Full Power Cable vs Nova

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Full Power Cable vs Nova

Sorry about all the Nova Threads but I think this one is debate worthy

Re: Full Power Cable vs Nova

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Sorry about all the Nova Threads but I think this one is debate worthy

Cable wins

Cable can win this. he can stop Nova moving mindrape him or stop Nova while he is moving and putting an island on him or there are a couple more way that Nate can deal with this.

As much as I love Nova, I don't see him winning this.

cable

It took Silver Surfer to take down full power cable but it seemed like surfer only toyed with him and then finally had enough of the games and put him down with one gesture thats why i think nova would be a more even match

uhm, surfer took down a DEPOWERED cable without much of his average telepathy which is futher enhanced by the fact that cable had the techno organic virus. furthermore, cable made it explicit that he did not want to fight and was telepathically repairing all the damage surfer was creating. when he got serious, with only a second's worth of concentration, he BROKE the surfer's board, the board that is as durable if not more than surfer and the board that has only been broken by beings like galactus and morg w waters of life. the surfer later retaliated by destroying cable's technoorganic arm which was without any protection psychically which is not a huge feat. even normal cable would defeat surfer or nova, full potential cable is the same if not great than dark phoenix,

he did alot more to cable than that, he lobotomized him...before that the surfers only attacks against him were physical and i am pretty sure cable was at full power although not really wanting to fight

Originally posted by leonheartmm
uhm, surfer took down a DEPOWERED cable without much of his average telepathy which is futher enhanced by the fact that cable had the techno organic virus. furthermore, cable made it explicit that he did not want to fight and was telepathically repairing all the damage surfer was creating. when he got serious, with only a second's worth of concentration, he BROKE the surfer's board, the board that is as durable if not more than surfer and the board that has only been broken by beings like galactus and morg w waters of life. the surfer later retaliated by destroying cable's technoorganic arm which was without any protection psychically which is not a huge feat. even normal cable would defeat surfer or nova, full potential cable is the same if not great than dark phoenix,

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Normal cable has NO shot at beating Surfer. And where in the world do you get FP Cable being "the same if not great than dark phoenix"? Smells like BS to me.

Agreed...full power cable was too much for anybody on earth at the time to handle but Bringing in the Surfer was overkill...I just think that Current Nova would be a more even matchup

I want to clarify something about Cable.

Even with out the T.O.. Cable will never be able to attain full power.

He has conscious and unconscious self impose limitations. And father mutations (or evolution) would have to take place.

Jesus Cable is not really Full power. Just Cable not hindered by the T.O. (um to much).

Im talking about cable from Cable & Deadpool issues 7-11

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Im talking about cable from Cable & Deadpool issues 7-11

I am referring to Cable from
Cable #91-107
Soldier X #1-12
Cable and Dead pool #1-10

That’s the entire run of Cable not hindered by the T.O. (I believe).

thats the one

This is an interesting match up, Nova is obviously very powerful, though not as powerful as SS. Hmm imma have to get back to you guys on this one. First hunch would be Cable due to his superior TK. Though the world mind would no doubt warn Nova, and possibly block Cable's TK. Tough call

Originally posted by celestialdemon
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Normal cable has NO shot at beating Surfer. And where in the world do you get FP Cable being "the same if not great than dark phoenix"? Smells like BS to me.

XAVIER: he calls himself nate grey, although what relation he has to our jean grey and her family remains uncertain. moira's tests on him reveal he is not a clone, and yet paradoxicall, has the exact same dna makeup as cable. lastly annd perhaps of the most consequence. his psi power is like nothing i have ever encountered. so great is his potential that when he utilizes that power, it actually creates a ripple in the psionic plane. some one like you{cable} but not you. thats how sisnister described him.

cable: it would ne just like sinister, with his twisted genetic experiments to have a hand in all this. but how?

jean: charles, cable's completely shut off his thoughts from me.

charles: yes, both he and blaquesmith are blocking any telepathic probe quite effectively

storm😛ut simply charles, what your are saying is that this child could pose a great menace to the very world. a menace that must be dealt with immedietly.

moira: aye storm. what weve amassed tis only thoery mind ye, but it appears that the psionic energy that boy carries is far beyond what any human vessel can contain.

cable: you mean, with the exception of "ME".

xavier: yes. with the exception of you. we dont know the full effects of the techno organic virus on your body,

cable: i know the effects xavier. i live with it every second of every day. as a child, i was taught to use my power to hold my body together. since then ive always assumed that the virus acts a diversion for that power.

moira: weve long been in agreementon that point nathan. but before now, we could only have guessed at the level of your telepathy. what were dealing with is that power unfettered. we cannae be certain of thi, but ifn we extrapolate from what we know of the boy's power, using this holo graph to illustrate. it equals the most UNCONTAINEABLE PSIONIC ENERGY that we have on record-- THE "PHOENIX"{dark phoenix is shown in the hologram}
whereas the phoenix was twisted by the sensation of a human wielding GOD LIKE POWER, nate grey is an adolescent who is unprepared. physically, mentally and emotionally, to contain such devestaing power. a power if corrupted, that could consume him utterly as well as all around him.

