Originally posted by King KAM
the suit destroyed cap because it taskmastered his ass.
Exactly, if it can do that to Cap, why not Wolverine? It's not like IM wasn't on the Avengers with Logan or anything, and if it can neutralize Cap's fighting ability, Wolverine's not going to last either. Of course, I'm basing all of this off of one fight in CW, so maybe that was just PIS, but I wouldn't know.
Originally posted by Rewmac
Superhuman strength...Best shit I ever heard from you...Maybe he is stronger than normal people, but he ain't superhuman normally. He had a couple of nice showings but he ain't superhuman in strength. Cap is stronger than him and he ain't superhuman.
Well i guess cap can lift two tons. Read more on wolverine.
Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Exactly, if it can do that to Cap, why not Wolverine? It's not like IM wasn't on the Avengers with Logan or anything, and if it can neutralize Cap's fighting ability, Wolverine's not going to last either. Of course, I'm basing all of this off of one fight in CW, so maybe that was just PIS, but I wouldn't know.
Yeah, the suit read everything about cap moves BUT that was from the entire time that tony have known cap. He wont have the time to do that in this fight.
Now whats different about this is that Wolverine can also stand up to iron man punches unlike cap and since iron man dont have knowledge of wolverine fighting style than wolverine will get his stabs in also.
I give wolverine the majority in this one since he has taken out better; sentinels, that have rays along with super human strength.
I personally thought that some sentinal constructs were farily damned threatening.
Okay,
Well, Wolverine has already stated that he can take Iron Man, Giant Man, and a fully loaded SHIELD hellicarrier, so that's that.
Plus, we've seen Wolverine shred through Tony's armor on once occassion, stab through Tony's Hulkbuster on another, and cut through an evil Iron Man's armor on yet another.
And, Wolverine had Iron man dead to rights during Infinity War.
And, we've practically seen Wolverine have Extremis Iron Man dead to rights already, albiet through a stealthy sneak attack.
AND, I'm totally just talking out my ass guys. lol.
ACTUALLY, what I think is this;
Yes, it WAS Iron Man's suit that "Taskmastered" Captain America and not the man (lovin the term btw), and yes Wolverine wasn't on the New Avengers THAT long before Civil War took place. HOWEVER, it was implied during the Civil War arch on at least two ocassions that the level of detailed information that Iron Man has collected on various superheroes throughout the years is downright scary, and it would make sense for Iron Man to have a lot of information on a guy like Wolverine since he's a major liability, finally it would seem just downright ignorant to assume that he'd be dumbfounded by Wolverine's talents, when Wolverine's already fought in an Iron Man suit, which transfers information to the mainframe in Extremis as I understood it.
I DO however, also think that there's validity to Carver's statement in that Wolverine can and will take IM's punches better than Captain America did or could. It does leave the door open for the possibility of Wolverine drawing Iron Man into an uncomprimising position and sacrificing himself to score a kill shot, but the door is open only ever so slightly.
I think that IF Iron Man has the detailed information on Wolverine that he did on Captain America, and was stupid enough to voice it out, or Logan stayed concious long enough to grasp what was happening, that Wolverine has a chance of success through slipping himself into a real berserker rage. But as we know, that isn't likely to happen.
Personally, I see Extremis Iron Man's reflexes already being a ***** to get past, add in his speed upgrades, and his file information, it's going to be hard for Wolverine to score a winning blow, especially if he can heal himself. Factor in some class 100 muscle to back all that up and I don't see Wolverine pulling the majority here.. Iron Man wins 7/10. The three wins to Logan are addressed to two wins by berserker rage; one after Tony tells Logan what's happening, the other after Logan figures it out for himself. The other win's if Wolverine can catch IM in an uncomprimising position upclose and strike a killing blow ala "Rob Roy"...
But yeah, Iron Man for the majority. 😬
I hate defending Wolverine but Captain America is a boxer and Judo master where Wolverine is a master of every fighting style on earth.
Wolverine's abilities- http://www.marveldatabase.com/James_Howlett#Abilities