Darth Tyranus vs Darth Vader (ANH)

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Darth Tyranus vs Darth Vader (ANH)

Ok, what would have happened if count dooku at his best fought the mechanical darth vader from ANH in:

- Lightsaber combat
- Force contest
- All-out

The rematch is on the board of the Invisible Hand, where anakin killed dooku in ROTS.

So? No one?

This has been done before...

Thread?

Originally posted by kamhal
Thread?
Yes, its called darth tyranus vs darth vader, had over 1000posts

oh jesus christ lets not start this again...before the "Vader Haters" start pouring out of the woodworks...

1. Dooku (Vader fanboys agree, right?)
2. Vader wins
3. Dooku wins. He was able to compete with the likes of Yoda and Windu (Yoda thought that Mace and Dooku were equals). He manhandled ROTS Kenobi, beat Sora Bulq and Tholme 2 on 1 (though after an unknown amount of time), and was stated to be one of the strongest Jedi the Order had ever produced, and even stronger as a Sith. Just out of curiosity, Vader fanboys, what is Vader's biggest feat. as a 1/2 machine?

Originally posted by darthsith19
1. Dooku (Vader fanboys agree, right?)
Wrong vader > dooku in saber combat, Djem so > makashi and vaders physical strength and knowledge of dookus techniques will give him the upper hand. Lets also not forget that vaders lightsaber form contains elements of most other saber forms and was described as "Unpredictable" which will indeed give vader the upper hand. Vaders fast too taking down an army of wookies

Originally posted by darthsith19

3. Dooku wins. He was able to compete with the likes of Yoda and Windu (Yoda thought that Mace and Dooku were equals). He manhandled ROTS Kenobi, beat Sora Bulq and Tholme 2 on 1 (though after an unknown amount of time), and was stated to be one of the strongest Jedi the Order had ever produced, and even stronger as a Sith. Just out of curiosity, Vader fanboys, what is Vader's biggest feat. as a 1/2 machine?

After listing all of vaders feats you still ask what is his biggest feat? Lets see shaking down a building with his emotions, destroying an entire medical room by just getting upset, Killing his officers from a far distance away, Crushed and popped a head when it was locked inside a chest and he took down an entire tree to crush the dark woman with the force and oh yes using the terrain to his advantage which proves him a smart fighter. And before you start babbling again. If vader already wins a force fight, He would be even more potent in an all out fight with his range or force attacks some which dooku cant even defend against

Mara jade is "crude" compared to jacen and yet she won because she is a smart fighter, she plans her fights just as vader does

And btw Darthsith, i take it you did not listen to darth subjekts advice of not to start this again? Well you did

Vader having the stronger [physically] form no longer means he automatically bests Dooku in saber combat. RotS Anakin could do that, but he had more than enough pure skill to back his strength up. Vader as of ANH is hardly the swordsman he used to be, relying primarliy on brute strength to win a fight. Dooku can easily take him in a straight saber duel.

End of debate. 😛

All the fights can go either way.

On my way hiding...

Originally posted by vader11
All the fights can go either way.
Heh, like a bi-Oengineered-sexual.

What do that mean? 😆

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Vader having the stronger [physically] form no longer means he automatically bests Dooku in saber combat. RotS Anakin could do that, but he had more than enough pure skill to back his strength up. Vader as of ANH is hardly the swordsman he used to be, relying primarliy on brute strength to win a fight. Dooku can easily take him in a straight saber duel.

End of debate. 😛

Which is why vaders form contains other elements of other forms, despite being weaker in dueling skills than his former self he has taken down several jedis.

Anyways im not gonna debate about vader vs dooku, we promised to let it die and i will let it die provided Dumbshit (darthsith) doesnt keep on rambling

Wrong vader > dooku in saber combat, Djem so > makashi

So then AOTC Anakin should have beat Dooku, right? So then a weak Jedi with Djem So could beat NJO Luke with makashi? Your logic sucks. Dooku is the better saber wielder regardless of what form Vader uses.
and vaders physical strength and knowledge of dookus techniques will give him the upper hand. Lets also not forget that vaders lightsaber form contains elements of most other saber forms and was described as "Unpredictable" which will indeed give vader the upper hand. Vaders fast too taking down an army of wookies

Dooku used to be a lightsaber instructor, he will know Vader's techniques better than Vader will know Dooku's. Where does it say that vader's form is unpredictable and contains elements of most of the saber forms? Oh wow, he took out an army of Wookiees, big deal.
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After listing all of vaders feats you still ask what is his biggest feat?

You listed [i]one[/b] feat. (the tkaing down the Wookiees) and that was after I asked it.
Lets see shaking down a building with his emotions

I said Vader as a 1/2 machine, NOT Anakin.
destroying an entire medical room by just getting upset

He crushed a few objects, he hardly destroyed the entire medical room.
Killing his officers from a far distance away, Crushed and popped a head when it was locked inside a chest and he took down an entire tree to crush the dark woman with the force and oh yes using the terrain to his advantage which proves him a smart fighter.

Oh my god, he can choke an officer from a few hundred meters away, not that impressive, Nadd attacked a Jedi Master from halfway across the galaxy and knocked him to the ground, and that's as a spirit. Oh wow, he knocked down a tree, Dooku knocked down a pillar, that should be harder than knocking down a tree. None of those things you listed are impressive.
If vader already wins a force fight, He would be even more potent in an all out fight with his range or force attacks some which dooku cant even defend against

Unless he engages Dooku in saber combat first, and he always engages in saber combat first, and then Dooku would win. Oh yeah, in the Force fight Dooku actually does in because Vader has no way of blocking lightning.

In SOTE Vader says he wishes that he could be what he once was physically and says that he is only a shell of his former self, so don't try and say that OT Vader > ROTS Vader, either.

Oh yeah, in the Force fight Dooku actually does in because Vader has no way of blocking lightning.
yeah Kenobi had a real hard time blocking it.

I said Vader as a 1/2 machine, NOT Anakin.
Vader is stronger in the force than Anakin.

If there is another thread on this shouldn't this be put in there.

Not this again, lets just leave it(are you listening dartsith), because we are not going to get anywhere, everyone will say the same shit all over again, nobody is going to convince the other side that their guy is stronger, lets just leave it.

When is Djem So > Makashi? In swordsmanship? Bullshit.

Dooku's pillar feat is greater than these? http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=079
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=172

yeah Kenobi had a real hard time blocking it.

Originally Posted by darthsith19
Oh yeah, in the Force fight Dooku actually does in because Vader has no way of blocking lightning.

Vader doesn't have a saber in the Force fight, does he, now?

Vader is stronger in the force than Anakin.

Okay, and Dooku is stronger in the Force than Anakin, too, so what's your point?

Dooku's pillar feat is greater than these? http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=079
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=172

1. The first link, you think you're clever, huh? Look back one page before that and you'll see that Vader cuts about halfway through the tree before knocking it over, and even if he hadn't, metal is stronger than wood.
2. That is somewhat impressive, but it didn't do that much, that guy gets right back up and kicks Vader in the face, look at the next page.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Dooku's pillar feat is greater than these? http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=079
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=172

Is this a good site to look at and download Star Wars comics?