unlikely. I highly doubt George Lucas is going to let his greatest hero get killed. Not to mention I fail to see how he would become more powerful than Luke. As the grandson of the force and stronger than Palpatine, Luke stands unrivaled. How does the great grandson have as much or more force potential than his elder
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"He will kill Luke when all is said and done"
Darth Dingbat is never going to be stronger than Luke, in any shape or form. If Luke was asleep, surrounded by ysalamari, tied up, blinded, and in chains, he *might* lose to Jacen, but only if Jacen has first strike.
In a fight that's actually fair, the self-deluding idiot gets his neck snapped by the Jedi Grandmaster.
Luke FTW.
Well Anakin had potential double palpatines, then Lucas said Luke has the same as him, now logically Leia would have the same two being his twin but as she has had very off and on training she hasnt achieved it but its still there. Then her children get that same potential. If Luke can have the same as anakin with one force sensitive parent and one norma parent than theres no reason that Jacen having the same set up wouldnt have all the potential too
Neither was padme but Luke got all of Anakins so i dont see why Jacen wouldnt of inherited all of Leia's dormant potential. The books make tons of refrences that imply Jacen has Anakins potential. Lumiya/Vegere picked him because he was the grandson of Anakin Skywalker, the LotF books have been building up to a fight between Luke and Jacen which will be a quick one sided and boring fight unless Jacen has the same potential power
Leia didn't have Luke's potential, so its very unlikely Jacen had a higher potential than Luke, much less the same. Vergere and Lumiya picked him up because they saw he could be corrupted, and Luke couldn't. They picked up Jacen when he was young, they wouldn't mess with Luke who was more powerful than them.
The whole biology thing about potential can't be true. It's only partially genetic. If it were fully dependent on a persons parents than Anakin, Jacen, and Jaina would all have equal potential, but that's not true. Anakin definately had more potential than his brother and sister.
Luke and Leia also don't appear to have equal potential. Leia isn't nearly as strong as Luke was in DE, not even close. She has about as much training, if not MORE, than Luke had by that point. Having strong Force sensitive parents may aid in Force sensitivity being strong, but it alone isn't the deciding factor.
If it were true, the strongest Force Users all would have been the first ever born before their potential got muddied by non-Force User blood.
Basically there is no way that Jacen can become even close to strong enough to take on the Jedi Order by himself. Even if he could become stronger than Luke, which there is no way that would happen by the time this series will be over if it happens at all, Luke would just keep some sort of Jedi Bodyguard with him. As of now I'd say that Kyp, Corran, and Kyle would all take him. Streen, Kam, Saba, Kenth, Jaina, Zekk, and maybe Raynar once he's recovered (which should be finished soon) would be able to give him a hard time on their own. Luke plus and of these people would be in little to no danger.
What would be cool is if Boba died killing Jacen, saving Han's life or something.
Potential isnt power, its how much raw force power you could have, Leia could have all the power luke has but she has had far less training, practice and commitment to the jedi way so it was never achieved.
The three Solo kids do have equal potential but Anakin do to all his time fighting the vong alone and his extra-zealous approach to his training so that he would feel that he deserved Chewie's sacrifice allowed him to achieve his potential at a faster rate than his siblings.
There is no way Vegere picked up jacen because she saw he was "corrupted", in those books he was the least violent of any jedi.
Having a non-force sensitive parent doesnt matter otherwise Luke would have far less potential than Anakin which according to Lucas he has EQUAL
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
Potential isnt power, its how much raw force power you could have, Leia could have all the power luke has but she has had far less training, practice and commitment to the jedi way so it was never achieved.
Omg I hate noobs. I'm going to answer this with a quote from my post you were responding to. "Leia isn't nearly as strong as Luke was in DE, not even close. She has about as much training, if not MORE, than Luke had by that point."
If it were true that Force potential is purely genetic, the strongest Force Users all would have been the first ever born before their potential got muddied by non-Force User blood.
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
The three Solo kids do have equal potential but Anakin do to all his time fighting the vong alone and his extra-zealous approach to his training so that he would feel that he deserved Chewie's sacrifice allowed him to achieve his potential at a faster rate than his siblings.
BS. Anakin was directly stated to be stronger than his siblings in the NJO books. He was the one Kyp knew had more potential then himself.
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
There is no way Vegere picked up jacen because she saw he was "corrupted", in those books he was the least violent of any jedi.
