Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Apparently, the same demon that allows Blaine and Angel to Levitate in public can also summon the "Dragon Zord".Jesus Juice Logic, FTW.
JIA needs to realize that they aren't actually levitating... it's possible through the "magic" of television and editing. Some people.
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Answer please, JIA?
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Some people can do great things that others cannot.
JIA has this perspective that we are severely limitted and incapable beings, and that we can only acheive ANY kind of power through imaginary characters God and Satan.
Humankind has done great things before Christianity came about, and without the backing of Judaism.
JIA does not realize the power that human beings already have. He is either ignorant to it, or rejects it.
JIA even denounces being a good person, as useless, because he beleives that without Jesus there is no good.
He has a very limitted perspective on life and morality, and despite your input, he will not be open to it.
God is not imaginary and neither is satan.
Like what?
What power?
I have not denounced being a good person, I have simply stated that being good does not save you or gain you entrance into Heaven. I never said that without Jesus there is no good, you are putting words in my mouth.
I do not believe that my perspective is limited it is just not open to mainstream society’s ungodly philosophy towards life. I live my life responsibly before God (as best as I can). Do you know what I mean? 😕
That's an extremely well put point. Many Atheists have grown to do great things without God. Can you explain psychics? Did they attain the ability of Clairvoyance from Satan. Do the flashes I get in my head result from demonic intervene. What about the religions before Christianity? Like *cough*Wicca*cough*... Are they wrong because they serve different gods than yourself? There's life outside of the bible. People with emotions, thoughts, and perspectives.
Atheists are still lost without Jesus Christ. I believe that clairvoyance is demonic. What about religions before Christianity? Yes, they are wrong because Jesus is the one, true God. There is no other God beside the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Sure, there is life outside of the Bible—I am living one. I have emotions, thoughts, and perspectives too.
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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
You can't prove a negative JIA, that's impossible. If there is no proof suggesting that Demons and Witch-Craft are the culprit then it is not the responsible for said acts. You made the claim that Blaine and Angel use Witch-Craft in their tricks not me. So, why should I have to prove something that you claimed in the first place?
Because you deny it.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
You can't prove a negative JIA, that's impossible. If there is no proof suggesting that Demons and Witch-Craft are the culprit then it is not the responsible for said acts. You made the claim that Blaine and Angel use Witch-Craft in their tricks not me. So, why should I have to prove something that you claimed in the first place?
First prove that He is not true? I know what you are thinking: "you can't prove a negative." But that is not true. A negative can be proven. For example, I do not believe that elephants can fly like dumbo. I assert that flying elephants do not exist on this planet. My proof is that elephants do not have the genetic equipment and wherewithal to fly as birds do. I have just proven a negative.
Well, you perhaps assert that Jesus is not true (I am assuming that this is what you are doing, right?) Well, your job (in this scenario) is to prove that Jesus is not true. You may not see Him but does that mean that He is not true? No! Oh, sorry, I should have said, "no," without the exclamation. But I wanted to emphasize that. Just because you cannot perceive something with your senses does not mean that it does not exist. For example, can you see wind? Can you see radio waves? Can you see gravity? Can you see the fourth dimension? You can see the effect of wind or radio waves or gravity but you cannot see them per se.
