Idea for Spider-Man 4

Ok, so here it goes...

Connors would be trying to grow a new arm, experiment goes wrong, turns into Lizard, etc.

Sergei Kravinoff is a "Crocodile Hunter" like tv star who hunts down rare species for New York's entertainment. However, when an endangered species protection group calls for his show to go off the air, his show is canceled. He is fueled with rage and decides that to regain the people's favor, he must hunt down and kill the new terror of the Lizard. He is also paid a large sum of money to hunt down and capture Spider-Man by an "outside party".

Kraven attacks Spider-Man and Lizard as they are fighting, and it turns into a free for all triple threat. With other stuff happening (that I can't think of) and Peter leaving MJ for Gwen (Bryce Dallas Howard rox) after their relationship hits rock bottom (thanks to Dwayne Johnson... jk) it ends with a huge battle in the jungle between each of them. Spider-Man (who had worked on a cure through the film) eventually injects the cure into the Lizard and he returns to normal. Kraven and Spider-man continue to fight until Kraven is captured by authorities and put in jail for attempted murder.

Kraven is sitting in his jail cell when someone pays him a visit. He says in a very familiar voice "You failed us, Sergei." (Note: The camera is pointed at Kraven the whole time, so you don't exactly know who it is yet) Kraven replies by saying "Us? Who else was in on this?" The audience hears some strange noises. Kraven's expression turns from curiosity to fear. "I thought you died!" The man says, "Oh, we're very much alive... but you won't be!" The audience hears the "Venom screech" from #3 as Kraven curls up and screams for help. (Note: As this is going on, the camera goes closer to Kraven until it is at his face as he is screaming in terror)

So, how is it? Obviously, the man is Eddie Brock (played by Topher Grace) who survived his encounter in #3 and is back with a vengence to destroy Spidey in #5 for humiliating him, taking "his girl" (Gwen) and trying to kill him... He is now a full fledged Venom, complete with the "us" stuff and a "not ridiculous but noticable" tongue. (But no drool)

It's good, but it seems a lot like in the video game as far as Kraven and the Lizard go. And I think fans will want something different that they haven't just seen, if you know what I'm saying. Besides I think it's out of character for Venom to pay off Kraven to kill Spider-man when he'd want the pleasure in doing it himself.

Yeah, I agree. Venom is the type of character that makes sure that things are done by doing it himself. Knowing Venom, he doesn't want anyone to kill Spiderman except him.

I made one too:

Police Captain George Stacy arrives at a highly armed and defended military prison where the worse criminals are held. Captain Stacy has come to investigate one of the criminals, Eddie Brook, Jr. Meanwhile out and about is old Spider-man swinging high through the cities chasing someone who just shoot down an old lady. Spider-man spots the fleeing killer as it is revealed to be Cletus Kasady. Kasady turns and tries to kill Spider-man but fails to do so as Spider-man traps him in his webs.

Police officers arrive to take Kasady away as it is revealed that Kasady has killed many times before. Spider-man heads off to the Daily Bugle where Jameson is waiting for his new pictures of Spider-man. Peter tries to hold back the pictures of Spider-man to show off a more bright side of New York but fails and gives way to Jameson’s demands. Peter heads off to meet Mary Jane at the park. Peter and MJ trade off words of romance.

Meanwhile Stacy continues to question Eddie on the whereabouts of the symbiote now. Eddie continues to tell him he has no idea and is soon inflicted upon great torture. Eddie continues to tell them he has no idea and Stacy finally decides that Eddie is telling the truth. Eddie is thrown back into his cell to join his new cellmate Kasady. The black symbiote appears in the window and bonds with Eddie as Venom is reborn. Venom breaks free but leaves behind a spawn as Kasady watches in amazement.

Spider-man is swinging through the city keeping watch on everything. Spider-man sees a man hanging from a balcony. Spider-man swings over and grabs the man and sets him down on the rooftop. The man turns around to reveal himself to be Eddie who quickly becomes Venom and sucker punches Spider-man. Spider-man falls to the streets below and Venom jumps down following. Spider-man asks who Eddie is suppose to be and he replies, “we are Venom.”

