in future movies.Though I would prefer him to live.I know the movie will be nothing like this, but that would be awesome...to me...
Originally posted by Arachnid1
You now what would be really cool? A Spiderman TV show like smallville that was realstic instead of a cartoon. Then you could have web shooters and a bunch of time to develop characters and stuff. Not to mention you see it weekly. Then everyone is happy. We can have web shooters developed characters, peter still going to highschool with gwen stacy, flash, and MJ and everything. That would be amazing.
That would be boring! Much like Parker's crusade to rid the world of organics, I wish to rid the world of Superhero soaps. Smallville is a joke. It's just meant for moody teenagers to do something with their eyes...
Originally posted by Scythe
That would be boring! Much like Parker's crusade to rid the world of organics, I wish to rid the world of Superhero soaps. Smallville is a joke. It's just meant for moody teenagers to do something with their eyes...
I think smallville is amazing. Its a great show. Queens or whatever somone would call it would be even better.
And this wouldn't exactly be a soap would it? It would pretty much just be the comic except on TV.
Originally posted by Menetnashté
Oh, OK thanks for showing me the error of my ways 🙄 What have they done? They gave him organic webbing, so? He apparently has it in the comics now anyways. What else did they really do that was so wrong, besides Ben's death messed with in 3, but by then you were already hating it, obviously no one will take you seriously since you can't get past webbing, I mean come on! That's sad, not everyone in the world reads spider-man Mr. Parker.
yeah but those morons didnt put the organics in the comics until AFTER the movie came out.if it werent for these sony idiots making these movies and they had given him the mechs,those moronic organics would never have come out.see like all MAN-SPIDER fans,your putting words in my mouth.you just ASSUME since I hate those moronic organics so much that thats why I hate the movies.untrue.I thought I would hate the movies mostly because of that-because any true spidey fan would,but it was MUCH MUCH more than the organics that ruined the movies for me.these movies look like they are written by someone with the ideas of a 5 year old.the scripts are horrible and pathetic,especially the first one.the second one was watchable because of the special effects and it did not have anywhere near as many corny and cheesy lines.it could have been a magical movie like batman begins and the first two superman movies because of the amazing special effects and how it was much more loyal to the comic than the first one was if not for idiotic crap like that raindrops keep falling on my head song.thats the kind of writing I would expect out of a 5 year old. 😘 cheesy as hell.
btw I am all for changes just as long as they are reasonable and make sense.the organics however are not,they are an unnessary and moronic change that just dumbs down his character.the people who never read the comics that like the movies dont realise spiderman is a much more interesting character with mechs than organics.any idiot like flash thompson could have become man-spider with the organics,but it was petes gift and intelligence that made him unique to create the mechs to become spider-man,not just anybody could have done that.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
btw I am all for changes just as long as they are reasonable and make sense.the organics however are not,they are an unnessary and moronic change that just dumbs down his character.the people who never read the comics that like the movies dont realise spiderman is a much more interesting character with mechs than organics.any idiot like flash thompson could have become man-spider with the organics,but it was petes gift and intelligence that made him unique to create the mechs to become spider-man,not just anybody could have done that.
Parker makes a good point, organics should've been left out. I swear!
Originally posted by Arachnid1
I think smallville is amazing. Its a great show. Queens or whatever somone would call it would be even better.And this wouldn't exactly be a soap would it? It would pretty much just be the comic except on TV.
