Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Again, this is not JIA bashing forum. If you have a problem, sort it out in PMs.If you cannot argue with JIA without being assertive and ridiculing, then perhaps debating with him should be scrapped all together.
I'm sorry, but I have not been on all weekend, and had not read the part of the thread were you were rightfully getting onto people's case about bashing until after I posted a reply to Goddess Kali. I was not intending to bash JIA, I was giving my a true assessment. Again sorry for being off topic.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm sorry, but I have not been on all weekend, and had not read the part of the thread were you were rightfully getting onto people's case about bashing until after I posted a reply to Goddess Kali. I was not intending to bash JIA, I was giving my a true assessment. Again sorry for being off topic.
I didn't mean you in particular, or even Kali, I was speaking general. Not just now, but for a while now.
I just believe there can be a discussion with JIA without ''you are stoopid'' argument. Some of us do not believe in Christianity, and no matter what is said, we ain't gonna change our minds.
Just like JIA won't become non-Christian because everyone is having a go at him.
Im sure those with more knowledge of the Bible, would be able to have debate with JIA and counterpart everything that he writes (as far as I understand - Bible is known for many contradictions).
Originally posted by debbiejo
Some believe it could mean calling the works of god from satan. Some believe it's denying Jesus as God.
Denying jesus as GOD? Jesus isn´t god, but the son of God. If not then who was he praying to, HIMSELF. Ok thats another argument.
As for the Trinity which someone mentioned, The trinity is pagan, many had divine triads of their own, including some Babylonian cults. The Trinity was adapted at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD so some possible convertees who wanted to keep their traditions would be happy.
Jesus states that the Father is greater than he is, so how can he be God.
Another argument I know, but in a way part of the Holy spirit discussion.
Originally posted by leonheartmmLet me guess... you read the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts yourself and found them? No wait that doesn't fit. So you went to a website that uses the KJV and found a couple of contradictions? Wow, you sure are being scholarly.
the bible has upwards of two thousands black and white contradictions. on the other hand, the actual number is in atleast tens of thousands.
I use the link below, it is Scholarly as it gets, with various versions, comments and original greek, hebrew text (dunno if the armiac is there)
A useful tool when looking for peoples mis or out of context quotations.