Thsis thread reminds me of "Logans Run" a TV series & book where they bumped of older people of a certain age (21?). After a nuclear war eveyone lived in a dome so there wasn´t much room.
I recon they should get some carribean island, do it up and put all old folk on there so they can enjoy ther rest of their life in paradise, ok one persons idea of paradise is anothers nightmare, but hey thats life.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Thsis thread reminds me of "Logans Run" a TV series & book where they bumped of older people of a certain age (21?). After a nuclear war eveyone lived in a dome so there wasn´t much room.I recon they should get some carribean island, do it up and put all old folk on there so they can enjoy ther rest of their life in paradise, ok one persons idea of paradise is anothers nightmare, but hey thats life.
Why not just kill them then? Lots of old people believe in heaven, so we might as well just send to the final paradise right away. A lot easier, saves room and leaves us with a beautiful island 🙂
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Thsis thread reminds me of "Logans Run" a TV series & book where they bumped of older people of a certain age (21?). After a nuclear war eveyone lived in a dome so there wasn´t much room.I recon they should get some carribean island, do it up and put all old folk on there so they can enjoy ther rest of their life in paradise, ok one persons idea of paradise is anothers nightmare, but hey thats life.
The idea of putting down old people.... It sounds just like the Quietus out of the Children of Men novel. And the idea of putting down those who have contributed into shaping our country and the world in the past is just absolutely absurd. Putting down our elderly is practically filial ingratitude at its worse.
My father is a 65 year old man who has done a whole CRAPLOAD with his life which I cannot even hope to measure up to. He used to be practically homeless in the first few years of his life. All the labour that he did, he did in the name of his family so that they wouldnt starve to death. First he managed to be a teacher, then a principal. Eventually he went to med- school and became a doctor. During those years, he became prestigous enough to become a teacher of medicine. Later on he served in the Vietnam War as a medic and rose to the rank of Lietenant. I should also mention he serve jail time because of his political views against his communist government. Eventually the time came for my family to get the hell out of Vietnam. He was rich enough) to gave away all his money to all kinds of people so that they can escape Vietnam. And now he is retired, and has parkinsons and Gout. Most of his time is spent in the hospital treating his diseases. Given his past, does that really sound like a man you would want to put down because he is a burden?
Originally posted by doan_m
The idea of putting down old people.... It sounds just like the Quietus out of the Children of Men novel. And the idea of putting down those who have contributed into shaping our country and the world in the past is just absolutely absurd. Putting down our elderly is practically filial ingratitude at its worse.My father is a 65 year old man who has done a whole CRAPLOAD with his life which I cannot even hope to measure up to. He used to be practically homeless in the first few years of his life. All the labour that he did, he did in the name of his family so that they wouldnt starve to death. First he managed to be a teacher, then a principal. Eventually he went to med- school and became a doctor. During those years, he became prestigous enough to become a teacher of medicine. Later on he served in the Vietnam War as a medic and rose to the rank of Lietenant. I should also mention he serve jail time because of his political views against his communist government. Eventually the time came for my family to get the hell out of Vietnam. He was rich enough) to gave away all his money to all kinds of people so that they can escape Vietnam. And now he is retired, and has parkinsons and Gout. Most of his time is spent in the hospital treating his diseases. Given his past, does that really sound like a man you would want to put down because he is a burden?
Irrelevant. The theory is that people should be killed because they are a burden to society now. If he would still contribute to society then you are right he shouldn't be put down he doesn't so his past really isn't a good argument.
(assuming you agree with the theory that is)
Originally posted by Fishy
[B]Irrelevant.
The theory is that people should be killed because they are a burden to society now.The fundamental problem with such a statement is firstly, that it not only extends to seniors but it also extends to those who are considered "disadvantageous" based on what our society would dictate. It would also reach out to those who are mentally disabled, and those who are in a irreversible comatose state (a vegetable if you will). Now all those people, should we just honestly just kill them off because we find them an economic burden. ?
If he would still contribute to society then you are right he shouldn't be put down he doesn't so his past really isn't a good argument.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Thsis thread reminds me of "Logans Run" a TV series & book where they bumped of older people of a certain age (21?). After a nuclear war eveyone lived in a dome so there wasn´t much room.I recon they should get some carribean island, do it up and put all old folk on there so they can enjoy ther rest of their life in paradise, ok one persons idea of paradise is anothers nightmare, but hey thats life.
Family Guy parodied that.
Re: Old People Should be Put Down
Originally posted by ~Forever*Alone~
"A modest proposal"When I go to the hospital, to visit my brother after another one of his drunken accidents, I see an alarming amount of the same type of people filling the hospital beds. These types of people are also clogging the streets of White Rock and Kelowna when I go there to shop or stroll. I see them everywhere, in every country, in every region of the world. These people may be chalk full of wisdom, but their feeble minds sometimes can’t retrieve it all, or they’ve become vegetables. I’m talking about the elderly. Becoming old is reaching epidemic proportions in this world.
