Originally posted by Xenogears
Err...Asuka can punch a guy who beat Kazuya and Heihachi back to back (which is more impressive than knocking out a T-Rex, considering what it takes to knock out someone of Heihachi's calibur, not to mention Kazuya's more of a threat than he is) far away. Even though he wasn't expecting it, that's still pretty damn impressive. Point that I'm making here is that nothing says Hitomi curbstomps Asuka, or that she would even beat her for that matter. Asuka's strength has been proven, Hitmoi's was not, although she can take on Jann Lee. That doesn't mean she can do what he can. Asuka's place in T5 is not known, meaning we do not know who she beat either. For all we know she may have beaten Bryan Fury. I'm pretty much done.
No.
Hitomi doesn't have to do what Jann Lee can to be a threat. Thing is she can take blows from him. Simply punching Jin a couple of feet away is not impressive at all. He is still human, and not a heavy one at that. If you really think punching someone when they are distracted is impressive then fine by me, but I have to tell you that I disagree.
Point I will make right now is that Hitomi has more stuff going for her to win this match than Asuka. Assumptions like Asuka may have beaten Bryan Fury does not win a debate and you know it, budd.
Originally posted by StyleTimeAre you kidding me? Jin had most of his energy sucked out of him before he fought Kazuya, who was being powered up by the Devil Gene. Jin nearly killed Heihachi afterwards. This is a guy who gets up after being in the middle of a huge explosion.
Jin isn't allowed access to the Devil Gene for this fight, so the Kazuya/Heihachi beat down isn't usuable.When did I say I liked Hitomi more? I was honestly about to accuse you of the same thing. Especially considering how defensive you are getting about Asuka.
Hitomi has an established place near the top of a hierarchy that is comparable to the one Asuka belongs in. Also, Asuka's feat isn't that impressive considering the circumstances in which they occured.
Why can't you just accept that until the next game, Asuka looses? I admitted Kokoro looses when she was brought up because she, like Asuka, doesn't have anything going for her at the moment.
DOA3's top tiers are hardly like T5's. How many people in DOA3 can run straight through tank shells, shatter mountains and quake planets? Probably not that much.
Why can't you accept the fact we don't know what place Asuka has placed in a tournament that has already been done with? Why can't you accept the fact that Asuka's strength has been shown and not Hitomi's? Jinpachi was on the verge of destroying the world, though was beaten by Jin. That does not mean Jin's feats are comparable, so beating a guy who can knock out T-Rexs does not mean one could do the same.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
He still takes it. Gameplay wise T4 Jin was a beast. His parries and quick combos were unstoppable for the most part. Not to mention Jin has beaten True Ogre and the Tekken 3 cast without a triggered Devil Gene. Taking away the Devil Gene might increase Hitomi's chances, but it still does not give her the win. Jin tops her in pretty much every category.
I personally think Hitomi would make Jin at least get serious. He should beat her going by track records though. Hitomi's position in the top tier isn't solidified just yet. I'm waiting for her to whoop Hayate in DOA5. 😈
Originally posted by StyleTime
Oh I agree as much as I hate to admit it. I was just saying that Jin won't be super amped up like he was for that fight. I think he gets too much credit for that feat. It's not that impressive when you consider he was being amped and both Kazuya and Heihachi wer at normal levels.I personally think Hitomi would make Jin at least get serious. He should beat her going by track records though. Hitomi's position in the top tier isn't solidified just yet. I'm waiting for to whoop Hayate in DOA5. 😈
I agree. Hitomi's pretty good. She will at least make him get serious.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
There's no way in hell Hitomi will beat Jin unless she seduces him, but she's too much of a dork to pull that off, and Jin too much of a moron to figure out she's hot.
*lmfao* 😄
Originally posted by Xenogears
...because we lack the knowledge of something that already happened.Sounds like you're saying this for the sole fact that you like Hitomi more.
Also, Asuka's strength has been proven. She can punch Jin, who's one of the strongest fighters in Tekken a long distance away with his feet scraping the ground, and make the boulder that he smacked into crumble to bits. Gee I wonder whether or not Hitomi can do that. Oh, according to you, she can't because she has never done anything remotely close. Asuka's kicks are pretty powerful as well as shown in the second part of the T5 intro.
That punch was in that scene for a comical reason I think... 😄 But she´s still pretty kickass. To the point, I think that Jin would take this one... :/
Originally posted by OtusIt's comical but it doesn't change the fact that she's actually that strong. I mean hey, it's maybe comical that Paul smashed a brick wall right before yelling "Bring it on ya aliens!" 😄. Though he's still that strong...Roger Jr. is also very strong as shown in his epilogue.
*lmfao* 😄That punch was in that scene for a comical reason I think... 😄 But she´s still pretty kickass. To the point, I think that Jin would take this one... :/
Originally posted by Xenogears
Are you kidding me? Jin had most of his energy sucked out of him before he fought Kazuya, who was being powered up by the Devil Gene. Jin nearly killed Heihachi afterwards. This is a guy who gets up after being in the middle of a huge explosion.DOA3's top tiers are hardly like T5's. How many people in DOA3 can run straight through tank shells, shatter mountains and quake planets? Probably not that much.
Why can't you accept the fact we don't know what place Asuka has placed in a tournament that has already been done with? Why can't you accept the fact that Asuka's strength has been shown and not Hitomi's? Jinpachi was on the verge of destroying the world, though was beaten by Jin. That does not mean Jin's feats are comparable, so beating a guy who can knock out T-Rexs does not mean one could do the same.
I'll leave the top tier comment alone so as to further bog the "debate" down.
That's the point Xenogears. Asuka looses do due to lack of feats. We established when someone pit her against Ayane a while ago. I think it was before you were here. Also, I never said Hitomo could KO T-Rex's and I never even mentioned that fight.
Let me as you this. Who wins between Kokoro and Bryan? Then tell me why.
Originally posted by StyleTimeIt's because it's heavily assumed that Kokoro can't take shots from a gun. Fury has ran straight through a tank assault unscratched, then snapped off the turret and tossed it far.
Yet we still see him powered up before the fight.I'll leave the top tier comment alone so as to further bog the "debate" down.
That's the point Xenogears. Asuka looses do due to lack of feats. We established when someone pit her against Ayane a while ago. I think it was before you were here. Also, I never said Hitomo could KO T-Rex's and I never even mentioned that fight.
Let me as you this. Who wins between Kokoro and Bryan? Then tell me why.
It seems you do not listen. Asuka's srength has been proven already. What she did in the beginning of T5 and in her epilogue shows how much strength she has. Hitomi placed third place in DOA3, is that it? Sorry, that doesn't tell us how strong she is. It can just be assumed she's as strong as someone she has beaten, such as Jann Lee.
It seems as if you want to believe placing third in DOA3 > anything Asuka has shown to do, well I'm sorry to burst your bubble. Asuka's demonstrated her leg power by jumping of skyscrapers with her bike, and can punch Jin a long distance away before making him smack into a boulder and shattering it to bits. Hitomi has no strength feats. She just beat the crap out of people.