But, guess what lord xyz all of those examples that I have provided exist! 💃
So, yes you can prove a negative if it truly does not exist. But in this case that is impossible because Jesus Christ does exist. But the burden of proof that He does not exist rests with you not me. My job (only in this scenario and not in the real world in terms of my preaching the gospel) is to prove that Jesus does exist and your job is to prove that He does not.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/blaine-levitates-p1.php (Notice how David Blaine levitates out in the open (he is not in a controlled environment like a studio), and notice how high David Blaine levitates [B]plus he does not step up on anything in order to levitate. This rules out Chriss Angel's explanation concerning how levitation is made possible.)[/b]
Question: Did David Blaine use the method that Chriss Angel explains in the video in order to levitate? No, he didn't. In the Chriss Angel video it shows Chriss stepping up onto a box. But David Blaine steps on nothing to levitate (think about that for a moment). Based on the laws of physics how was David Blaine capable of levitation? Illusion? Nope. Special effects? Nope. Wires? Nope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIwcVAxZsU (Chriss Angel levitates from building to building without special effects or wires)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/58441/chriss_angels_telekinesis/ (unexplainable apart from occult, supernatural ability i.e. demons)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/343034/chriss_angel_makes_girl_dissappear/ (unexplainable apart from occult, supernatural ability i.e. demons)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/44391/david_blaine_quarter_bite/ (unexplainable apart from occult, supernatural ability i.e. demons)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/130552/david_blaine_changes_coffee_into_money/ (unexplainable apart from occult, supernatural ability i.e. demons)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/32558/chicken_magic/ (unexplainable apart from occult, supernatural ability i.e. demons)
Originally posted by FeceMan
Derk. Criss Angel uses his levitation trick out in the open, too.Read the ****ing PDF. He used a wire suspension. I guess it's a good thing those wires aren't visible in movies, or you might be able to say that he wasn't using htem.
Seen it. I honestly can't explain this one, aside from the helium tubes thing. Of course, that was attempted in the past, in the '30s, so it might be accurate.
I can't explain this one. I'll do some research on it.
Look at the camera work when they're circling around the chair/blanket. She sneaks out then.
It's a trick quarter. It's pre-split with a rubberband around it...he folds it back and lets go when he blows. It's just sleight of hand to give the real coin back.
The cup has a false bottom filled with coins. He pushes it up.
He has a fake chicken's head and tucks the real chicken's head under its wing.
Tell that to all of the live spectators who freak out.
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Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
What exactly am I denying, I've asked you to prove your point. So, show me the proof that they utilise Witch-Craft to perform their tricks.
First, show me proof that they do use demons.
Oh, and I just proved a negative, read the following:
First prove that He is not true? I know what you are thinking: "you can't prove a negative." But that is not true. A negative can be proven. For example, I do not believe that elephants can fly like dumbo. I assert that flying elephants do not exist on this planet. My proof is that elephants do not have the genetic equipment and wherewithal to fly as birds do. I have just proven a negative.
Well, you perhaps assert that Jesus is not true (I am assuming that this is what you are doing, right?) Well, your job (in this scenario) is to prove that Jesus is not true. You may not see Him but does that mean that He is not true? No! Oh, sorry, I should have said, "no," without the exclamation. But I wanted to emphasize that. Just because you cannot perceive something with your senses does not mean that it does not exist. For example, can you see wind? Can you see radio waves? Can you see gravity? Can you see the fourth dimension? You can see the effect of wind or radio waves or gravity but you cannot see them per se.
But, guess what lord xyz all of those examples that I have provided exist! 💃
So, yes you can prove a negative if it truly does not exist. But in this case that is impossible because Jesus Christ does exist. But the burden of proof that He does not exist rests with you not me. My job (only in this scenario and not in the real world in terms of my preaching the gospel) is to prove that Jesus does exist and your job is to prove that He does not.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Some people can do great things that others cannot.JIA has this perspective that we are severely limitted and incapable beings, and that we can only acheive ANY kind of power through imaginary characters God and Satan.
Humankind has done great things before Christianity came about, and without the backing of Judaism.
JIA does not realize the power that human beings already have. He is either ignorant to it, or rejects it.
JIA even denounces being a good person, as useless, because he beleives that without Jesus there is no good.
He has a very limitted perspective on life and morality, and despite your input, he will not be open to it.
God is not imaginary and neither is satan.
Like what?
What power?
I have denounced being a good person, I have simply stated that being good does not save you or gain you entrance into Heaven. I never said that without Jesus there is no good, you are putting words in my mouth.