dude you have really bad taste in films and movies.Smallville was a good show the first 3 seasons but after that,it went downhill big time when they started doing dumb things like bringing Lois Lane into smallville,having Chloe find out his secret,it was okay for pete to know his secret but Chole? big mistake.the show really went downhill after pete left and then they brought in Lois to replace him.Then the bastards go and kill Jonathan.The show really went downhill big time after that.He was fun to watch and was pretty much why that show was so enjoyable to watch.the bastards killed him off too soon.I have no problem with him dying but it shouldn't have happened until like late in the season in next years final season. 😠 as I was saying-the show really went downhill when pete left and they brought in Lois to replace him,she is so damn annoying with her-hey smallville crap that she spouts off to clark all the time. 😠 Man I wanted her to stay dead.When they killed off jonathan that was the last straw,I started taping the shows after that and fastforwarded through the scenes that did not have Lana in them.knowing those morons there,they probably killed her off as well. 🙄
btw,Raimi must be releated to that other idiot film director Tim Burton and must be taking the same drugs Burton took when he made the batman movies because he obviously got that idea from Burton to have a villian from the comics kill off uncle ben from Burton.One of these days when they restart the spiderman movies and make a SPIDERMAN movie instead of man-spider,then when audiences see him with the mechs they will find out what a true idiot sam raimi is like people have found that about about Burton about his knowledge of the batman movies.Batman 89 of course had Burton have the joker kill his parents where in batman begins they did it right and had joe something kill his parents,well when I saw the movie,I heard people in the audiences saying-I thought The Joker killed his parents? well they are finding out thats now how it happened and what a true idiot Tim Burton is.they will find out the same when about Raimi when one day they do the spiderman movies right as well and give him the mechs.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
dude you have really bad taste in films and movies.Smallville was a good show the first 3 seasons but after that,it went downhill big time when they started doing dumb things like bringing Lois Lane into smallville,having Chloe find out his secret,it was okay for pete to know his secret but Chole? big mistake.the show really went downhill after pete left and then they brought in Lois to replace him.Then the bastards go and kill Jonathan.The show really went downhill big time after that.He was fun to watch and was pretty much why that show was so enjoyable to watch.the bastards killed him off too soon.I have no problem with him dying but it shouldn't have happened until like late in the season in next years final season. 😠 as I was saying-the show really went downhill when pete left and they brought in Lois to replace him,she is so damn annoying with her-hey smallville crap that she spouts off to clark all the time. 😠 Man I wanted her to stay dead.When they killed off jonathan that was the last straw,I started taping the shows after that and fastforwarded through the scenes that did not have Lana in them.knowing those morons there,they probably killed her off as well. 🙄btw,Raimi must be releated to that other idiot film director Tim Burton and must be taking the same drugs Burton took when he made the batman movies because he obviously got that idea from Burton to have a villian from the comics kill off uncle ben from Burton.One of these days when they restart the spiderman movies and make a SPIDERMAN movie instead of man-spider,then when audiences see him with the mechs they will find out what a true idiot sam raimi is like people have found that about about Burton about his knowledge of the batman movies.Batman 89 of course had Burton have the joker kill his parents where in batman begins they did it right and had joe something kill his parents,well when I saw the movie,I heard people in the audiences saying-I thought The Joker killed his parents? well they are finding out thats now how it happened and what a true idiot Tim Burton is.they will find out the same when about Raimi when one day they do the spiderman movies right as well and give him the mechs.
My taste in films and movies are fine. Just because you don't like something and someone else does, doesn't mean they have bad taste.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
That means then that your a MAN-SPIDER fan as well which doesnt make you a true spidey fan. 😛
Why cant anyone be a fan of both!?!?Is there no god!?!?!?!?!?!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Mr Parker
yeah but those morons didnt put the organics in the comics until AFTER the movie came out.if it werent for these sony idiots making these movies and they had given him the mechs,those moronic organics would never have come out.see like all MAN-SPIDER fans,your putting words in my mouth.you just ASSUME since I hate those moronic organics so much that thats why I hate the movies.untrue.I thought I would hate the movies mostly because of that-because any true spidey fan would,but it was MUCH MUCH more than the organics that ruined the movies for me.these movies look like they are written by someone with the ideas of a 5 year old.the scripts are horrible and pathetic,especially the first one.the second one was watchable because of the special effects and it did not have anywhere near as many corny and cheesy lines.it could have been a magical movie like batman begins and the first two superman movies because of the amazing special effects and how it was much more loyal to the comic than the first one was if not for idiotic crap like that raindrops keep falling on my head song.thats the kind of writing I would expect out of a 5 year old. 😘 cheesy as hell.btw I am all for changes just as long as they are reasonable and make sense.the organics however are not,they are an unnessary and moronic change that just dumbs down his character.the people who never read the comics that like the movies dont realise spiderman is a much more interesting character with mechs than organics.any idiot like flash thompson could have become man-spider with the organics,but it was petes gift and intelligence that made him unique to create the mechs to become spider-man,not just anybody could have done that.
I agree with you there, it could've been more interesting if he had of done that, but I just think you make it out way way worse than it is.
Originally posted by Menetnashté
So, from what you're saying and have said, repeatedly if I like the movies I'm not a spider-man fan, would that mean that Stan Lee isn't a true spidey fan too? I mean he made the comics, so that wouldn't make sense at all. I really don't think it's much of a five year old script either, the third would've had the closest to a five year olds script, the first one had one of the better scripts imo. I don't see what makes you think that it seems like it's written by a five-year old, except for the whole MJ gets captured in every movie, that's the worst thing they do.I agree with you there, it could've been more interesting if he had of done that, but I just think you make it out way way worse than it is.
