Re: The Great Escape
Originally posted by Dusty
This film was incredible! Has anyone else seen it? Your thoughts?
watching it today is painfull. propaganda like dialogue...bad american actors playing Germans...Unauthentic costumes...i mean the lsit goes on. I'm sure for its day it was an astounding and powerfull piece of cinema, but today its dated and pathetic
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Any movie from that time is alot better then movies today.You have to admit to that!I mean come on those are actors back then!What movie could you possibly like alot better then "The Great Escape"jm
Are you fukcing kidding me? I dont agree with that junk that actors arent what they used to be. That the Golden age of Hollywood is the only age in where good quality acting is found. Though actors from that time were un arguably very fine actors I believe modern actors have more diversity and depth. Granted the actors from the "Golden age" had cleaner and more fluffy scripts, which in effect didnt give them much to work with. i still believe actors today are much more finely attuned in their art, However this is due to the ground work that the greats have set.
There are many great films from times long ago that are more well rounded and solid than many films today standing the test of time through the acting writing and directing, but i do not think the great escape is one of these films. Time has degraded the dialogue and production to nothing more than humorous.
I kid you not.How can you compare Ford with Boghart or with a now a day actor with Steve Mcqueen?The actors are so much better.Back then you had to learn how to dance act and sing.
Now you get into movies because of good looks and not of good talent.
Well maybe sometimes but not alot of times.I can't believe you can not see how it is now a days.JM
Clearly, the movies, the scripts , the directors and the actors were better yesterday than now. Compare an actual director or actor with hitchock, welles, ford, chaplin, bogart, olivier, guiness, maqueen, douglas, lancaster, tracy, grant, stewart, fonda, davis, both hepburns, bergman, and a long etc.
The movies were better, the stories were betters, the directors were better and the actors were better. Surely, there are great stuff today and very talented people, but not so many as in the golden age.
One of the main problems are the special effects and the blockbusters. The little films with great quality about human and realistic stories are snubbed for the blockbusters, stupid movies with a lot of digital effects and a lot of bad performances and terrible scripts. But most of the people today are only interested in explosions and fantastic creatures , not about real movies.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I kid you not.How can you compare Ford with Boghart or with a now a day actor with Steve Mcqueen?The actors are so much better.Back then you had to learn how to dance act and sing.
Now you get into movies because of good looks and not of good talent.
Well maybe sometimes but not alot of times.I can't believe you can not see how it is now a days.JM
I wouldn't call Bogart nor McQueen diverse actors, great yes but not diverse. Ford is a very biased comparison to pitch in.
Alot of them were classicly trained, and the majority of British actors had alot of work on the stage; it's almost incomparable.
Certainly I'd think that Robert De Niro in his day could hold his own with Bogart on screen, or even(although I despise the thought) Russel Crowe with Kirk Doulgas.
The only difference nowadays is that the films themselves are different, they aim for a wider audience, and have to accomodate all that suggests in their films. I think Ralph Fienns does a better job at what he does in The Constant Gardener, but I think James Garner does better at what he does in The Great Escape. It's almost incomparable.