Venom and Spider-man fight it out neither of them willing to back down. Venom grabs a woman and throws her. Spider-man tries to save her but Venom attacks him from behind and throws him into a building. Venom picks up a car and prepares to kill Spider-man when Venom is hit from behind. He turns around to see Carnage laughing away. Kasady reveals his face and tells Venom that the symbiote spawn fused with him to become Carnage.

Venom and Carnage fight and Carnage bests Venom. Venom’s body sneaks to the bottom of the ocean as Carnage goes on a rampage throughout the city. Spider-man recovers from his attack and sees Carnage right as he defeats Venom and heads off. The next day Peter Parker sees at the Daily Bugle that someone has confused Spider-man for Carnage. Peter goes off to meet MJ but instead runs into Gwen Stacy. Gwen tells Peter that her father along with many cops have gone into the construction site to capture a monster.

Peter suits up into Spider-man and goes into the construction zone. Spider-man runs into Stacy who failed to find the monster. Carnage launches a surprise attack knocking over dozens of large bricks. Spider-man jumps out of the way and manages to save two cops but Stacy is crushed by the attack. Carnage is nowhere to be seen. Gwen runs in to see the two fallen cops at the feet of Spider-man and her father’s body crushed.

Gwen believes that Spider-man killed her father but Spider-man pleads with her for a moment before going off to find Carnage. Spider-man runs into Carnage and the two engage in an epic battle. Carnage defeats Spider-man and goes to kill him but Venom saves Spider-man’s life. Venom and Carnage fight it out again as Spider-man slowly comes to. Spider-man wakes up and helps Venom battle Carnage. Carnage jumps out of the fight and knocks Spider-man into a bell causing a loud noise with both Venom and Carnage aching in pain.

Spider-man recalls his battle against Venom from before and decides to use it against Carnage. Spider-man goes to strike the bell again but Carnage stops Spider-man. Venom tackles Carnage and the two fall into the streets below. Cars weave out the way causing a wreck. One of the cars explodes throwing fire everywhere again causing Carnage and Venom to shout out in pain. Spider-man sees this and swings down knocking Carnage into the flames.

Carnage jumps out of the flames and grabs Venom wrapping. Venom tells Spider-man to finish them both off. Spider-man picks up an abandoned car and throws it at the two. Seconds later the car explodes and the two are engulfed in flames. Spider-man jumps and grabs another car and throws it at the two followed by another then another then another until finally nothing but flames are seen. Spider-man thanks Venom for what he did and swings off to go meet MJ.

Why would Eddie Brock be in jail? Beside altering a fake picture, he has done nothing wrong in Spiderman 3. Of course, he did do a lot of bad things as Venom. Then again, Spiderman was the only person that knew that Eddie Brock was Venom...

Originally posted by Yoshi Fanatic
Why would Eddie Brock be in jail? Beside altering a fake picture, he has done nothing wrong in Spiderman 3. Of course, he did do a lot of bad things as Venom. Then again, Spiderman was the only person that knew that Eddie Brock was Venom...

They were taking pictures of the fight left and right and Eddie exposed himself on the taxi cab. I'm sure someone managed to magnify that to get a clear picture of who Venom was.

I got more ideas:

Connors is studying the lizards trying to get to understand them so he can get his missing arm once again. Meanwhile Jameson has just hired Mac Gargan to try to discover the true connection between Peter Parker and Spider-man. Gargan goes off searching for Parker and finds him in the park with MJ. The two are simply enjoying the cool summer day as Gargan keeps a watch on them. Peter feels like someone is watching them but decides to ignore the feeling.

Connors believes he found the correct formula to perfect his cure and injects himself with it. His missing arm grows back. At first the experiment was a success. Connors runs into Peter who is amazed at the fact he has both his arms. Connors informs Peter that his experiment has finally gone right and with no side-effects. Peter is happy for Connors who returns to his home. That night Connors undergoes a horrible transformation that makes him become the Lizard.

The Lizard storms out of his home and into the streets. Cars weave out of the way of the Lizard as the beast runs through New York. Peter arrives home to hear his radio talking about a giant lizard rampaging through the city. Peter suits up to become Spider-man but little does he know across the street on the rooftops stands Gargan with a camera taking pictures of Parker suiting off and swinging to face the Lizard. Gargan decides to follow Spider-man to get a few more pictures just in case.

