Who, In Marvel, Can Defeat the All-Father?

Started by His Airness5 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
These analogies I don't agree with,

it's simple, a Living Galaxy has Stellar Energies Billions upon Billion of Suns/Stars,

a Dead Galaxy does not.

If you disagree, fine.

I have an analogy.

Would it be harder to blow up a building full of bombs, or one without bombs?

Originally posted by His Airness
I have an analogy.

Would it be harder to blow up a building full of bombs, or one without bombs?

These analogies don't correspond to the feat that needs to be accomplished.

There are 100s of Billions of Stars in a single Galaxy.

Destroying that is the hard part, actually not just destroying it,

but actually consuming, utterly obliterating it's energies into nothingness.

This is what kills a Galaxy, this is what can kill life in a Universe.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Common sense?

So your common sense tells you that if for some reason there was no life on earth, then it would be much easier to destroy than if there was life on it?

Originally posted by Mr Master
These analogies don't correspond to the feat that needs to be accomplished.

There are 100s of Billions of Stars in a single Galaxy.

Destroying that is the hard part, actually not just destroying it,

but actually consuming, utterly obliterating it's energies into nothingness.

This is what kills a Galaxy, this is what can kill life in a Universe.

You can't obliterate energy or matter into nothingness, it'd still be there. Dead or living galaxy.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
So your common sense tells you that if for some reason there was no life on earth, then it would be much easier to destroy than if there was life on it?
It's a dead galaxy, meaning that there should be no core in the planets...

Also, shouldn't a dead galaxy, essentially have no stars in it, either they are blown up, or they reverted into tightly dense balls?

Also, either way, that little story involving Odin/Seth, is kind of pis if you look at it.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
It's a dead galaxy, meaning that there should be no core in the planets...

Also, shouldn't a dead galaxy, essentially have no stars in it, either they are blown up, or they reverted into tightly dense balls?

Also, either way, that little story involving Odin/Seth, is kind of pis if you look at it.

Nothings PIS if Stan Lee wrote it. ✅

Originally posted by Endless Mike
So your common sense tells you that if for some reason there was no life on earth, then it would be much easier to destroy than if there was life on it?

No,

my common sense tells me if the Earth itself is without life,

then yes it would be much easier to destroy it.

And what is the life force of a Planet like Earth?

GEOTHERMAL ENERGY

Our earth's interior - like the sun - provides heat energy from nature. This heat - geothermal energy - yields warmth and power to volcanic activity and other intricacies of the ecosystem and elemental forces of nature likewise that keep the Earth sustained.

Geothermal heat originates from Earth's fiery consolidation of dust and gas over 4 billion years ago. At earth's core - 4,000 miles deep - temperatures may reach over 9,000 degrees F.

Without this Energy, Earth or any Planet dies, and shribbles up gradually.

Originally posted by His Airness
Nothings PIS if Stan Lee wrote it. ✅
Stan said that he would write Hulk beating Superman...

Originally posted by Creshosk
You can't obliterate energy or matter into nothingness, it'd still be there. Dead or living galaxy.

If there is energy in a Galaxy, it's not dead.

When all the Stars go out in a Galaxy, it's officially "Dead"

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
It's a dead galaxy, meaning that there should be no core in the planets...

Also, shouldn't a dead galaxy, essentially have no stars in it, either they are blown up, or they reverted into tightly dense balls?

Exactly.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Also, either way, that little story involving Odin/Seth, is kind of pis if you look at it.

I agree.

Geothermal energy comes from the pressure and magnetic field at the core of the earth.

It doesn't have anything to do with life.

Nothing can even survive down at the core of the earth, so what that would possibly have to do with the earth being "dead" I can't imagine.

Besides, what determines the energy required to destroy a planet is gravity, if a planet has more mass then its own gravity holds it together stronger, so it's stronger to destroy. That's called gravitational binding energy.

The mass of the earth gives it a GBE of around 2.4e32j, which would be the same whether or not earth had life on it.

Stars aren't alive either, so why would the stars have to be destroyed for a galaxy to be considered dead?

Originally posted by Mr Master
If there is energy in a Galaxy, it's not dead.

When all the Stars go out in a Galaxy, it's officially "Dead"

I don't think you get my point.