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Originally posted by Micheal_Myers
Oh, I see, you are right.But I would much rather see this...Involving Carnage...Symbiote haters, dont jump on me!!1:Movie opens....what the hell...Throw Rhino in, get him beasted in like 5 mins to open the movie....He's done for....
2: Show the current status of Parkers life.Generally happy, making up with MJ about the mistakes each made in Spiderman 3.
3😛arker gets attacks by the returning Venom, similar to the way he was jumped by Harry in 3.Venom completely gets the upper hand on Peter.Parker manages to escape some how.Probably some sound thing again.
4:Venom continues to torment Spiderman, but we slowly see the development of the Lethal Protector of the comics.And soon he begins to defend people.Still an enemy of Spiderman however.
5:Meanwhile, Conners becomes involved in the accident as you stated.Not much emphasis needed, Enter Lizard!In the midst of the chaotic accident the symbiote sample breaks free from the jar.Desperate to find a host the symbiote escapes.
6:Lizard is found terrorizing the city people and Spidey comes to the rescue.As does Venom if the action needs even more spice.Venom vs Spiderman vs Lizard.Triple threat.In the midst of the battle Peter finds out the Lizard is Doc Conners and seeks a cure.
7:Meanwhile the symbiote meets with Cletus Kassidy and bonds with him forming Carnage.
8:A series of murders take place, but police are clueless as to the murderer, no weapons were found at the scenes.(The axe arm thing would be used probably.)Spiderman moves onto the scene only to meet up with Carnage and be easily defeated.
9:Carnage meets with the Lizard.The two become a team.(I know, it sounds exactly like Spiderman 3's Sandman/ Venom team up....Hopefully without of all the MJ/Parker emo scenes, there can be some more development to this team up.)
10😛eter finds a cure and goes off to battle the Lizard.The battles resumes only until Carnage comes to his aid and forces Spidey to retreat.
11:Knowing nobody else to go to, Spiderman goes to Venom and asks for his help.Venom relunctantly agrees.
12:Venom and Spidey team up to face Carnage and Lizard, an Amazing battle resumes as finnally Venom is able to hold off Carnage just long enough for Spiderman to cure Doc Conners.Spiderman then goes to resume to battle with Carnage.Focus should stay on Spidey during this battle because it is the final one for the movie, The hero should get all the glory.Spidey and Venom win.The two part ways after Venom threatens that next time they meet, they will once again be enemies.
13:Happy ending scene with Peter and MJ having fully worked things out by now.After credits should have a scene hinting to the next Villain, perhaps a GG Norman Return....To kill off Gwen Stacy.Perhaps Venom could die sacrificing himself in the final battle, so he doesnt become a sidekick like character in future movies.Though I would prefer him to live.I know the movie will be nothing like this, but that would be awesome...to me...
This idea for Spiderman 4 actually sounds interesting. Of course, Venom shouldn't sacrifice himsel at the end, but besides that, this idea is slightly interesting. It would be cool if Spiderman and Venom fight each other in the movie and then team up to defeat a bigger threat, such as Carnage. The Lizard could be a villain that only last one hour of the movie because he really isn't that important. We just need a reason for the sample in Dr. Connors' lab to escape. As long as Venom appears in Spiderman 4, I'll be happy. 😄
Originally posted by Yoshi Fanatic
This idea for Spiderman 4 actually sounds interesting. Of course, Venom shouldn't sacrifice himsel at the end, but besides that, this idea is slightly interesting. It would be cool if Spiderman and Venom fight each other in the movie and then team up to defeat a bigger threat, such as Carnage. The Lizard could be a villain that only last one hour of the movie because he really isn't that important. We just need a reason for the sample in Dr. Connors' lab to escape. As long as Venom appears in Spiderman 4, I'll be happy. 😄
I too dont want Venom to die.But at the same time, I dont want him to become a sidekick either.
Originally posted by Micheal_Myers
I too dont want Venom to die.But at the same time, I dont want him to become a sidekick either.
HE WON'T BE A SIDEKICK!!!!
For goodness sake, people. Venom will be Spiderman's PARTNER. He's been his partner on cartoons, video games, and comic books. He has NEVER been refered to as a sidekick.