Originally posted by Faceman
Hey Gorbag, welcome to the thread ! Current Wrecker , and yes a KO, would mean he wins for purposes of this thread.
Yep hello thx for the invitation 😉 ^^
Current Wrecker is awesome powerful, however I think Logan can take this... I will explain why.
When New Avengers first met Wrecker, he kicked everyone's ass, including Spidey, Iron Man, Wolvie (a bit, he just used wall crawler to put Logan away for some time😉) Cap was not so involved in the fight, he just threw his shield to stop Wrecker from hurting Spider-Man. It is a pity 'cause Cap showed his skills when fighting Loki. Nevermind, what about Wolverine... he leaped to the Wrecked intended to eviscerate him or even kill. But Wrecky showed superhuman reflexes and tossed Spidey to him. Finally he got KOed by Hulk. And what we have there - none of the team was able to show true potential 'cause their cooperation wasn't so good and Wrecker used this.
Or like on these scans, N Avengers#7 right, Wolverine got smacked away 'cause he attacked too fast when Wrecker was pissed. In the fight one on one, Wrecker would have problems with each Avenger, even with Cap if Steve sneaked attacked him first (like he did to Loki).
Spider Man got defeated at N Av first fight with him, but on the other hand Peter went toe to toe with Morlun...
Wolverine went toe to toe with powerhouses.
Iron Man too.
Cap's fighting skills and adamantium plus shield are nice advantages + he gave a hard time to Loki, as I mentioned before.
What I can say... it's hard, maybe 7/10 for Wolvie... in one on one fight he doesn't need to care his claws would hurt teammates and he would show full potential, I think.
Originally posted by Gorbag
Yep hello thx for the invitation 😉 ^^
Current Wrecker is awesome powerful, however I think Logan can take this... I will explain why.When New Avengers first met Wrecker, he kicked everyone's ass, including Spidey, Iron Man, Wolvie (a bit, he just used wall crawler to put Logan away for some time😉) Cap was not so involved in the fight, he just threw his shield to stop Wrecker from hurting Spider-Man. It is a pity 'cause Cap showed his skills when fighting Loki. Nevermind, what about Wolverine... he leaped to the Wrecked intended to eviscerate him or even kill. But Wrecky showed superhuman reflexes and tossed Spidey to him. Finally he got KOed by Hulk. And what we have there - none of the team was able to show true potential 'cause their cooperation wasn't so good and Wrecker used this.
Or like on these scans, N Avengers#7 right, Wolverine got smacked away 'cause he attacked too fast when Wrecker was pissed. In the fight one on one, Wrecker would have problems with each Avenger, even with Cap if Steve sneaked attacked him first (like he did to Loki).
Spider Man got defeated at N Av first fight with him, but on the other hand Peter went toe to toe with Morlun...
Wolverine went toe to toe with powerhouses.
Iron Man too.
Cap's fighting skills and adamantium plus shield are nice advantages + he gave a hard time to Loki, as I mentioned before.What I can say... it's hard, maybe 7/10 for Wolvie... in one on one fight he doesn't need to care his claws would hurt teammates and he would show full potential, I think.
😐 Wolvie couldn't beat a distracted bloodlusted Wrecker even with an entire team of people backing him up.
Since BFR and KO are both a route to victory on KMC (as you really should understand) Wolvie will get destroyed.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😐 Wolvie couldn't beat a distracted bloodlusted Wrecker even with an entire team of people backing him up.Since BFR and KO are both a route to victory on KMC (as you really should understand) Wolvie will get destroyed.
He wasn't totally KOed. And yes, Wrecker smacked him away because Logan underestimated his reflexes. But look again. Spidey said: "Ah, man, when wolverine grows his face back, he's really gonna be pretty upset". Berserker rage enabled Logan to defeat Kierrok, Wendigo or Hulk... so he's gonna deal even with Wrecker.