direct quotes from the comic pages which i cudnt paste due to large size. bullshit INDEED. cable has been said by moira mc taggart to be able to eat stars. he broke the surfer's board and sud break him on the same account if plot wasnt otherwise. he IS on the level with dark phoenix as nate is only slightly stronger than cable.

conclusion, no bloody herald leveller is gonna be beatin cable. galactus wudnt beat full potential cable. he was NOT even at his normal subdued TEV power levels, he was depowerd and not in the mood to fight. when he did, with a little concentration, he broke the surfer's board. and surfer only destroyed his TE arm without protection. he was also repairing all the damage that the surfer was creating and surfer WAS using his power cosmic, he was VAPOURIZING EVERYTHING IN THE SURROUNDING as quoted form the mouth of the battle ship employee. and why oh why do u think surfer came down to BEAT him? he explains himself. "YOU HAVE "PASSION". PASSION BEGETS HUNGER. HUNGER "CONSUMES WORLDS""! he wudnt go after just any lunatic with passion, he was afraid cable would develop to consume WORLDS. and what does surfer mean when he says consumes words? its a reference to his former master and world consumer, GALACTUS!

Originally posted by leonheartmm
XAVIER: he calls himself nate grey, although what relation he has to our jean grey and her family remains uncertain. moira's tests on him reveal he is not a clone, and yet paradoxicall, has the exact same dna makeup as cable. lastly annd perhaps of the most consequence. his psi power is like nothing i have ever encountered. so great is his potential that when he utilizes that power, it actually creates a ripple in the psionic plane. some one like you{cable} but not you. thats how sisnister described him.

cable: it would ne just like sinister, with his twisted genetic experiments to have a hand in all this. but how?

jean: charles, cable's completely shut off his thoughts from me.

charles: yes, both he and blaquesmith are blocking any telepathic probe quite effectively

storm😛ut simply charles, what your are saying is that this child could pose a great menace to the very world. a menace that must be dealt with immedietly.

moira: aye storm. what weve amassed tis only thoery mind ye, but it appears that the psionic energy that boy carries is far beyond what any human vessel can contain.

cable: you mean, with the exception of "ME".

xavier: yes. with the exception of you. we dont know the full effects of the techno organic virus on your body,

cable: i know the effects xavier. i live with it every second of every day. as a child, i was taught to use my power to hold my body together. since then ive always assumed that the virus acts a diversion for that power.

moira: weve long been in agreementon that point nathan. but before now, we could only have guessed at the level of your telepathy. what were dealing with is that power unfettered. we cannae be certain of thi, but ifn we extrapolate from what we know of the boy's power, using this holo graph to illustrate. it equals the most UNCONTAINEABLE PSIONIC ENERGY that we have on record-- THE "PHOENIX"{dark phoenix is shown in the hologram}
whereas the phoenix was twisted by the sensation of a human wielding GOD LIKE POWER, nate grey is an adolescent who is unprepared. physically, mentally and emotionally, to contain such devestaing power. a power if corrupted, that could consume him utterly as well as all around him.

direct quotes from the comic pages which i cudnt paste due to large size. bullshit INDEED. cable has been said by moira mc taggart to be able to eat stars. he broke the surfer's board and sud break him on the same account if plot wasnt otherwise. he IS on the level with dark phoenix as nate is only slightly stronger than cable.

conclusion, no bloody herald leveller is gonna be beatin cable. galactus wudnt beat full potential cable. he was NOT even at his normal subdued TEV power levels, he was depowerd and not in the mood to fight. when he did, with a little concentration, he broke the surfer's board. and surfer only destroyed his TE arm without protection. he was also repairing all the damage that the surfer was creating and surfer WAS using his power cosmic, he was VAPOURIZING EVERYTHING IN THE SURROUNDING as quoted form the mouth of the battle ship employee. and why oh why do u think surfer came down to BEAT him? he explains himself. "YOU HAVE "PASSION". PASSION BEGETS HUNGER. HUNGER "CONSUMES WORLDS""! he wudnt go after just any lunatic with passion, he was afraid cable would develop to consume WORLDS. and what does surfer mean when he says consumes words? its a reference to his former master and world consumer, GALACTUS!

also, you're an idiot.

Wahhh..
There is just so many things wrong on that post above, i dont even know when to start..

Originally posted by Roldz
Wahhh..
There is just so many things wrong on that post above, i dont even know when to start..
That's why I stopped reading his posts, after he said Dr. Strange would crush Galactus, and Fallen One is above Galactus.

😑 .. He like to make stuff up doesnt he..lol

I meant to say where not when..