It was because he fell into her lap.
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
Having a non-force sensitive parent doesnt matter otherwise Luke would have far less potential than Anakin which according to Lucas he has EQUAL
Actually this is a steaming pile of shit. Luke had the potential to become what Anakin should have been. That can be any number of things. I know exactly which quote you're talking about and there is nothing in it that puts Anakin's potential equal to Luke's. So stop being a noob.
I'm a noob huh?
Leia hasnt had even near the expierence that Luke has had, she doesnt fight,train or even use the force as much so of course she could not of achieved the same level of power luke did.
Kyp thought he had more power than Luke did at one point so going by his POV is beyond stupid.
What else could that quote mean? Combined with luke doing things no one else could it all fits. Unless you think Luke is weaker than anakin too?
So how am i a noob? Maybe because I know what i'm talking about and i dont have to insult people because my arguement is so empty like yours?
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
why would one of them have any more potential than another?
Probably because they're two different people.
same parents after all
Nonsense.
The fact that they share parents is entirely irrelevant. By this logic, Cay Qel-Droma should have had potential on par with Ulic's. As this clearly wasn't the case, your assertion holds no water.
and the force can be inherited
No shit, Sherlock. But the amount of Force potential one may get from their parent(s) can differ (inasmuch as it may be higher, or lower).
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
I'm a noob huh?
You've been here for two days and you're acting like an idiot, so yeah, you're a noob.
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
Leia hasnt had even near the expierence that Luke has had, she doesnt fight,train or even use the force as much so of course she could not of achieved the same level of power luke did.
I'm going to quote the same sentence just for you a second time, "Leia isn't nearly as strong as Luke was in DE, not even close. She has about as much training, if not MORE, than Luke had by that point."
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
Kyp thought he had more power than Luke did at one point so going by his POV is beyond stupid.
My god, he had one stupid thought. He was a little arrogant about his powers in the beginning, but he certainly got wiser since then. If anything that makes his admission of being weaker than someone all the more impressive.
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
What else could that quote mean? Combined with luke doing things no one else could it all fits. Unless you think Luke is weaker than anakin too?
How about the one destined to destroy the Sith? Or the strongest person ever to have lived? Doesn't mean that Anakin would have been equally strong, just that Luke was next in line and thus got that position after Anakin's demise.
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
So how am i a noob? Maybe because I know what i'm talking about and i dont have to insult people because my arguement is so empty like yours?
Dude, get your head out of your arse. You've been here for 2 days. You apparently don't even know how to use the quote feature, or even bold the text of other people's post to clarify what you're talking about. Newsflash, you don't know what you're talking about. Learn a little.
Calm down guy its just a forum no reason to freak out, if our opinions differ than so be it but just because i'm new to this particular forum out of all the sw forums on the internet doesnt make me a noob who doesnt know what i'm talking about.
You quoting the same sentence over and over and me argue against it just shows thats your only arguement on the subject, so tell me how do you figure that leia has anywhere near Lukes expierence with the force? Or do you only skim the books and not notice that luke does so much more in that field than she.
If Leia was so much weaker than luke why did yoda say that "there was another" when no one thought that Vader could be redeemed and him and Sidious had to be defeated by a skywalker's child the only ones who would have enough potential power to win. That is implying that Yoda and Obiwan thought Leia could defeat sidious, how could they know the exact potential of Leia or Luke unless potential is passed down at a certain amount whether all of it or only some.
saying that Leia couldnt do everything Luke could makes no sense, isnt supported by the movies and more than anything shows whos the real SW noob here
Originally posted by kevin-nivek
Neither was padme but Luke got all of Anakins so i dont see why Jacen wouldnt of inherited all of Leia's dormant potential. The books make tons of refrences that imply Jacen has Anakins potential. Lumiya/Vegere picked him because he was the grandson of Anakin Skywalker, the LotF books have been building up to a fight between Luke and Jacen which will be a quick one sided and boring fight unless Jacen has the same potential power
True.
Luke had potential comparable to Anakin's, but Jacen? Jacen's father is Han Solo, by the way. Did we all forget that he's not a Jedi?
Jacen does not have the same potential as Luke...
You're right REX, but don't you think that when Luke and Jacen eventually fight in LOTF novel Invincible that Jacen will be just as if not stronger than Luke?