Originally posted by Gorbag
He wasn't totally KOed. And yes, Wrecker smacked him away because Logan underestimated his reflexes. But look again. Spidey said: "Ah, man, when wolverine grows his face back, he's really gonna be pretty upset". Berserker rage enabled Logan to defeat Kierrok, Wendigo or Hulk... so he's gonna deal even with Wrecker.
Not if he lands in another state.
And this isn't Berserker Wolvie this is just normal Wolverine against current Wrecker. The same guy that Logan couldn't beat even though he had a ton of help.
Originally posted by Gorbag
He wasn't totally KOed. And yes, Wrecker smacked him away because Logan underestimated his reflexes.
Originally posted by Gorbag
But look again. Spidey said: "Ah, man, when wolverine grows his face back, he's really gonna be pretty upset". Berserker rage enabled Logan to defeat Kierrok, Wendigo or Hulk... so he's gonna deal even with Wrecker.
Wrecker would own wolverine all day.
note he was able to grab wolverine hand in mid combat.
Originally posted by PriestDigi, this thread is over please close.... 😂
How the heck do u know if wolverine underestimated the wreckers reflexes?. he got owned, face it.here's ur berserker rage wolverine after he re grew his face the second time around.
Wrecker would own wolverine all day.
note he was able to grab wolverine hand in mid combat.
Originally posted by Estacado
Seriously wolvie fanboys are getting really ridiculous....
If the NA can't handle one class 90 guy, then it's ****ing pathetic. That's like Colossus beating up all of them or the Thing.
Don't talk like Wolverine's never been in a fight before, he's got more experienced than the Wrecking Crew together. When he's on his own, odds are he'd fight a lot smarter than he just did.
You don't rip up 30 years of good showings against incredibly strong and fast characters simply because they decided to buff up Wrecker and put the New Avengers down.
Sabretooth can take out both Wendigo and Sasquatch in under 30 minutes. He has less skill than Wolverine and slightly better physical features.
Since when was strength EVERYTHING in a fight? Does unbelievable skill count for nothing? If Wolverine canned the leap attack thing which works once every century, and starts fighting like he did against Namor, then he could definitely give Wrecker a run for his money.
Old Wrecker wins 2/10
Current 7/10
Originally posted by llagrok
Since when was strength EVERYTHING in a fight? Does unbelievable skill count for nothing? If Wolverine canned the leap attack thing which works once every century, and starts fighting like he did against Namor, then he could definitely give Wrecker a run for his money.
But Wreck managed to Logan's hand. He hit him several times so he's clearky no slow poke. The claws were all but useless for much of the issue as well.
So basicly even with other people pounding on Wrecker Wolverines much vaunted skill was useless.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But Wreck managed to Logan's hand. He hit him several times so he's clearky no slow poke. The claws were all but useless for much of the issue as well.So basicly even with other people pounding on Wrecker Wolverines much vaunted skill was useless.
Yes, in ONE comic.
Wolverine is one of the most skilled martial artists in the marvel universe. You can't rule out that based on one bad showing.
Originally posted by llagrok
Yes, in ONE comic.Wolverine is one of the most skilled martial artists in the marvel universe. You can't rule out that based on one bad showing.
I'm not. I'm just pointing out that skill means jack shit when your opponent is all but invulnerable to your attacks and can BFR you with one shot.
Originally posted by Priest
How the heck do u know if wolverine underestimated the wreckers reflexes?. he got owned, face it.here's ur berserker rage wolverine after he re grew his face the second time around.
Wrecker would own wolverine all day.
note he was able to grab wolverine hand in mid combat.
How the heck I know? 'Cause Wolverine knew very little about his foe. Now he wouldn't be surprised so easy. Next thing. Wrecker got owned by Hulk faster than Wolvie ever did... Wrecker hit Logan hard, tossed him, OK. He did his best. It is similar how Logan fought Kierrok... on the fight beginning he had problem, later he did better, even defeat Kierrok because of the fury unleashed. Logan has stabbed Namor while flying, who is quite fast and very durable... I'm pretty sure he'd deal with Wrecker. First he analyzes his foe's style then counter attack seriously... like in Warhawk or John Howlett fight... 😮💨