U.S. minority population tops 100 million

Started by Schecter15 pages

its a semantics game ffs. let it go. nobody wins

Originally posted by chithappens
Isn't viewing a person as inferior strictly on skin color a form of hatred?

Hatred cannot necessarily be inferred from such beliefs. Not that it's totally unreasonable to assume for most individuals who hold such a belief. But ultimately it is speculating on the contents of one's heart.

Originally posted by Ytse
Or sheer ignorance.

So we're down to "ignorance is bliss" or "we hate what we don't understand"?

Originally posted by Schecter
its a semantics game ffs. let it go. nobody wins
Originally posted by Devil King
Thinking they're less than you because of their race is passive resentment, which sounds a lot like hatred to me.

we have different definitions of hatred then....

Originally posted by Ytse
Hatred cannot necessarily be inferred from such beliefs. Not that it's totally unreasonable to assume for most individuals who hold such a belief. But ultimately it is speculating on the contents of one's heart.

Originally posted by chithappens
eth·no·cen·trism

–noun
1. Sociology. the belief in the inherent superiority of one's own ethnic group or culture.

If you put this definition into ANY form of application, it is clear that it is hatred.

Give any example where it is not hatred.

Originally posted by chithappens
Give any example where it is not hatred.

I've referenced David Hume a lot on these forums so I'll use him again:

"I am apt to suspect the Negroes to be naturally inferior to the Whites. There scarcely ever was a civilised nation of that complexion, nor even any individual, eminent either in action or in speculation. No ingenious manufacture among them, no arts, no sciences"

There's nothing in that statement to imply that such a belief was borne of hatred.

Originally posted by Ytse
I've referenced David Hume a lot on these forums so I'll use him again:

"I am apt to suspect the Negroes to be naturally inferior to the Whites. There scarcely ever was a civilised nation of that complexion, nor even any individual, eminent either in action or in speculation. No ingenious manufacture among them, no arts, no sciences"

There's nothing in that statement to imply that such a belief was borne of hatred.

It sounds like hatred to me. Hatred blinds people, and that statement was blind to the true facts.

Originally posted by Ytse
I've referenced David Hume a lot on these forums so I'll use him again:

"I am apt to suspect the Negroes to be naturally inferior to the Whites. There scarcely ever was a civilised nation of that complexion, nor even any individual, eminent either in action or in speculation. No ingenious manufacture among them, no arts, no sciences"

There's nothing in that statement to imply that such a belief was borne of hatred.

Are you kidding me?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It sounds like hatred to me. Hatred blinds people, and that statement was blind to the true facts.

I don't quite understand how you're reaching that conclusion. There are plenty of reasons people fail to achieve "true facts." Why do you say it's hatred in this case?

i just hate you all right now

Originally posted by Devil King
Are you kidding me?

That must be your catchphrase...

Originally posted by Ytse
I don't quite understand how you're reaching that conclusion. There are plenty of reasons people fail to achieve "true facts." Why do you say it's hatred in this case?

Think about how what he said would effect a black person. It is a well crafted evil remark.

Originally posted by David Hume
Negroes
Originally posted by David Hume
naturally inferior to the Whites.
Originally posted by David Hume
scarcely ever civilised
Originally posted by David Hume
no arts
Originally posted by David Hume
no sciences

A guy who says this is someone you want to emulate?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Think about how what he said would effect a black person. It is a well crafted evil remark.

It's quite obvious it would be painful to hear such a thing. But you're ignoring my question restating your own speculation.

There are plenty of reasons people fail to achieve "true facts." Why do you say it's hatred in this case?

Originally posted by Devil King
A guy who says this is someone you want to emulate?

Did I really give that impression? I find Hume's writings to be very important and interesting but that doesn't mean I want to model my life after him by any means.

you're all playing a semantics game. please stop failing

capt and shak's definition of hate: dislike of a group/wishing to feel superior

Ytse's definition: I HATE YOU!!! ****ING DIE DIE DIE DIE

its a relative word

Originally posted by Ytse
It's quite obvious it would be painful to hear such a thing. But you're ignoring my question restating your own speculation.

There are plenty of reasons people fail to achieve "true facts." Why do you say it's hatred in this case?

It is obvious, and I did not ignore your question. Are you a bigot?

Originally posted by Schecter
you're all playing a semantics game. please stop failing

capt and shak's definition of hate: dislike of a group/wishing to feel superior

Ytse's definition: I HATE YOU!!! ****ING DIE DIE DIE DIE

its a relative word

You are correct. Thank you for clarifying that.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is obvious, and I did not ignore your question.

Yes...you did. I asked how you came to the conclusion that his position was spawned of hatred and you said "well, because its an evil remark." It's hatred because it's hatred is begging the question.

Are you a bigot?

Wow, I kind of take offense to that. Of course not. Absolutely not. For a few years of my life my only father figure was a black man.