As they get older, elderly people contribute less and less to society, and in fact, become a burden after they’ve stopped working, as they require pensions and a significant amount of medical care and attention. Many elderly are confined to hospital bed as doctors try to keep their unfulfilling lives intact, using valuable resources and much needed medical supplies. There are a lot of young people who still have their lives ahead of them that might need an organ that would be given to an old person just because the need was more urgent. Thus, my proposal is that once they reach a certain age (perhaps 70), having had a fulfilling life and without a job, we kindly put them down. Now, I know humans can live to be 120 years old, but by then they are virtually useless, having lost function in their brains and bodies.
The Earth’s population is somewhere around 6,716,098,794 people and that number keeps growing. Dependant old people make up 25.8% of that population. If we could eliminate that burden, many people would be able to live happier more extravagant lives, and their children would have more opportunities and better educational funds. It would also serve to solve some of the Earths overpopulation problem.
It would also free up many housing opportunities for less fortunate people and homeless people, since someone would have to fill up the space left behind by all the deceased old people. We could easily fit all of the homeless people into the many retirement communities that there are in this country. It would also provide an opportunity for people to move to Canada from poorer countries.Also, the strain on the healthcare system would be relieved, as elderly people take up over 42% of the system. Care taken from young people who may lose their lives for the sake of an old person would be given back, and there would be less waiting periods for organ transplant and other treatments. And one can’t help but compare the value of a younger person’s life to an old person, which is much less than the young persons, as they are nearing the end of it. It’s just unfortunate that elderly people’s organs and tissues are virtually useless at that point, or else they could be giving back in many more ways.
I also have to admit, not many people I know enjoy the thought of growing old, and the possibility of dying before having become senile or vegetative is an appealing prospect. I myself would rather die some fantastic way than be a vegetable lying in a bed. What would be the point of living if you can’t do anything or even enjoy it through remembering? Plus, by that age, many of your friends might already be dead or demented, and let’s be honest; almost nobody over the age of ten really likes the company of seniors.
And I can’t say I would be entirely unaffected by this proposition. I have grandparents who I hold near and dear to me, but they are getting a little senile and living off of pensions, which are barely enough to support them. I would miss my grandparents dearly, but if it’s for the betterment of society I’m sure they’d agree. They would be given the opportunity to say goodbye to their family and younger friends, have a chance to enjoy their funeral, and then given the lethal injection, right into their coffin if they wish (skip embalming, it’s pointless), or carted off to the crematorium.
I don't think thats right.
Everybody deserves a chance to live, age shouldn't rob them of that opportunity.
If they are very ill, suffering immensely, or are so helpless they need to be taken care of twenty four hours of the day then yes. Nobody should have to live like that. But life is precious, and nobody should be denied that.
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Originally posted by AmbienceExcept for jews of course.
I don't think thats right.
Everybody deserves a chance to live, age shouldn't rob them of that opportunity.
If they are very ill, suffering immensely, or are so helpless they need to be taken care of twenty four hours of the day then yes. Nobody should have to live like that. But life is precious, and nobody should be denied that.
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Originally posted by doan_m
[B]No. Reference to the past is completely relevant. Simply put, the past has always been the deciding factor behind what shall occur in the present. All those beings who have made their contributions (no matter how insignificant in our views) and ultimately shape our lives the way they are should be given the respect that they deserve for the toils of thier lives rather then thrown out like yesterdays garbage.
If we look at the burden they cause now, then their past is irrelevant.
The fundamental problem with such a statement is firstly, that it not only extends to seniors but it also extends to those who are considered "disadvantageous" based on what our society would dictate. It would also reach out to those who are mentally disabled, and those who are in a irreversible comatose state (a vegetable if you will). Now all those people, should we just honestly just kill them off because we find them an economic burden. ?
I don't think that no, according to this theory however yes why the hell not? They are a burden as well after all and if we want to make the society as effective and rich as possible then it would indeed require we kill those people as well.
So what you are saying is that a persons right to live should be based on whether or not he makes his contribution to society? It is suffice to say that were such a law was to be condoned then our ethnics would be so blatantly clear: Our hearts would be in our wallets first then they would be in life.
Yeah pretty much.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Wow so basically you created a ridiculous thread to see if we were all retarded? So either you have no life and spend all you time wasting time with pointless threads that waste space, or else you are really smart and are trying to learn how people react. I would have done something like that.And i dont get the allusion...please clarify
your just mad cuz u believed him