Originally posted by Magee
Who is this we? Your statement offends me in so many ways I think I might just go kill myself.
Strange. You seem to carry the notion that your statement somehow means something to me. That I should be worried about offending some one when posting my opinion. I'm sorry it offended you. Here's a quarter, go call some one who cares...
Originally posted by MindshipWell what if the universe/spirit/life are like "whole/parts" or holons? examples would be a whole atom is part of a whole molecule, and the whole molecule is part of a whole cell, and the whole cell is part of a whole organism. One cannot exist without the other. And the Kosmos is simply a part of the next moment's whole, indefinitely. And since they are connected and have communions they influence and communicate in some way. It could be seen as the invisible such as what we call spirit/mind in a quantum like fashion ever transcending process on all levels that we would call being creative which is creation. Matter to life to mind, to maybe even higher stages. Maybe called spirit in action, but it quantum stages or transcendence or creation creating a Kosmos, but with infinite knowledge of some sort.
God/Universe as a giant quantum computer. Hokey Smokes, Debwinkle!
Originally posted by debbiejo
Atoms make up everything, don't they? Well you see where I'm coming from don't you. Smaller parts of a whole, yet they must be seperate but still and you need both, just like a letter is part of a word and a word is part of a sentence and a sentence is part of a paragraph and so on...
Yeah.
Just you implied the organism couldn't survive without the original atom.
Originally posted by debbiejoSpirit as fractal resonance. Nice...
Well what if the universe/spirit/life are like "whole/parts" or holons? examples would be a whole atom is part of a whole molecule, and the whole molecule is part of a whole cell, and the whole cell is part of a whole organism. One cannot exist without the other. And the Kosmos is simply a part of the next moment's whole, indefinitely. And since they are connected and have communions they influence and communicate in some way. It could be seen as the invisible such as what we call spirit/mind in a quantum like fashion ever transcending process on all levels that we would call being creative which is creation. Matter to life to mind, to maybe even higher stages. Maybe called spirit in action, but it quantum stages or transcendence or creation creating a Kosmos, but with infinite knowledge of some sort.
atoms and molecules CONSIST you, the same way electrical signals consist your thoughts but none of them ARE you. the same way the molecules of paper and ink are all that MAKE UP a methematical equation{or did when we didnt use computers etc} but none of them ARE the equation, nor are the imaginary alphabets used to make it up. the concept is seperate from almost all of its constituents and only relies on them for conveyance. the WHOLENESS of our existance is not in our constituent parts i think.