Cap kills the MU

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok and Cap gets 11 months headstart and he will probably be able to create an item like the cosmic cube and he has information on her..and cap cant counter that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Cube#Overview

A Cosmic Cube is a cube-shaped matrix that holds vast energies that are responsive to the wills of sentient beings. (In The Infinity Crusade, it is revealed that there are other similar objects which have other forms than that of a cube; these objects as a whole are called Cosmic Containment Units.)[B] A sentient being can use a Cosmic Cube to manifest his thoughts as reality, and thus to accomplish virtually anything he or she desires. The nigh-omnipotent Beyonder is actually half of a Cosmic Cube. Sentient beings can create a Cosmic Cube by generating a particular kind of force field which opens a rift into another dimension. A force will slip through the rift which can be collected within a matrix, which the force then (usually) shapes into a perfect cube (like Owen Reece did when he became Molecule Man). This force provides the power of the Cosmic Cube that has thus been created. Eventually, a Cosmic Cube will evolve and develop its own sentience, which is influenced by the minds of the sentient beings which have wielded it. [/B]

I know what the cosmic cube is, when does her month of prep start? If they both start prep at the same time then she could arrange it through her "butterfly effect-like powers" so that he is prevented him from ever achieving anything with the tech he has access to.

Oh wait he gets a prep head start?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

Oh wait he gets a prep head start?

Yeah he gets 11months head start but in all fairness EVERBODY else on MU earth gets a month.

Some possibilities:

1) Scarlet Witch: "There is no Captain America."

2) Sentry chucks him into the sun...

3) World War Hulk pimp slaps him...

4) Black Bolt whispers in his general direction...

I don't see this working in Cap's favor, no matter how much resources or prep...

Originally posted by shksprtx
Some possibilities:

1) Scarlet Witch: "There is no Captain America."

Isnt it possible to get some of her DNA and replicate her powers?

Originally posted by shksprtx

2) Sentry chucks him into the sun...

If Red Skull can use the cosmic cube to get Thor to clean his boots im sure it would work on Sentry

Originally posted by shksprtx

3) World War Hulk pimp slaps him...

Dont think it would be that easy again cosmic cube.

Originally posted by shksprtx

4) Black Bolt whispers in his general direction...

I dont think BB is currently living on earth. At any rate the cosmic cube could take out alot of powerful superheroes in one go.

Originally posted by shksprtx

I don't see this working in Cap's favor, no matter how much resources or prep...

I think he would give them a run for their money.

Originally posted by Alfheim

I think he would give them a run for their money.

Meh...

The Illuminati could give Dr Doom the infinity gauntlet and infinity gems.

Originally posted by shksprtx
Meh...

Well ive already given my reasons. If you dont like them then rebutt. Bare in mind that he has:

1. The combined resources of BOTH shield and Hydra.

2. He is now an expert on Shield and Hydra tech and that appplies to everything not just tech but mystical items they might have as well. He is also as well versed in the tech as he is in fighting.

3. He has inside knowledge. Cap wont know everything about Wakanda and Atlantis but because he is friends of both BP and Namor he would know things other people wont. That just doesnt apply to Wakanda and Atlantis but lots of other heroes as well.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The Illuminati could give Dr Doom the infinity gauntlet and infinity gems.

Well this is the thing. The rules state that opponensts start with standard equipment. Infinity gems are not part of Prof Xs and Namors arsenal, but they could obtain them through prep. The question is will they get the gems before Cap does?

Originally posted by Alfheim

Well this is the thing. The rules state that opponensts start with standard equipment. Infinity gems are not part of Prof Xs and Namors arsenal, but they could obtain them through prep. The question is will they get the gems before Cap does?

Well wouldn't it be since the Illuminati are now in possession of the gems? It's like how when Moondragon possessed the Mind Gem people always had to state whether she was allowed to use it or not.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Well wouldn't it be since the Illuminati are now in possession of the gems? It's like how when Moondragon possessed the Mind Gem people always had to state whether she was allowed to use it or not.

Mmmmmmmmm. I dunno man thats a good point. Look in this case I think im going to disallow it because.

1. We know its not standard equipment.

2. We know at some point there not going to have it anymore. Its like Spiderman and his stingers. There are some issues when he has it, but because its not part of his standard aresnal we dont allow them in vs threads.

In all fairness Cap does have to fight ALOT of people.

*bump*

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Mmmmmmmmm. I dunno man thats a good point. Look in this case I think im going to disallow it because.

1. We know its not standard equipment.

2. We know at some point there not going to have it anymore. Its like Spiderman and his stingers. There are some issues when he has it, but because its not part of his standard aresnal we dont allow them in vs threads.

In all fairness Cap does have to fight ALOT of people.

It is standard equipment.

It's in their arsenal....

😆.

"Cap'll just grab a cosmic cube, or the infinity gems, or..."

With reasoning like that, couldn't we create "Joe Blow vs. Marvel Universe" and claim that he'd grab these artifacts just as easily?

Originally posted by Soljer
😆.

"Cap'll just grab a cosmic cube, or the infinity gems, or..."

With reasoning like that, couldn't we create "Joe Blow vs. Marvel Universe" and claim that he'd grab these artifacts just as easily?

Well I never stated that he could grab the infinity gems pay attention. I stated that its possible that he could create a cosmic cube and these were the reasons:

1. Hes now as skillful at SHIELD and HYDRA tech as he is at fighting. Since hes probably the best tactical ma, that most likely makes him unmatched in his knowledge of both SHIELD and HYDRA tech.
2. HYDRA has had links with AIM for a long time and during the time which they created the cosmic cube.
3. This means they probably have files on the reasearch and experiments they did on the cosmic cube.
4. He has both the resources of SHIELD and HYDRA and is now unmatched in his knowledge of SHIELD and HYDRA tech

There's 6 options:

1- Hulk

2- Thor

3- Juggernaut

4- Dr Strange

5- Dr Doom

6- 4 Fantastic (Mainly Reed Richard)

And we could had Blackbolt to.

Either way, he get his 10 tons class handled by someone in this list.

What about Talisman?

*bump*

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Oh yeah he gets Hydra tech as well. What even after a years prep???? Im pretty sure Cap can come up with some magical artifacts AIM created the cosmic cube you know.

I'm not kidding.

I did leave out the part about Wolverine, Cable and the mandarin whom wound up with the piece of cube.. but still. Marvel Team up Vol3 #19

Doop?

Originally posted by Creshosk
The facility that had the cosmic cube was destroyed when Jubilee made off with the piece of cosmic cube they had...

I'm not kidding.

I did leave out the part about Wolverine, Cable and the mandarin whom wound up with the piece of cube.. but still. Marvel Team up Vol3 #19

Was this in a Hydra base or AIM? Yeah it would be speculation anyway because HYdra are no longer part of AIM and therefore we dont know if they would keep the info that AIM had on the cube. However if he had AIM resources and files he could do it. Got the issue number?

Anyway as far as I know SHIELD do have the Zodiac Key and HYdra do have an occult branch.