Yeah, Bobby has a good chance of soloing the FF.
Originally posted by lando005
if they go staight at it i see them matching up like thismr fantastic - wolverine
invisible woman - nightcrawler
thing - colossus
human torch - iceman
Wolverine still can't cut him if I'm correct, however, Fantastic might take a minute to K.O. Wolverine.
Invisible woman is up against a teleporter, and it seems like she might even lose. Of course her powers are a kajabagazillion times more powerful, but, I don't know how she'd do against Kurt.
Colossus, close enough, though.
Iceman with ease.
Originally posted by jollyjim311you do know i'm curbing down icman's power to be on par with torch
Yeah, Bobby has a good chance of soloing the FF.Wolverine still can't cut him if I'm correct, however, Fantastic might take a minute to K.O. Wolverine.
Invisible woman is up against a teleporter, and it seems like she might even lose. Of course her powers are a kajabagazillion times more powerful, but, I don't know how she'd do against Kurt.
Colossus, close enough, though.
Iceman with ease.
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Really only Ben. Johnny can incinirate him from a distance.
You underestimate Nightcrawler.
Like we saw in Silent War, F4 are pretty much reliable on being able to out some on their own. I can't imagine F4 actually being able to quickly take out anyone. Nightcrawler's evasive, I can't really imagine any of them taking him out.
They're familiar with Wolverine, and know how dangerous he is. Which means they'll probably focus a lot of their firepower on him. Sue can trap one, but she can't make herself completely invulnerable.
You've got 3 x-men with incredible offensive powers, and 1 who's impossible to catch.
Nightcrawler only needs to teleport around poking them in the eye. While they're temporarily blinded, Iceman can end it.
Originally posted by llagrok
You underestimate Nightcrawler.Like we saw in Silent War, F4 are pretty much reliable on being able to out some on their own. I can't imagine F4 actually being able to quickly take out anyone. Nightcrawler's evasive, I can't really imagine any of them taking him out.
They're familiar with Wolverine, and know how dangerous he is. Which means they'll probably focus a lot of their firepower on him. Sue can trap one, but she can't make herself completely invulnerable.
You've got 3 x-men with incredible offensive powers, and 1 who's impossible to catch.
[B]Nightcrawler only needs to teleport around poking them in the eye. While they're temporarily blinded, Iceman can end it.
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I'm sorry but I have to laugh at this. Any way this is how I see this perticular fight playing out.
I say Sue gets to Bobby first because of the experience and encapsulates him and closes it in on him. Johnny and Ben can take out Logan pretty fast if ask me via incinaration and a quick K.O. That four on two already and the fight just started. Reed can play defense to protect Sue from being poked in the eye not mention he probably has contraption to deal with NC. That still leave The Thing and Johny to take care of Colossus. This scenerio is not far fetched.
Best case scenario FF4?
Invisible Woman puts air tight bubbles around colossus, iceman, and wolverine. The three go down from lack of air. (remembering that this is human torch level iceman... then invis woman puts shields around all ff4 members and johnny goes nova... no matter where nightcrawler goes to, hes getting burned. game over.
Best case scenario Xmen. Colossus overstretches reed. Wolverine cuts up thing. Iceman drains all the heat necessary for HT. Which leaves invisible woman. Nightcrawler cannot teleport into her shield and hit her without risk to himself. iceman frosts over the whole area so that even with invis woman invisible, you can outline her body in the snow and find her footprints. so the fastball special with wolverine and colossus is used to pierce the shield... game over.
I lean for FF4 6 out of 10 though...
Read an ff4 comic, you see teamwork all day everyday.
Read an Xmen comic, you see teamwork when a summers is on the field... no summers here... no alex.. scott... cable... all your left are very powerful support casts with no leadership.
Originally posted by rotiarti have a hard time beliving colossus would overstretch reed
Best case scenario FF4?
Invisible Woman puts air tight bubbles around colossus, iceman, and wolverine. The three go down from lack of air. (remembering that this is human torch level iceman... then invis woman puts shields around all ff4 members and johnny goes nova... no matter where nightcrawler goes to, hes getting burned. game over.Best case scenario Xmen. Colossus overstretches reed. Wolverine cuts up thing. Iceman drains all the heat necessary for HT. Which leaves invisible woman. Nightcrawler cannot teleport into her shield and hit her without risk to himself. iceman frosts over the whole area so that even with invis woman invisible, you can outline her body in the snow and find her footprints. so the fastball special with wolverine and colossus is used to pierce the shield... game over.
I lean for FF4 6 out of 10 though...
Read an ff4 comic, you see teamwork all day everyday.
Read an Xmen comic, you see teamwork when a summers is on the field... no summers here... no alex.. scott... cable... all your left are very powerful support casts with no leadership.