Originally posted by darthgoober
Did you ASK for an instance of him draining an energy manipulator? No. What you asked for was an instance of his draining a sentient being. But for the record the Uni Lord WAS a high level energy manipulator.
OK I'll give you that one. But It doesn't matter, Surfer did this. Not firelord.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Did you ASK for an instance of him draining an energy manipulator? No. What you asked for was an instance of his draining a sentient being. But for the record the Uni Lord WAS a high level energy manipulator.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OK I'll give you that one. But It doesn't matter, Surfer did this. Not firelord.
Originally posted by darthgoober
And that's a completely valid point. I'm no bigger fan of swapping out herald feats than I am of swapping out GL feats, because their personalities factor into HOW they use their powers even if their powers are essentially the same. I was just making sure it was known that it IS possible 😉 .
Conceded. But Firelord is no Silver Surfer. And Surfer is the only herald I see giving Hal a tough time. Just like Surfer pretty much steam rolls any other lantern other than Kyle. Even kilowog would get pwned.
Originally posted by Priest
wat ever is been shown that it can be drained, no need to argue this.
Heralds can be drained as well... The cosmic energy trapping bubble however is a much easier idea.
Originally posted by Priest
give it up, u make an excuses of anything 😂
anyways if u would like i can bring up scan of surfer draining the OA central battery, usually i don't like bring up Cross over evidence up for u ill make and exception.
Feel free to bring up the scan...since SS didn't drain anything from OA...if anything...Hal absorbed Surfers energy with a touch.
Originally posted by quanchi112
comparing in my opinion a normal herald to the greatest green lantern in many peoples eyes. hal beats him 8 out ot 10. kyle beats him 7 out of 10. firelaord isnt that impressive. its like he was created to job to other cosmic space characters.
Firelord isnt a "normal herald". He's the third most powerful other than Surfer and Morg. And he doesnt job as much as people think. He jobbed twice, to Spider-Man and to Morg, but Morg cheapshotted him so it wasnt really that bad. Firelord beats Hal 6/10 and beats Kyle 7/10.
silver surfer,morg,terrax and fallen one are better than him for sure amd possibly stardust. i dont count tyrant cuz he dwarfs the other heralds in power in his depowered version. firelord isnt a joke healrd but clearly there are many that are better than him. he doesnt beat the best and seond best green alnterns. the others ok but not the top two. hal's rep alone guarantees him the win. kyle has done more as well. sorry firelord goes down many many times before he scores the upset.
Originally posted by quanchi112
silver surfer,morg,terrax and fallen one are better than him for sure amd possibly stardust. i dont count tyrant cuz he dwarfs the other heralds in power in his depowered version. firelord isnt a joke healrd but clearly there are many that are better than him. he doesnt beat the best and seond best green alnterns. the others ok but not the top two. hal's rep alone guarantees him the win. kyle has done more as well. sorry firelord goes down many many times before he scores the upset.
Fallen One sucks. Horribly. He literally didnt do jack shit. Never even won a fight or even close to it. All he did was get owned by Thanos, get owned by Skreet, get owned by Galactus, and then get owned by Tenebrous and Aegis. All he ever did was destroy Thanos' ship, which almost any herald is capable of, it's not really that impressive, especially considering Thanos wasnt even phased at all, just had his clothes ripped and was pissed.
Ive already proven Firelord > Terrax:
-When Terrax fought Thor, Thor KILLED him with ease.
-When Terrax fought The Thing and Human Torch, Ben hit Terrax so hard he was doing escape velocity.
-When Terrax fought Surfer, Surfer owned him easily.
-When Terrax fought Morg, Terrax needed Morg's major offense, his Axe, and still got his ass kicked quickly.
-When Terrax fought WOL Morg, they matched Axes, but Terrax' axe quickly broke within a page and he got put down in one forearm shot from Morg. Then later on when Morg lost the PC and Terrax went after him, Terrax still got thrown around.
-When Terrax fought the Annihilation Wave, Terrax got beaten and captured easily by just a handful of seekers.
-When Terrax fought the Hulk (Exiles), Terrax got his ass kicked.
-Terrax's most impressive feat is probably slicing that planet in half in Annihilation: Heralds #1.-Every time Firelord has fought Thor, Firelord has been shown and stated superior (except for one time).
-When Firelord fought the Thing and Human Torch, Firelord easily blasted Ben away, and owned the Human Torch easily.
-Every time Firelord has fought Surfer, Firelord has been shown quite well, and they both have 3 wins over each other, and every win Surfer got over Firelord, Firelord really made him work for it (and vice versa).
-When Firelord fought Morg, Morg cheapshotted him, quickly knocked out Air-Walker, and Firelord still did pretty good against Morg, though this was the ONLY time Terrax ever looked superior to Firelord.
-When Firelord fought WOL Morg, he kept his distance and lasted longer than Terrax, and it took an angry swing of Morg's axe across Firelord's chest to put him down. Also, when Morg lost the PC later on that issue, Firelord put him on the ground in one blast.
-When Firelord fought the Annihilation Wave, Firelord easily beat the handful of seekers that came after him, then went and saved Red Shift and Surfer, and then, along with Stardust and Red Shift, was holding off the Wave for 6 months. He also took down a flagship, and Ravenous. And afterwards, he even took down the Centurions single-handedly.
-When Firelord fought the Hulk, he killed the Hulk in two blasts.
-Firelord destroyed a planet-sized meteor easily many years back, and then not too long ago destroyed a planet easily as well. Also, he took down 5 worlds full of Centurions.
And Stardust probably has Firelord beat in regeneration (not physical durability, just the ability to regenerate), but that's where his advantages over Firelord end.
Surfer and Morg are the top dogs of the heralds. The top 2 without a doubt, and Firelord is right below them.
You obviously know nothing of Firelord.
i still say terrax is better and fallen one. thanos went to galactus's aid to save him from fallen one. and fallen one gettting owned by thanos,tenebrous,aegis, and gaalctus would happen to firelord. tenebrous and aegis took down galactus. so u posting that means nothing. firelord would have had the same thing happen to him. and the big morg storyline morg consdiered terrax his best compettion in the sense they were bloodthirsty warriors with axes. sorry firelord loses. to the heralds and to hal and kyle.
Originally posted by quanchi112
well we agree to disagree.
Nope. You're just flatout wrong. What has Fallen One done that puts him above Firelord? And go ahead and try to refute the points i made of Firelord being superior to Terrax. When you can refute all my points successfully, then this'll be worth my time. But simply saying "i like Terrax and Fallen One more so they'll beat Firelord" doesnt cut it.
fallen one was supposed to be a badass herald. thanos had to save galactus...i think terrax would kill firleord as evident by morg not even giving firelord the time of day. he was nothing. to him. butt the thread itnt even about this. its about hal crushing firelord who has alwys been a midtier cosmic herlad buried in the middle of this esteemed group. hal and kyle are one and two of a group of thousands. even u agree firelord is third to list of a number in the double digits. big difference.