Thank you, emperor.
Range Attacks/ Projectiles: Sagat obviously has this since his limbs are so long and he's one of if not the best projectile character in Street Fighter.
also, true that Sagat has longer reach but Ryo isn't a dumbass either. I alreayd went over Ryo's moves and how they have a fast pick up. all his strongest moves are done with very little pick up time.
Ryo's projectiles are nothing too special, at most they are simply bigger which doesn't mean much. Size =/= Damage besides his Hoashishoken couldn't even knock out a women, that's just plain Sad.
Power: Ryo has a rooted stance, Sagat has incredible muscle mass backed up by Muat Thai. He killed an opponent with his blows, that's more than I can say for Ryo.
Not to mention his Rush techniques are difficult to supress.
Experience: Sagat. . .I shouldn't really have to elaborate on this.
Durability: Survived a Metsu Shoryuken...
I mean I don't seew hat Ryo has here, even Sagat from Street Fighter one could kill Ryo.
~Sado
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Here's my assessment of the fightRange Attacks/ Projectiles: Sagat obviously has this since his limbs are so long and he's one of if not the best projectile character in Street Fighter.
Ryo's projectiles are nothing too special, at most they are simply bigger which doesn't mean much. Size =/= Damage besides his Hoashishoken couldn't even knock out a women, that's just plain Sad.
Power: Ryo has a rooted stance, Sagat has incredible muscle mass backed up by Muat Thai. He killed an opponent with his blows, that's more than I can say for Ryo.
Not to mention his Rush techniques are difficult to supress.
Experience: Sagat. . .I shouldn't really have to elaborate on this.
Durability: Survived a Metsu Shoryuken. . .
I mean I don't seew hat Ryo has here, even Sagat from Street Fighter one could kill Ryo.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I forgot to add, before anyone brings up certain arguments I already have counters for them.1. Sagat lost to Adon, who Ryo could beat.
A: Yeah, an un-focused out of character Sagat was defeated by Adon. After which, Adon was hospitalized for four months whilst Sagat was busy kicking random fighters asses.
Sagat was not himself when he lost he was pissed off and we all know how anger clouds the judgement. Not to mention he still managed to send Adon to the hospital while he was pretty much fine.
Never mind that Adon was Sagat's student, and I'm pretty sure he knows how he fights. Sagat is not unfocused in this match, So, I don't wanna have to address this common argument. Besides, ryo had a hard time with a women.
2. King Survived because she's durable, not because Ryo's weak. Besides, couldn't we ay the same about Ryu being weak because Hugo and Sagat survived his best moves?
No, because Hugo and Sagat survived the Strongest moves in the Street Fighter Universe. Unless hoashishoken is the Strongest move in AOF/FF that point is moot.
Anyone who's played alpha 3 should realise that Metsu Shoryuken is a prototype for Shin-Shoryuken. The only possible diiference is that one uses Satsu No Hadou and is designed to kill while the other is very powerful and isn't designed to kill, But can.
Also, take into account that Shin-Shoryu-Ken is used by current Ryu who rivals his Satsu no Hadou counter part in power. So, assuming they are the same move ( Since they pretty much look exactly the same) we could roughly put them in the same power tier. Personally, I would put Metsu Shoryuken a little higher snce it bruns you as a side-effect and is designed to kill.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarclapI am so proud of you!
Can we stop the flames, it's exactly what's killing game versus. I'm guessing that most of us are adults here despite the fact were doing the most un-adult of things I.E. Debating which video game character can defeat who. Do we have to make it worst by swearing and cussin' at each other because we are in disagreement of a such a trivial thing?I swear some of us want to get into fights just because of such small things:
Grown man #1: Man Ryu can totally kill Terry
Grown man #2: Nah mane, Terry never loses and has heart
Grown man #1: Dude, Ryu's like a martial arts master, he know's kung fu n' shit. He'll kill Ryu with one hadouken
Grown man # 2: Nah mane, your fu*kig idiot, terry cannot lose, so, how?
Grown man#1: Dude, Ryu can just jump into space and blow up whatever country Terry's in
Grown man#2: Dude, Terry beat Geese who can controls stroms with his chi and Geese survived a fall from a million feet and came back. . . Dude your dumb if you disagree
Grown man#1: Man who you callin' dumb!
