Originally posted by braz
Wolverine can heal from virtually anything, true. But that still doesnt stop him from being KO'ed by Venom and thats an option for this gauntlet, and with Venoms strength which I would say is sufficient(Class 10+) for Classic version, he could do that.
And I think Venom could KO Wolverine before Wolverine could kill or KO Venom.
5 would be an interesting fight.
Spiderman+venom symbiote versus Brock with symbiote.
Now while brock was able to more fully bond with the symbiote, Spiderman still has a higer base ability set for the symbiote to work with.
Originally posted by brazEh, Wolverine has proven pretty tough to KO when fully rested.
Wolverine can heal from virtually anything, true. But that still doesnt stop him from being KO'ed by Venom and thats an option for this gauntlet, and with Venoms strength which I would say is sufficient(Class 10+) for Classic version, he could do that.
Originally posted by Creshosk
5 would be an interesting fight.Spiderman+venom symbiote versus Brock with symbiote.
Now while brock was able to more fully bond with the symbiote, Spiderman still has a higer base ability set for the symbiote to work with.
Eh, Wolverine has proven pretty tough to KO when fully rested.
Yeah, they actually fought like that in the comics once where Spidey had the symbiote too, and Venom surprisingly won, and KO'ed Spidey. Because doesnt the symbiote even further enhance Spidey's(Classic Spidey) abilities..? To say...I believe someone said it grants him from class 10 strength to class 25. Is that true..? Cuz if it is, then Venom should've lost, or hes just damn good.
Originally posted by llagrokVenom just has to KO Logan. Not kill him.
That's what the symbiote does, it bonds to things. It tried bonding to Wolverine and it failed. Removing a limb and damaging his organs won't kill, hasn't done since the 80s.Venom's not strong enough to rip Wolverine in half or anything. Brock Venom was pretty weak compared to the current one, so I say Wolverine takes this.
Even if he did kill Wolverine, all he does is fight Lazaer and come right back 🙂
Venom doesn't need to rip Wolverine in half. If it wasn't for Logan's adamantium skeleton, he could with ease.
Prior to multiple upgrades, Brock Venom chucked a van across an island with one hand, IIRC.
After multiple upgrades, he was easily in the class 80s.
He's also faster, and has better ranged attacks then Logan.
He would beat Wolverine down with ease.
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Venom just has to KO Logan. Not kill him.Venom doesn't need to rip Wolverine in half. If it wasn't for Logan's adamantium skeleton, he could with ease.
Prior to multiple upgrades, Brock Venom chucked a van across an island with one hand, IIRC.
After multiple upgrades, he was easily in the class 80s.
He's also faster, and has better ranged attacks then Logan.
He would beat Wolverine down with ease.
Wait, Brock? In the class 80's..?? 😱 Holycrap is this current or what?
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Towards the end of his career he was, IIRC.
Oh ok, well I dont wanna use that version of Venom, just the Classic Eddie Brock thats like around 11 ton strength and slightly stronger than Classic Spidey. Geese, all these characters getting upgrades in strength-almost makes them kinda godlike and it's kind of annoying, why cant they just keep it as the original? 🙁
Originally posted by llagrok
Venom tried to bond, it failed.If you can't kill Wolverine by reducing him to a skeleton, I fail to see how Venom plans on doing it.
It was Venom's clone with an old lady as a host and Wolverine still couldn't hurt it, even though the clone wasn't really trying to fight back. And it didn't fail anything, it bonded to Wolverine later.
Also Eddie Brock Venom is both stronger and more durable than current Venom. And Venom has lots of options to take Logan down.
Originally posted by Sam Z
It was Venom's clone with an old lady as a host and Wolverine still couldn't hurt it, even though the clone wasn't really trying to fight back. And it didn't fail anything, it bonded to Wolverine later.
Also Eddie Brock Venom is both stronger and more durable than current Venom. And Venom has lots of options to take Logan down.
Was that in the Run series?
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Venom just has to KO Logan. Not kill him.Venom doesn't need to rip Wolverine in half. If it wasn't for Logan's adamantium skeleton, he could with ease.
Prior to multiple upgrades, Brock Venom chucked a van across an island with one hand, IIRC.
After multiple upgrades, he was easily in the class 80s.
He's also faster, and has better ranged attacks then Logan.
He would beat Wolverine down with ease.
Class 80...I wouldn't go that far class 50 at the very most.
