Is There A Limit To Knowledge?

Started by Symmetric Chaos3 pages
Originally posted by Mindship
Information is neither created nor destroyed, just revised. 💃

But you can create information.

Synergy. If I have 10,000 atoms thats some information. If I take them entangle them into a quantum computer there's more information due to complexity.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But you can create information.

Synergy. If I have 10,000 atoms thats some information. If I take them entangle them into a quantum computer there's more information due to complexity.


Works for me.

Originally posted by Magee
Who is this we? Your statement offends me in so many ways I think I might just go kill myself.

Strange. You seem to carry the notion that your statement somehow means something to me. That I should be worried about offending some one when posting my opinion. I'm sorry it offended you. Here's a quarter, go call some one who cares...

Originally posted by Mindship
Information is infinite; our capacity to known it is not.
Yeppers.

Now here's a different view, what if god is information/knowledge/evolving and nothing more.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Now here's a different view, what if god is information/knowledge/evolving and nothing more.
God/Universe as a giant quantum computer. Hokey Smokes, Debwinkle!

Re: Is There A Limit To Knowledge?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
a very simple and at the same time, very complex question. what are your thoughts one this? is knowledge ultimately limited or does it have no limits. is it finite or infinite?

I don't know... 😎

Originally posted by Mindship
God/Universe as a giant quantum computer. Hokey Smokes, Debwinkle!
Well what if the universe/spirit/life are like "whole/parts" or holons? examples would be a whole atom is part of a whole molecule, and the whole molecule is part of a whole cell, and the whole cell is part of a whole organism. One cannot exist without the other. And the Kosmos is simply a part of the next moment's whole, indefinitely. And since they are connected and have communions they influence and communicate in some way. It could be seen as the invisible such as what we call spirit/mind in a quantum like fashion ever transcending process on all levels that we would call being creative which is creation. Matter to life to mind, to maybe even higher stages. Maybe called spirit in action, but it quantum stages or transcendence or creation creating a Kosmos, but with infinite knowledge of some sort.

An organism can exist without an atom. Let's be realistic here Debbie.

Atoms make up everything, don't they? Well you see where I'm coming from don't you. Smaller parts of a whole, yet they must be seperate but still and you need both, just like a letter is part of a word and a word is part of a sentence and a sentence is part of a paragraph and so on...

Nah.

Not sub-atomic particles ahahhahaa I win.

Here's another mind boggling thought. What are atoms made up of? Electrons, protons and neutron. But they are just probabities of where a certain type of energy might be. So we are all just a bunch a wierd probablity thingies? Stuff gets very weird when science goes this far

Originally posted by debbiejo
Atoms make up everything, don't they? Well you see where I'm coming from don't you. Smaller parts of a whole, yet they must be seperate but still and you need both, just like a letter is part of a word and a word is part of a sentence and a sentence is part of a paragraph and so on...

Yeah.

Just you implied the organism couldn't survive without the original atom.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Nah.

Not sub-atomic particles ahahhahaa I win.

Well sub-atomic particles are parts of an atom, unless I'm forgetting something.... 😕

Quit confusing me.

I think debbiejo may be on to something here.

IWHASWU

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Originally posted by debbiejo
Well what if the universe/spirit/life are like "whole/parts" or holons? examples would be a whole atom is part of a whole molecule, and the whole molecule is part of a whole cell, and the whole cell is part of a whole organism. One cannot exist without the other. And the Kosmos is simply a part of the next moment's whole, indefinitely. And since they are connected and have communions they influence and communicate in some way. It could be seen as the invisible such as what we call spirit/mind in a quantum like fashion ever transcending process on all levels that we would call being creative which is creation. Matter to life to mind, to maybe even higher stages. Maybe called spirit in action, but it quantum stages or transcendence or creation creating a Kosmos, but with infinite knowledge of some sort.
Spirit as fractal resonance. Nice...

Well thankies, It's actually a cool idea really. I mean a part must hold on to it's own identity and have its own autonomy for it to be able to exist and have its own wholeness. Each wholeness is part of another wholeness or whole systems.

atoms and molecules CONSIST you, the same way electrical signals consist your thoughts but none of them ARE you. the same way the molecules of paper and ink are all that MAKE UP a methematical equation{or did when we didnt use computers etc} but none of them ARE the equation, nor are the imaginary alphabets used to make it up. the concept is seperate from almost all of its constituents and only relies on them for conveyance. the WHOLENESS of our existance is not in our constituent parts i think.

although paradoxically, without our parts, our wholeness would sieze to exist. and our parts directly affect our wholeness.