Originally posted by -K-M-appeal to majority is not a strong leg to stand on
Uh huh, yet majority of the board seems to agree with my interpretations and I have been called very fair with my comments and stances while you?...well your credibility is for the better part well...non-existant.
neither is resorting to ad hominem attacks
and I disagree with you about my credibility
Originally posted by Starscream M
appeal to majority is not a strong leg to stand onneither is resorting to ad hominem attacks
and I disagree with you about my credibility
Oh yes the more respected and the most knowledgable members on this board agree with my stances, yet somehow in your mind that's a crutch? Sure they validate what I say, but let's ignore that little detail eh bruce?
Shall I bring up the instances of you blantly taking things out of context?
Make a thread and see what people say then
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Ok, I went back through and I still don't see what you see. Walter tackles Juggernaut twice, the second time after Juggernaut apparently stops fighting. Walter proceeds to beat on Juggernaut while Juggernaut is laying on the ground clearly not fighting back because he's hurt Sammy's feelings.
Here Walter has him on the ground after a big hit and was going to lay more into him and then Guardian/Vindicator for the first time tell him to stop. He hit Sas temporally away when Guardian/Vindicator told him to stop then the duo breifly clashed with him without even unleashing one single energy attack, and then soon after Walter tackles him and hits him, which Guardian/Vindicator tell him to stop for the second time as he gave up. These scans are of the first time they tell him to stop. Juggernaut was not dominating anything.
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UXM-22-23.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uncanny_x-men_433_p05-06.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uncanny_x-men_433_p07.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uncanny_x-men_433_p08.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uncanny_x-men_433_p14.jpg
6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uncanny_x-men_433_p15b.jpg
This is when the duo step in and Walter returns and Northstar comments he was only gone a minute and this is when he fully gave up. Not once in this fight was he dominating Sasquatch, and he hit Guardian which was right back up with no real damage *second patch of scans start off right after he hits Guardian.
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uncanny_x-men_433_p16b.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Uncanny_X-Men_434_Pyrate_07.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Uncanny_X-Men_434_Pyrate_08.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Uncanny_X-Men_434_Pyrate_09.jpg
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I just went through all those scans. Your bias for canadian characters has clearly blinded you. What I said in my post is exactly what happened. Walter bum rushes Juggernaut twice. The second time Juggernaut does nothing in retaliation. Walter took advantage of a man who had clearly given up.
and I think you missed the entire point as I said the exact same thing what happened, but earlier you said.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Any version of Juggernaut wins. Depowered was handing it to 3 members of AF (incl. Sas) in Hulkbuster armor. He didn't win the fight because he stopped fighting.
Where was he handing it to them? let alone Sasquatch? As he basically had the advantage the entire fight sans the cheap shot when his back was turned.
Originally posted by Grinning Goku
Jobbernaut gave Walter a run for his money. Current Juggernaut ****s his hairy ass up good.
Cosigned
Originally posted by Starscream M
you're extremely biased for Walter, so it is hard to trust your judgment.
Originally posted by -K-M-
...well your credibility is for the better part well...non-existant.
Originally posted by Starscream M
appeal to majority is not a strong leg to stand onneither is resorting to ad hominem attacks
Lolz.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Because not only was he keeping up with Walter. He had 2 other members of AF to contend with. Guardian got 1 shot in before Juggernaut destroyed him.
You said he was handing it to them though, handing it to someone is beating someone which he didn't. Guardian got a shot in with physical punches....punches that even made him bleed. When has he ever in his entire career ever went toe to toe like that? and Guardian and Vindicator were none the worse for wear from jugz attacks. So no Jugz was not handing it to anyone.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Well, handing it to them as well as they were dishing it out. Until Walter tackled and pummeled him, he was pretty unphased.
He was fighting them, but he really didn't have a hugh advantage over anyone especially since Guardian and Vindicator didn't unleash one of their energy attacks which would have seriously hurt Jugz. Walter had him on the ground, and could have followed it up but G/V told him to stop the first time.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Again, Walter took advantage of a man who had clearly given up. You can call it a win for 3 amped AF members if it'll make you feel better.
That was at the end, in the middle he clearly had the advantage and V/G told him to stop, which caused Jugz to hit him away for a short period and then he clashed with the duo. I'm not calling it a win, no where did I say that, but I don't agree with you saying he handed it to them when he didn't.
He clearly had the advantage? He had nothing. He bum rushed Cain through the house and then back handed him. Like I said, he was unphased. He even has a sinister grin on his face when he gut shots Walter, breaking his armor.
Again, this is a depowered Juggernaut. If that's all they were capable of doing to him, that speaks volumes about those characters.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He clearly had the advantage? He had nothing. He bum rushed Cain through the house and then back handed him. Like I said, he was unphased. He even has a sinister grin on his face when he gut shots Walter, breaking his armor.Again, this is a depowered Juggernaut. If that's all they were capable of doing to him, that speaks volumes about those characters.
Are you reading the same issue? As Sas hit him with a massive blow that sent him to the ground and he was laid out for a few seconds as G/V told him to stop and he turned to have a conversation with them and while he was doing that Jugz got up from the ground and hit him when his back was turned. He could have kept following up his attack, but stopped. How is that somehow impressive for Jugz again?
Guardian and Vindicator didn;t even use their powerful attacks, so really the feat isn't that impressive at all. Hell Sasquatch without the armor took it to him, but someone he is more impressive here? Definetly not considering he never really did much.