Spider-man spots the Lizard at the park. Spider-man confronts the Lizard. Spider-man and the Lizard face off at the park. The Lizard manages to escape through the sewer. Spider-man doesn’t go after him. He spots a flash from the bush and uses his web to pull out Gargan. Spider-man breaks his camera before swinging off. Gargan reports to Jameson that Peter is Spider-man but Jameson laughs at his claims and decides that Gargan can’t bring up the evidence so he fires him.

Gargan begs for another chance so Jameson decides to allow him to test out a new battle armor to discover the identity of Spider-man. Gargan went through the transformation to become the Scorpion. Peter arrives at Connors home eager to see how the success of his serum went. Peter finds the door busted open with Connors’ wife Martha shocked. Martha tells Peter that Connors transformed into a terrible beast late last night.

Peter puts one and one together and sees that the Lizard was Connors. Peter looks through his notes and realizes that there is an antidote just in case something like this happens. Peter takes some of the antidote and heads off. He suits up to become Spider-man again and swings off to hunt down the Lizard. While he was out and about the Scorpion ambushes Spider-man. The Scorpion wants to bring Spider-man to Jameson unmasked.

Spider-man fights the Scorpion and manages to defeat him. Spider-man pays no attention to the fallen Scorpion and instead heads down into the sewers to search for Connors. Gargan returns to Jameson who failed at getting Spider-man. Jameson, angered at Gargan, fires him. Gargan becomes insane at that point and knocks Jameson into the wall. Gargan goes to kill Jameson but Jameson convinces him that everything will be alright if he brings Spider-man to him.

The Scorpion heads off to hunt down Spider-man. Spider-man finds the Lizard within the sewers and tries to inject him with the antidote. The Lizard doesn’t want the antidote and so a battle soon erupts between the two. Before long the Scorpion arrives on the scene and attacks Spider-man. Spider-man is between two villains; the Lizard and the Scorpion fighting for his life. The fight is soon taken back to the surface as the Lizard tries to escape.

Spider-man blocks the Lizard’s escape path but is attacked by the Scorpion. Spider-man is taken down as the Scorpion claims victory. Connors begins to take control as the mask is removed to see that Spider-man is Peter. The Lizard attacks the Scorpion in an attempt to save Peter. Spider-man comes to as he sees the Lizard attacking the Scorpion. Scorpion is thrown into the river as the Lizard allows Spider-man to inject him with the antidote.

Connors returns to normal as the Scorpion surfaces again. Spider-man fights the Scorpion. Connors sees a fallen power line and yells to Peter that shocking him may cause the suit to lose its power. Spider-man manages to knock the Scorpion into the power line and it does as planned; but to a greater extent. Trying to escape the lighting Scorpion takes a step forward putting his foot into some water causing the lighting to flow to three cars surrounding the Scorpion.

Spider-man grabs Connors and swings out of the way as the cars explode killing the Scorpion. Connors returns home to find Martha waiting for him. Peter finally asks MJ to marry him which she agrees to. Time passes and then comes a knock on the door. Connors opens it up to find Eddie Brook, Jr. standing at the doorway. Connors ask him what he wants and Eddie simply replies, “you have something that belongs to me.” (because during Spider-man 3 Connors had a sample of the sym.)

Here is a better idea.

http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=27145

This isn't long and written out like all of yours but I think it should involve Eddie Brock Sr, being a construction worker and some of the symbiote that hadn't completely been destroyed gets on him, giving him all of his sons memories, and giving him a reason to want to kill Spider-man. And Lizard should be the other villain. Lizard should take up the first half and Venom should be in the rest but he should be the villain for the last hour since he should return to fight carnage in the next. And maybe things he's done while not fighting spider-man can pop up, like Sandman somehow dying.

Originally posted by Menetnashté
This isn't long and written out like all of yours but I think it should involve Eddie Brock Sr, being a construction worker and some of the symbiote that hadn't completely been destroyed gets on him, giving him all of his sons memories, and giving him a reason to want to kill Spider-man. And Lizard should be the other villain. Lizard should take up the first half and Venom should be in the rest but he should be the villain for the last hour since he should return to fight carnage in the next. And maybe things he's done while not fighting spider-man can pop up, like Sandman somehow dying.