Venom's suit was compared to be as strong as Thing by Spiderman in the Marvel Knights Venomous story line.
Venom was well within the 30 to 40 ton range well before he had multiple upgrades.. he lifted an enormouns bulldozer over his head.
And the clone Venom was actually more threatening than regular Venom.. Simply because it didn't need a host to survive, or be mobile. It was fighting back.. In fact it started the fight by slamming Wolverine into the ground, and it was chokig wolverine there after... Wolverine just started clawing and bouncing around all over the place... he even scored a head shot on Venom 2.0 which would have downed Brock for sure.
Normally, I'd venture to say that Venom in character would lose to Wolverine.. But he has thirty minutes to prep this out and he's smart as hell.... He broke out of the vault and organized a successful strike against not one but two large superhero teams. I'd say that Venom makes it to the preds before he starts having problems..
If he gets past them, then Tony stops him.
Originally posted by jinzin
Venom's suit was compared to be as strong as Thing by Spiderman in the Marvel Knights Venomous story line.
Venom was well within the 30 to 40 ton range well before he had multiple upgrades.. he lifted an enormouns bulldozer over his head.
And the clone Venom was actually more threatening than regular Venom.. Simply because it didn't need a host to survive, or be mobile. It was fighting back.. In fact it started the fight by slamming Wolverine into the ground, and it was chokig wolverine there after... Wolverine just started clawing and bouncing around all over the place... he even scored a head shot on Venom 2.0 which would have downed Brock for sure.Normally, I'd venture to say that Venom in character would lose to Wolverine.. But he has thirty minutes to prep this out and he's smart as hell.... He broke out of the vault and organized a successful strike against not one but two large superhero teams. I'd say that Venom makes it to the preds before he starts having problems..
If he gets past them, then Tony stops him.
Yup. The Lethal Protector is more than a match for everyone up until he meets the predators. Predators have too much tech on-hand; inevitably some of those involve fire, possibly sonics.
Iron Man however would take down eddie.
What's important to recall in this gauntlet is that the symbiote allows brock to be more versatile than most others...exceptions that come to my mind are symbiote/secret wars spider-man, iron man, and perhaps the predators. with the symbiote brock can basically render himself invisible to the naked eye as the symbiote is able to blend into its environment/shadows/assume different appearances and clothing. with 30 min prep he can easily use all these abilities to his advantage, in addition to using the symbiote to attack from afar, etc. wolverine nullifies these advantages through his senses, but as already posted venom can get the ko and advance...he doesn't have to kill wolverine.
Originally posted by Sam Z
It was Venom's clone with an old lady as a host and Wolverine still couldn't hurt it, even though the clone wasn't really trying to fight back. And it didn't fail anything, it bonded to Wolverine later.
Also Eddie Brock Venom is both stronger and more durable than current Venom. And Venom has lots of options to take Logan down.
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Stronger than the current venom
Originally posted by llagrokI don't need people's opinion on this. I just know it because of his feats. What did Gargan do? Got koed with a WALL. That's really pathetic. Brock Venom is MUCH more durable and as for actual physical strength, Brock-Venom could destroy tanks with his punches. And do something class 80 Rhino couldn't. He KOed Peter with a single punch more than on one ocasion. Well, also he kicks Carnage ass all the time (who's said to be stronger)
Venom's strength around the time Eddie slit his wrists was pretty pathetic. I still say Mac Venom is far stronger. Make it a thread and see what the people say.
Originally posted by jinzin
Venom's suit was compared to be as strong as Thing by Spiderman in the Marvel Knights Venomous story line.
Venom was well within the 30 to 40 ton range well before he had multiple upgrades.. he lifted an enormouns bulldozer over his head.
And the clone Venom was actually more threatening than regular Venom.. Simply because it didn't need a host to survive, or be mobile. It was fighting back.. In fact it started the fight by slamming Wolverine into the ground, and it was chokig wolverine there after... Wolverine just started clawing and bouncing around all over the place... he even scored a head shot on Venom 2.0 which would have downed Brock for sure.Normally, I'd venture to say that Venom in character would lose to Wolverine.. But he has thirty minutes to prep this out and he's smart as hell.... He broke out of the vault and organized a successful strike against not one but two large superhero teams. I'd say that Venom makes it to the preds before he starts having problems..
If he gets past them, then Tony stops him.
So ur saying Wolverine>>Eddie Brock?? 🤨