Kingpin Vs Wolverine

Logan will win both times.

Logan far more experience and skilled fighter.

Logans faster with far superior stamina. Logan also has superior durability and can take kingpin best shots with a smile.

Also who ever said kingpin was stronger or far stronger could not be further from the truth.

Kingpin does not have a single feat that puts him over wolverine in terms of strength. Logan is roughly in the 2 ton range.

Kingpin crush a man head.............which is impressive though still fails to out do wolverine. Logan has punched a hole through a man and shoved a granade in side the mans stomck. He also been stated quite a few times at having to hold back when he punches becuase he crush normal humans skulls............

So Logan wins both fights.

Hypothetically, what if Kingpin puts Wolverine in a rear naked choke, or possibly a guillotine? Don't ask me how that second one will work.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Spider-man wasn't exausted, he just realised it won't work. So he stopped.

Wolverine wins both fights.

Spiderman was exhausted.. Not only does he state that he's given it everything he's got but after the fight's over he comments about how his legs are like jelly.

Originally posted by llagrok
Not really, Kingpin is human. Though it's possible that he can beat up gangsters and such, he will NOT beat up Wolverine.

Did NO ONE read "hunted" ? When Wolverine did some time in jail, where they held back his adamantium knives and healing factor. He was still able to beat up most people, including badboys like Creel. Wolverine has tons of great showings against really strong human beings.

Wolverine takes him out both times.

Thats because everyone in that Prison had their power inhibited and all of a sudden it was the guys that had actual fighting talent that ruled the roost.

Guys like Batroc were the big bad in that prison cause they had no powers to begin with and could kick the other guys asses.

Creel is a big guy and actually the boxer who went down to DDs father when Jack was meant to take the fall but hes not on Kingpins level hand to hand wise.

I'm not saying Kingpin is better than Logan but hes a very good hand to hand combatant, very strong and his size makes him quite durable to blunt force trauma.

Originally posted by GGS
You've obviously never been sat on by a fat person then 💃

Since I am a fat man no. Mister Insensitive 🙁

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Ultimate maybe?

In the old X-men comics Xavier attacked sentinels and could bend metal with his telepathy. Don't ask me how..

Originally posted by braz
Idunno, I've heard of Kingpin doing things like lifting cars.

But it doesn't matter. Everything Kingpin can do, Wolverine can do also. Only faster and better.

Kingpin has one fight every five years (if that). Wolverine has fought half of the Marvel Universe.

Wolverine will beat Kingpin so fast that it even won't be funny. Unlike Spider-Man, Wolverine doesn't hold back.

I'm cool with Logan winning both scenarios, but the level of KP ignorance from people who are pretending to know what they're talking about is appalling.

KP = Classic Spidey in a brawl.

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This coming from a huge Spider-man fan. It's not just a one-time thing. He bested Spidey more than once, has trashed the hell out of Cap, Red Skull, Batman in a crossover, etc. He's for real, and Logan would have his work cut out for him (pun intended) in the first scenario. I could see it going either way.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'm cool with Logan winning both scenarios, but the level of KP ignorance from people who are pretending to know what they're talking about is appalling.

KP = Classic Spidey in a brawl.

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This coming from a huge Spider-man fan. It's not just a one-time thing. He bested Spidey more than once, has trashed the hell out of Cap, Red Skull, Batman in a crossover, etc. He's for real, and Logan would have his work cut out for him (pun intended) in the first scenario. I could see it going either way.

Logan is kingpin, but better. There no reason kingpin should be able to split it. KIngpin may get 2-4 wins maybe. He not getting 5. Oh and I know quite a bit about kinpin and he has yet to show any superiority to wolverine even classic kingpin.

in the second scenerior kingpin would be lucky to get one.

Originally posted by llagrok
Not really, Kingpin is human. Though it's possible that he can beat up gangsters and such, he will NOT beat up Wolverine.

Did NO ONE read "hunted" ? When Wolverine did some time in jail, where they held back his adamantium knives and healing factor. He was still able to beat up most people, including badboys like Creel. Wolverine has tons of great showings against really strong human beings.

Wolverine takes him out both times.

Originally posted by capt it up
Logan also has superior durability and can take kingpin best shots with a smile.

Kingpin can do the exact same thing though.

Logan wins both.

These are examples of his strength

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http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/29/steelshatterqv1tj3.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1030/shattersteel2po6ur1.jpg

More interesting fight would be
Bone claw Wolverine without HF vs. Kingpin
Logan would have to train some time, about a week, learning again how to fight without adamantium and HF. Then he should deal with Kingpin.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'm cool with Logan winning both scenarios, but the level of KP ignorance from people who are pretending to know what they're talking about is appalling.