I did not realize that Edward Brock, Sr became Venom in thew comics.

These idea's sound good

Originally posted by Menetnashté
It's good, but it seems a lot like in the video game as far as Kraven and the Lizard go. And I think fans will want something different that they haven't just seen, if you know what I'm saying. Besides I think it's out of character for Venom to pay off Kraven to kill Spider-man when he'd want the pleasure in doing it himself.

I understand exactly what you mean. I wanted Venom to pay off Kraven because NO ONE would expect Venom to pay someone off to eliminate Spider-Man, which would give it a hint of suprise. While I do agree that it is out of character, this isn't exactly the comics, which allows for more original interpretations and new stories to be told. Also, I guess instead of killing Spider-Man, he'd have Kraven bring him to him so he could torture him.

And not using Lizard in the movies would be a waste. He's such a kool visual (a chance to blow us away with great CGI) with an engrossing story.

I think Lizard and Kraven should be in 4 with a Venom cliffhanger or cameo at the end. Then for 5 it would be Venom for most of the movie, then we start to see the "Lethal Protector" around the middle, and then Spidey & Venom vs. Carnage at the end. Then for 6, find a plausible excuse to bring back Norman Osborn and have him lead Shocker, Vulture, Beetle, Electro, and Rhino to make the Sinister Six. That's my ideas...

That's too many villains for a single movie. It should just be Mysterio or the Rhino.

Eddie Brock Sr as Venom in the Spiderman 4 wouldn't be right. How corny would it be for a father to avenge his son by killing the killer? If you all may recall, Eddie Brock's father didn't even like him that much. Also, it'll be like the whole Harry Osborn situation. In other words, instead of a son avenging the death of his father, it would be a father avenging the death of his son. The Eddie Brock from Spiderman 3 should be in Spiderman 4.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
That's too many villains for a single movie. It should just be Mysterio or the Rhino.

I think that you can have six villains in one movie, so long as you do it right. I mean, Rhino, Shocker, Beetle, Electro, and Vulture don't really need much back story, maybe they were all volunteers (except for Vulture, he would be a Oscorp staff member) for a certain Oscorp testing thing and they all received some sort of gadget or power. The person who could drive the story along would be Osborn. It would be a whole lot of action and fight scenes (though you really couldn't have a love story that every Spider-Man movie has had so far)

Originally posted by Yoshi Fanatic
Eddie Brock Sr as Venom in the Spiderman 4 wouldn't be right. How corny would it be for a father to avenge his son by killing the killer? If you all may recall, Eddie Brock's father didn't even like him that much. Also, it'll be like the whole Harry Osborn situation. In other words, instead of a son avenging the death of his father, it would be a father avenging the death of his son. The Eddie Brock from Spiderman 3 should be in Spiderman 4.

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
I did not realize that Edward Brock, Sr became Venom in thew comics.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
I understand exactly what you mean. I wanted Venom to pay off Kraven because NO ONE would expect Venom to pay someone off to eliminate Spider-Man, which would give it a hint of suprise. While I do agree that it is out of character, this isn't exactly the comics, which allows for more original interpretations and new stories to be told. Also, I guess instead of killing Spider-Man, he'd have Kraven bring him to him so he could torture him.

And not using Lizard in the movies would be a waste. He's such a kool visual (a chance to blow us away with great CGI) with an engrossing story.

I think Lizard and Kraven should be in 4 with a Venom cliffhanger or cameo at the end. Then for 5 it would be Venom for most of the movie, then we start to see the "Lethal Protector" around the middle, and then Spidey & Venom vs. Carnage at the end. Then for 6, find a plausible excuse to bring back Norman Osborn and have him lead Shocker, Vulture, Beetle, Electro, and Rhino to make the Sinister Six. That's my ideas...

Mysterio needs to be in a film!!

No, he doesn't. Why would Sam Raimi want Mysterio in Spiderman 4?

Originally posted by Yoshi Fanatic
No, he doesn't. Why would Sam Raimi want Mysterio in Spiderman 4?

Because Mysterio kicks major @$$. And I never said for 4. He can appear in 5.