Originally posted by Big Sexy
Isn't the number based on the symbol for a king during the years when Christian's were persecuted because of their faith. Its more in the line of a writer being influenced by current events than the 100 % word of GOD.
666 does correspond to the name NeronCaesar but then again research seems to show that the number is really 616.
Revelation: The Mark
The main passage in the Bible that mentions the "mark of the beast" is Revelation 13:15-18;
"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six" (Revelation 13:15-18 KJV).
Other references can be found in Revelation 14:9,11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4. This mark acts as a "seal" for the followers of antichrist and the false prophet (the spokesperson for the antichrist). The false prophet (the second beast) is the one who causes people to take this mark. The mark is literally placed in the hand or forehead, and is not simply a card someone carries.
The recent breakthroughs in medical implant chip technologies have increased interest in the "mark of the beast" spoken of in Revelation chapter 13. Here are some very interesting articles on the recent technological developments:
Implantable Medical ID Approved By FDA
Microchips Implanted in Mexican Officials
Is it likely that the technology we are seeing today represents the beginning stages of what may eventually be used as the "mark of the beast."
It is important for us to realize that a medical implant chip is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be something given only to those who worship the antichrist. Having a medical or financial microchip inserted into your right hand or forehead is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be an end times "mark" required by the antichrist to buy or sell and will be given only to those who worship the antichrist.
Many good expositors of Revelation have differed widely as to what exactly the mark of the beast is. Besides the "ID card" view, others have speculated that it is a microchip, a barcode that is tattooed into the skin, or simply a mark that identifies someone as being faithful to the antichrist's kingdom. This last view requires the least speculation, since it does not add any more information to what the Bible gives us. In other words, any of these things are possible, but at the same time they are all speculations, so we will just have to see how it turns out. We shouldn't spend a lot of time speculating on the details that go further than the Bible goes.
The meaning of 666 is a mystery as well. Recently, many people speculated that there was a connection to June 6, 2006—06/06/06. However, in Revelation chapter 13, the number 666 identifies a person, not a date. Revelation 13:18 tells us, "This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666." Somehow, the number 666 will identify the antichrist. For centuries Bible interpreters have been trying to identify certain individuals with 666. Nothing is conclusive. That is why Revelation 13:18 says the number requires wisdom. When the antichrist is revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), it will be clear who he is and how the number 666 identifies him.
With all in mind, what you do think?
Originally posted by ushomefree
Oh okay... well, without "Nero," (in the right hand or forehead) you will not be able to buy or sell goods. Obviously Shakyamunison, Scripture must be making reference to something else. Don't you think?
What does the right hand and forehead mean? Remember it is a code book. Without permission from Rome no one could trade. How did Rome give their permission?
Originally posted by Shakyamunisoninteresting you say code, because it could be 999. im sure dan brown could find a whole bunch of evidence indicating something else. and if anything id trust the code in the torah rather than the bible
What does the right hand and forehead mean? Remember it is a code book. Without permission from Rome no one could trade. How did Rome give their permission?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think the book of Revelation, in the bible, was an anti-Roman propaganda code book.
Not to mention it was written by people who believed Jesus would return during their lifetime.
Jesus is like a dad that left to buy a pack of smokes and never came back and you find out years later that he has a second family in Arizona.
Re: Revelation: The Mark
Originally posted by ushomefreeLol, I remember reading JIA's version of this right before joining KMC (thus my username 😂). He was a lot more preachy though. I personally don't see any sin in the usage of 666 as a number, and I think the Bible usually represents meanings with numbers (especially Revelations and Hebrews).
The main passage in the Bible that mentions the "mark of the beast" is Revelation 13:15-18;"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six" (Revelation 13:15-18 KJV).
Other references can be found in Revelation 14:9,11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4. This mark acts as a "seal" for the followers of antichrist and the false prophet (the spokesperson for the antichrist). The false prophet (the second beast) is the one who causes people to take this mark. The mark is literally placed in the hand or forehead, and is not simply a card someone carries.
The recent breakthroughs in medical implant chip technologies have increased interest in the "mark of the beast" spoken of in Revelation chapter 13. Here are some very interesting articles on the recent technological developments:
Implantable Medical ID Approved By FDA
Microchips Implanted in Mexican Officials
Is it likely that the technology we are seeing today represents the beginning stages of what may eventually be used as the "mark of the beast."
It is important for us to realize that a medical implant chip is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be something given only to those who worship the antichrist. Having a medical or financial microchip inserted into your right hand or forehead is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be an end times "mark" required by the antichrist to buy or sell and will be given only to those who worship the antichrist.
Many good expositors of Revelation have differed widely as to what exactly the mark of the beast is. Besides the "ID card" view, others have speculated that it is a microchip, a barcode that is tattooed into the skin, or simply a mark that identifies someone as being faithful to the antichrist's kingdom. This last view requires the least speculation, since it does not add any more information to what the Bible gives us. In other words, any of these things are possible, but at the same time they are all speculations, so we will just have to see how it turns out. We shouldn't spend a lot of time speculating on the details that go further than the Bible goes.
The meaning of 666 is a mystery as well. Recently, many people speculated that there was a connection to June 6, 2006—06/06/06. However, in Revelation chapter 13, the number 666 identifies a person, not a date. Revelation 13:18 tells us, "This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666." Somehow, the number 666 will identify the antichrist. For centuries Bible interpreters have been trying to identify certain individuals with 666. Nothing is conclusive. That is why Revelation 13:18 says the number requires wisdom. When the antichrist is revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), it will be clear who he is and how the number 666 identifies him.
With all in mind, what you do think?
Re: Re: Revelation: The Mark
Originally posted by Quark_666ive got 50 bucks ridin that they are the exact same guy.
Lol, I remember reading JIA's version of this right before joining KMC (thus my username 😂). He was a lot more preachy though. I personally don't see any sin in the usage of 666 as a number, and I think the Bible usually represents meanings with numbers (especially Revelations and Hebrews).