KP = Classic Spidey in a brawl.

✅

This coming from a huge Spider-man fan. It's not just a one-time thing. He bested Spidey more than once, has trashed the hell out of Cap, Red Skull, Batman in a crossover, etc. He's for real, and Logan would have his work cut out for him (pun intended) in the first scenario. I could see it going either way.

Digi, you can't use crossovers as evidence. If we are, then Wolverine beats Lobo. Kingpin is a human, which means that the old comics are wrong. I mean, if we're going to follow the 70s then Wolverine doesn't even have claws. Wasn't that what they had in mind for him? Gloves with Claws.

Anyways, I've probably read more Spidey than X-men (webhead owns) and I've read a fair share of Daredevil as well. I haven't seen him in any recents fights besides the Civil War ones. Based on his feats there he's just an incredibly strong human, peak human at best.

Wolverine is above peak human, Kingpin can NOT be above peak human.

Wolverine wins both times. Although I'm not sure about the first fight.

Originally posted by llagrok
Digi, you can't use crossovers as evidence. If we are, then Wolverine beats Lobo. Kingpin is a human, which means that the old comics are wrong. I mean, if we're going to follow the 70s then Wolverine doesn't even have claws. Wasn't that what they had in mind for him? Gloves with Claws.

Anyways, I've probably read more Spidey than X-men (webhead owns) and I've read a fair share of Daredevil as well. I haven't seen him in any recents fights besides the Civil War ones. Based on his feats there he's just an incredibly strong human, peak human at best.

Wolverine is above peak human, Kingpin can NOT be above peak human.

Ok, take out the crossover. You still have a body of work that suggests exactly what I'm trying to say. They weren't fluke occurences. You can't call every brawl showing he's ever had "incorrect writing".

Kingpin is above peak human (Classic at least...he hasn't fought anyone seriously in years, so we don't know about current). He thrashed the sh*t out of Cap, has overpowered Spider-Man on more than one occasion, and has plenty of other showings.

The respect thread I made didn't hide any bad showings. It just shows him in his various fights, where he's always proven himself to be at the level of people who are > peak human.

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So as I said before, I have no problem with Wolverin winning both scenarios (due to his healing when he doesn't have his claws). But saying that Logan's stronger than KP is just wrong.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Ok, take out the crossover. You still have a body of work that suggests exactly what I'm trying to say. They weren't fluke occurences. You can't call every brawl showing he's ever had "incorrect writing".

Kingpin is above peak human (Classic at least...he hasn't fought anyone seriously in years, so we don't know about current). He thrashed the sh*t out of Cap, has overpowered Spider-Man on more than one occasion, and has plenty of other showings.

The respect thread I made didn't hide any bad showings. It just shows him in his various fights, where he's always proven himself to be at the level of people who are > peak human.

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So as I said before, I have no problem with Wolverin winning both scenarios (due to his healing when he doesn't have his claws). But saying that Logan's stronger than KP is just wrong.

Classic Spidy (an I mean Amazing SM 200 and below) was only around class 2-5 in strength, Kingpin matching that isn't a huge stretch of the imagination... even Wolverine and Cap have strength feats that suggest similar strength levels.

Being class 2-5 shouldn't be possible for a normal human being though.

Anyways, strength is all Kingpin has, which isn't enough to take out Wolverine. Wolverine has stood up after taking hits from Namor, Wrecker and Colossus. Kingpin can't knock him out.

P.S I did see Kingpin in daredevil two or three years back. He ripped off a guy's arm, lol.

Originally posted by llagrok
Being class 2-5 shouldn't be possible for a normal human being though.

Anyways, strength is all Kingpin has, which isn't enough to take out Wolverine. Wolverine has stood up after taking hits from Namor, Wrecker and Colossus. Kingpin can't knock him out.

P.S I did see Kingpin in daredevil two or three years back. He ripped off a guy's arm, lol.

*Shrug*

It's a comic. Being super smart apparently gives one the ability to stop a tank by throwing a pepple at it... "normal" guys lifting 2-5 tons has more grounding in reality then 99% of what happens in a comics.

I remember Kingpin ripping of that guys arm 🙂

Kingpin is more durable than Cap it seems.

Kingpin took 6 shots and lived.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Classic Spidy (an I mean Amazing SM 200 and below) was only around class 2-5 in strength

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He's always been a Class 10, even in the early days. He has feats as early as ASM #33 that are at least that, and most likely >>> 10 tons (there might be earlier ones...that's just the first I remember)