I do not believe that my perspective is limited it is just not open to mainstream society’s ungodly philosophy towards life. I live my life responsibly before God (as best as I can). Do you know what I mean? 😕
That's an extremely well put point. Many Atheists have grown to do great things without God. Can you explain psychics? Did they attain the ability of Clairvoyance from Satan. Do the flashes I get in my head result from demonic intervene. What about the religions before Christianity? Like *cough*Wicca*cough*... Are they wrong because they serve different gods than yourself? There's life outside of the bible. People with emotions, thoughts, and perspectives.
Atheists are still lost without Jesus Christ. I believe that clairvoyance is demonic. What about religions before Christianity? Yes, they are wrong because Jesus is the one, true God. There is no other God beside the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Sure, there is life outside of the Bible—I am living one. I have emotions, thoughts, and perspectives too.
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But you live one that says that you have the only correct lifestyle. That's extremely immoral and wrong. I have flashes in my head (not exactly visions) that sometimes predict what's to happen. I've had them for as long as I remember. Am I a demon? Or posessed by one?
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
But you live one that says that you have the only correct lifestyle. That's extremely immoral and wrong. I have flashes in my head (not exactly visions) that sometimes predict what's to happen. I've had them for as long as I remember. Am I a demon? Or posessed by one?
Based on the activities that you have admitted giving yourself to and that you have engaged in you may have a demon (you have dabbled in the occult and probably incurred demons which impart that clairvoyant ability to you).
That ability (which is supernatural) comes from somewhere, and no it is not God.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Based on the activities that you have admitted giving yourself to and that you have engaged in you [b]may have a demon (you have dabbled in the occult and probably incurred demons which impart that clairvoyant ability to you).That ability (which is supernatural) comes from somewhere, and no it is not God. [/B]
Didn't God create everything though? "In the beginning..." so on and so forth.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Based on the activities that you have admitted giving yourself to and that you have engaged in you [b]may have a demon (you have dabbled in the occult and probably incurred demons which impart that clairvoyant ability to you).That ability (which is supernatural) comes from somewhere, and no it is not God. [/B]
O_O So as an infant I dabbled in the occult? Therefore now I am gifted with Clairvoyance? I was one smart cookie! ^_^
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveIf you look at the first scene with him on the building you will see that the sky is overcast and there is no direct light on him, hence no shadows being cast on the building as he floats around for a bit or on the guys filming, then in the next shot of him leaving the first building it is bright and sunny with crisp shadows on his left side. So how is this possible, film cuts.
What lighting are you referring to?Give me a reference number such as the time this occurred on the video (e.g. 2:10).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
First, show me proof that they do use demons.Oh, and I just proved a negative, read the following:
First prove that He is not true? I know what you are thinking: "you can't prove a negative." But that is not true. A negative can be proven. For example, I do not believe that elephants can fly like dumbo. I assert that flying elephants do not exist on this planet. My proof is that elephants do not have the genetic equipment and wherewithal to fly as birds do. I have just proven a negative.
You are aware I meant for you to prove them to be true and not just prove them in general. Are you honestly telling me you could not see the underlying implication in that. Okay, I'll comply, since there is no proof that Blaine or Angel uses Witch-Craft in their performances then logic dictates that they do not use Witch-Craft in there spells. unless there is proof showing them using Witch-Craft (Which there isn't), that claim is false.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Well, you perhaps assert that Jesus is not true (I am assuming that this is what you are doing, right?) Well, your job (in this scenario) is to prove that Jesus is not true.
"Prove that Jesus is not True"
WTF does that mean, do you mean to dis-prove his exsistence?
If that's what you mean't, I already did. There's no evidence supporting the notion of his exsistence therefore logic dictates that he doesn't exsisted.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You may not see Him but does that mean that He is not true?
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveJust because you cannot perceive something with your senses does not mean that it does not exist.
And the same applies if we reverse the principle of your saying, just because your sense's cannot percieve something doesn't mean it does exsist.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
For example, can you see wind? Can you see radio waves? Can you see gravity? Can you see the fourth dimension? You can see the effect of wind or radio waves or gravity but you cannot see them per se.
But, guess what lord xyz all of those examples that I have provided exist! 💃
Visual evidence is not the only type of eveidence. Your analogy is flawed, greatly.