Grown man# 2: You, I'll fu*k you up!
Originally posted by Sado22
if you're talking about tiger versus kooken then I agree. Sagat's regular projectiles seem faster to me than Ryo's.
Hoahshikoken, however, turns the tide in his favor IMO since its really big and really fast, especially the SDM version of it. i know, size isnt everything but when a screen filling projectiles comes like a blur at you, then you have a reason to worry.
No, actually I agree about the hoashishoken. It's a very powerful projectile, but to what degree is unknown.
Originally posted by Sado22
also, true that Sagat has longer reach but Ryo isn't a dumbass either. I alreayd went over Ryo's moves and how they have a fast pick up. all his strongest moves are done with very little pick up time.
Well, that's really more of a Gameplay element than anything. Anyway, my point is that Sagat is much better at keeping/gauging a distance overall when compared to the likes of Ryo.
Originally posted by Sado22
i mentioned this before to people, by the way, that Ryo only mastered the haohshikoken in his fight agasint Takuma. that was the first time he pulled it of or atleast got it right at any rate. even in-game, Takuma remarks that Ryo can only beat him if he masters the "haohken". so either Ryo did a weak version of haoshikoken to King........or he didn't do it to her at all and just ripped her shirt with a koo-ken instead.
either way, the fact that he pwned a hightier of his series (as much as you hate her, King really is one of the high tiers of AoF universe going so far as to stalemate against Robert) with a really weak version of his move speaks for itself. also Ryo was about to kill takuma with the haohshikoken hadn't yuri interfered.
I'm Sorry Sado, this is gonna sound bias, but I don't give fights AOF/FF credibility anymore. Way too much accounts of hero's owning God Tiers for no apparent reason what so ever. The God Tiers in SNK are big joke to me.
Originally posted by Sado22
the ichigekihissatsu is literally a one-hit kill move....as the name suggests.
That sounds like Hyperbole to me, besides Hissastsu Ichi Geki is the japanese warrior maxim. It's more of a philosophy for fighting than anything.
Originally posted by Sado22
Survived his fight against Mr. Big and Takuma, back to back. and it was Mr. Karate and he was going all out. Takuma wasn't holding back since he knew Yuri's life would come to an end were he to lose (lucky for him she managed to escape).
Refer to what I said about fights in SNK.
Originally posted by Sado22
depends which Ryo it is, really.~Sado
I agree, here's my assessment:
Young Ryo loses
Mr. Karate Ryo wins after a tough fight all the way up to current Sagat. He might Stalemate Street Fighter 2 Sagat as well.
Originally posted by shin_remy
go ahead!i'm still right
you and sado supports the characters you like
I tried to keep my cool with this FOOL Emp buy ya know. Listen Rem, It's true I do tend to stick up for the characters that I like, but I do not go around saying Terry wins this and that or any chracater. In case you did not notice, I stated that Ryu vs Terry would be a tie and I am not fond of Ryu...as well as Terry vs Haohamru and you are right about jack.
I can be hot headed, but I would not make a troll statement to agreeing with someone.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I tried to keep my cool with this FOOL Emp buy ya know. Listen Rem, It's true I do tend to stick up for the characters that I like, but I do not go around saying Terry wins this and that or any chracater. In case you did not notice, I stated that Ryu vs Terry would be a tie and I am not fond of Ryu...as well as Terry vs Haohamru and you are right about jack.I can be hot headed, but I would not make a troll statement to agreeing with someone.
okay sorry
peace 😮💨
The one who ran away from Suckassaki? Sagat would kill him. Why the f**k did they even make him all cool & shit if they were gonna bit*h him out ALL the time? Sh*t! Whenever he's not running away like a bit*h ass coward from a character that should never have been created, he's getting beat to death by Terry Bogard. & this is AFTER cheating & becoming "Godtier". WTF!??!?!?!?!
Originally posted by brainchild81
The one who ran away from Suckassaki? Sagat would kill him. Why the f**k did they even make him all cool & shit if they were gonna bit*h him out ALL the time?
Of course Sagat would kill him at that point. The guy just lost against the great one. A Pootang Pie ownage is difficult to recover from.
I bet thats why he lost years later against Terry. He didnt needed a powerup, he needed a psychiatrist.