You're blatently exagerating the difficulty by saying you need to obliterate the energy into nothingness. You can't do that and that was never a requirement to destroy a galaxy. mearely the coporeal disintigrashion of the bonds of the majority of the subject.

Earth would be destroyed if you blew it into asteroids, would it not? But there would be astroids left behind.

And you seem to knot want to grasp the concept of utilizing the resources available to you in the destruction goal. If you harness the power of the stars to help you obliterate the surrounding area it require less energy on your part to destroy said area. You attack and detonate a star not only is the star destroyed but anything within the explosion would also be taken out. Where as without the star you have to take out the surronding things by yourself one at a time.

As if anyone has the slighest idea of whats needed to destroy a Galaxy, the amount of energy would be insane. Also wouldnt it take thousands of years to destroy a galaxy...

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Geothermal energy comes from the pressure and magnetic field at the core of the earth.

It doesn't have anything to do with life.

Nothing can even survive down at the core of the earth, so what that would possibly have to do with the earth being "dead" I can't imagine.

Imagine Life on the surface then,

which it has everything to do with.

Without those Geothermal Energies, the Earth cannot support itself or life on it's surface.

🙂

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Besides, what determines the energy required to destroy a planet is gravity, if a planet has more mass then its own gravity holds it together stronger, so it's stronger to destroy. That's called gravitational binding energy.

The mass of the earth gives it a GBE of around 2.4e32j, which would be the same whether or not earth had life on it.

Stars aren't alive either, so why would the stars have to be destroyed for a galaxy to be considered dead?

I wasn't talking about what's required to destroy a Planet.

I simply pointed out what Scientists consider to be the life-force of a Planet.

That being, Geothermal energy.

Originally posted by Magee
As if anyone has the slighest idea of whats needed to destroy a Galaxy, the amount of energy would be insane. Also wouldnt it take thousands of years to destroy a galaxy...

Well if you're limited by the speed of light.

Odin has shown he's not.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Imagine Life on the surface then,

which it has everything to do with.

Without those Geothermal Energies, the Earth cannot support itself or life on it's surface.

🙂

Most of the energy used for life on earth comes from the sun.

I wasn't talking about what's required to destroy a Planet.

I simply pointed out what Scientists consider to be the life-force of a Planet.

That being, Geothermal energy.

Except geothermal energy is only used by creatures in places where sunlight isn't available, like the bottom of the ocean or deep underground.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I don't think you get my point.

You're blatently exagerating the difficulty by saying you need to obliterate the energy into nothingness. You can't do that and that was never a requirement to destroy a galaxy. mearely the coporeal disintigrashion of the bonds of the majority of the subject.

Earth would be destroyed if you blew it into asteroids, would it not? But there would be astroids left behind.

[QUOTE=8955594]Originally posted by Creshosk
[B] And you seem to knot want to grasp the concept of utilizing the resources available to you in the destruction goal. If you harness the power of the stars to help you obliterate the surrounding area it require less energy on your part to destroy said area. You attack and detonate a star not only is the star destroyed but anything within the explosion would also be taken out. Where as without the star you have to take out the surronding things by yourself one at a time.

You will never convince me,

that a dead Galaxy, which has No Stars, and No active Planets,

is harder to destroy,

than a Galaxy with 100's of Billions of Stars and Billions upon Billions of Active Planets.

The analogy of destroying Stars to take out more territory would require the power to destroy Star after Star, until 300 Billion or more have been destroyed, to take out one Galaxy.

It's easy to say,

"You detonate a star not only is the star destroyed but anything within the explosion would also be taken out"

But you have to have the power to take out those Stars.

Easier said than done.

A galaxy with no planets or stars has nothing to destroy.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Most of the energy used for life on earth comes from the sun.

I said that before.

Without Stars there is no Life in a Galaxy, hence a "Dead Galaxy" is produced.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Except geothermal energy is only used by creatures in places where sunlight isn't available, like the bottom of the ocean or deep underground.

Geothermal Energy sustains not only the Earth, but most aspects of Life on Earth.

http://geothermal.marin.org/pwrheat.html#Q2

The Sun sustains those Geothermal Energies, although every Planet has it's limits.

Originally posted by Magee
A galaxy with no planets or stars has nothing to destroy.

Gases, dust, space debris and shrinking dead Planets.

Then again,

they were, "Long dead Galaxies'

so perhaps by that time they were basically empty.