Witch burning thread.

Originally posted by debbiejo
As far as witch burning in early American history it was brought on by religious fanatics or in one case three lying girls. One way to tell if a witch was telling the truth was to tie them up and throw them in water with stones tried on them. If they lived they were guilty, if they sank they were telling the truth of not being a witch. Damned if you do and damed if you don't.

Actually someone higher up caught the problem with that and it was banned as a valid test of witchcraft if memory serves.

It was a very misunderstood and superstitious time. Even werewolves were thought to be running around. If a person had scares then it was a sign to the church that at night the scares were because they had turned into werewolves and got scrars from running through the woods, and so to find out the church would cut their limbs off to see if there was hair beneath their skin. Oh course they died. Bled to death.

And how do you know that she is a witch?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I believe not in Wicca. I challenge anyone who claims to practice Wicca to show me a magic trick. A spell, if you will. Don't curse me, just show me it is real.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why does that not apply to Christianity?

As for christianity, this thread is not about christianity, it's about Wicca. If you want to discuss christianity, I suggest pming JIA or visiting the religion forum.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I gotta say, if I ever make the FBI's top ten wanted list, I hope you are not the director. I wouldn't last ten minutes, as much as you seek me out.

As for christianity, this thread is not about christianity, it's about Wicca. If you want to discuss christianity, I suggest pming JIA or visiting the religion forum.

No, I'm just saying you apply different standards to different religions...

I don't pick on you, you just started to say ridiculous things again.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, I'm just saying you apply different standards to different religions...

I don't pick on you, you just started to say ridiculous things again.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you pick on everyone here, I don't feel special. Wicca as a religion? fine, to each their own. As far as brewing spells and shit, it's all crap. If someone wants to worship mother earth, i respect that, but I don't buy into the whole mystical energy that someone can wield and claim to be a witch. I knew a Wiccan once and I dared them to show me a spell, something simple, ans they couldn't. Then I asked their mother, who was a lifelong wiccan, to show me a spell, and she refused. What does that tell you? I tell you what it tells me......C R A P O L A. But hey, if they believe in it, more power to them.

The same would apply to Christianity.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you pick on everyone here

That's incorrect. I don't "pick" on anyone.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I don't feel special. Wicca as a religion? fine, to each their own. As far as brewing spells and shit, it's all crap. If someone wants to worship mother earth, i respect that, but I don't buy into the whole mystical energy that someone can wield and claim to be a witch. I knew a Wiccan once and I dared them to show me a spell, something simple, ans they couldn't. Then I asked their mother, who was a lifelong wiccan, to show me a spell, and she refused. What does that tell you? I tell you what it tells me......C R A P O L A. But hey, if they believe in it, more power to them.

Hey, I agree with you, just saying that the exact same things apply to your faith. Which is odd.

Originally posted by Fishy
The same would apply to Christianity.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
otra vez.....read the previous posts, will ya?

Which one? The one where you said this is off topic? If so you are right, but the point still stands. If the other one, then huh? I don't follow how that proves anything.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's incorrect. I don't "pick" on anyone.

Hey, I agree with you, just saying that the exact same things apply to your faith. Which is odd.

I believe in God, so "More power to me."

You do not believe in god, so "more power to you."

clear enough?

All religions crumble when the slightest bit of logic is applied.

End of story.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And I said "if they believe in it, more power to them."

I believe in God, so "More power to me."

You do not believe in god, so "more power to you."

clear enough?

Yes, I just feel the "Prove your Religion" when it comes to other Religions is unfair. Not busting your balls, just saying.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, I just feel the "Prove your Religion" when it comes to other Religions is unfair. Not busting your balls, just saying.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am not asking them to prove it to prove it exists, it's fairly obvious the religion exists. I am merely saying that I need to see someone do a wiccan spell before I buy into it. The religion? I acknowledge it is there. The magic part? I need to see it.

Of course I meant that you want them to prove their Religion is true.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Of course I meant that you want them to prove their Religion is true.

I don't know how to be any clearer about this.

Well trying to apply logic to faith never turns out to good.

Originally posted by Magee
Well trying to apply logic to faith never turns out to good.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Reading on witch being burn along time ago.I had read that most of the witches who were burn was not witches to begin with.Do you think they were not or were?
It was also interesting for the unfair trails they had put these woman and I think some man through.Any thoughts on this part of history?jm

The witch burning happened b/c SOME witches at that time were using their power against the king, I forgot which one, but this has happened before, and it's documented in their records, so this is something that most of the high courts know about when dealing with the other "powes that be", as this isn't the first time people skilled in the craft tried to use it on their own king or queen. See, when people work with energy (and witches work with energy), these things can be found out, as the king at the time had his own Merlins/Magicians/wisemen/chancellors/councils in his court to gaurd him outside of the regular security guards to prevent physical enterence or interferences, and yes, they found out and the witch hunts began, before then, they didn't care about religion, people did what they wanted, but when things would go amok, they would start to crack down on things.

There is some documentation online talking about the witches who were accused of using their works against the king (that was the main deal, it was never about the fact they were witches, hence the reason why they were still allowed to do their thing, their king just wanted to send them a message, it's a gross and mean one, no doubt, but wanted to let them know don't use your powers against me or we will find out and burn you up...that was the message).

plenty of documentation that shows that england and the rest of europe was tolerant of pagan faith, jews and moors...but when any of them were accused of using dark forces to conjure up disease, plot against the king (who cares about the neighbors), etc., they were either expelled or hacked to death or burned alive.

"a witch tried to poison King James and his wife. When King James had the Bible translated from it's original Greek and Hebrew (new and Old Testament respectively) into the old English Bible we know today as the King James Version, he changed, added, and dropped a few passages. One of those passages that King James added was "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" Exodus 22:18.
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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/224510/the_history_of_witch_trials.html