Originally posted by quanchi112
lots of fanboyism exists on these threads. it comes out in the posts. its easy to spot. there are dc and marvel fanboys everywhere. its very rare to have somone completely in the middle and not to lean over to one side. but to say dc is harder to conquer like iver heard is just plain crazy.
so u admit that u are in the marvel fanboy group right? if u deny that, than yur just stubborn.
Originally posted by TheGame17i will agree i sway to marvels side over dc's, but i will admit when i believe a dc character would whomp a marvel one. i dont like the marvel bashing on here. just keep it to character vs character or the thread. i dont kno whow many times i have heard that dc is harder to conquer than marvel. its untrue. that is a copout answer.
so u admit that u are in the marvel fanboy group right? if u deny that, than yur just stubborn.
if were considering vertigo too{seeing as thas a part of dc}. then thanos easily loses.
LUCIFER, MICHEAL, ELAINE, LOKI, FENRIS, PRESENCE, THE GREAT BEAST, SPEAR OF DESTINY, SAINT OF KILLERS, FULL POWER SWAMP THING, THE ENDLESS, WALLY THE GOD BOY. theyr all more powerful than the heart of the universe. it destroyed the 616 universe and all connected universes, resulting in the death of the mutliverse. but adam warlock was outside the multiverse and was unaffected. lucifer level beings can create multiverses without much drain to their power at all. and can exist in the void. plus stand at ground zero of multiverse destroying explosions.
Originally posted by leonheartmmonly each version of God beats thanos with the heart of the universe. its that simple.
if were considering vertigo too{seeing as thas a part of dc}. then thanos easily loses.LUCIFER, MICHEAL, ELAINE, LOKI, FENRIS, PRESENCE, THE GREAT BEAST, SPEAR OF DESTINY, SAINT OF KILLERS, FULL POWER SWAMP THING, THE ENDLESS, WALLY THE GOD BOY. theyr all more powerful than the heart of the universe. it destroyed the 616 universe and all connected universes, resulting in the death of the mutliverse. but adam warlock was outside the multiverse and was unaffected. lucifer level beings can create multiverses without much drain to their power at all. and can exist in the void. plus stand at ground zero of multiverse destroying explosions.
Originally posted by quanchi112
only each version of God beats thanos with the heart of the universe. its that simple.
that sounds exactly like the kind of statement a person whose stubborn and without evidence wud make. the heart of the universe wasnt equal to god in marvel. the infinity being was greater. so was the beyonder. the ifinity gauntlett might have been neary that strong. the ultimate nullifier can be said to be arguabely just as strong. genis vell with entropy showed a similar feat. wanda in house of M far surpassed it, garning the attention of the OMNIVERSAL guardian roma. roma was also at threat by abraxas. the shiar crystal might do just as much damage. the HOTU only gives one power enough to destroy the 616 reality and all connecting realities. it isnt the power of TOAA. so it loses to almost all the beings i mentioned.
Originally posted by leonheartmmu cant bring in saint of kiler becuz they have different versions of the Almighty. the beyonder was retconned and isnt as powerful as when he first came out anyways. the gauntlet wasnt as powerful becuz it was neevr proven it could take down the living tribunal. plus the tribunal made a ruling so the gems couldnt be used in unison. the heart swallowed him up with ease. that is raw power, thanos never exerted himself and scoffed at their pathetic attack. he would scoff at dcs to and defeat it with his.
that sounds exactly like the kind of statement a person whose stubborn and without evidence wud make. the heart of the universe wasnt equal to god in marvel. the infinity being was greater. so was the beyonder. the ifinity gauntlett might have been neary that strong. the ultimate nullifier can be said to be arguabely just as strong. genis vell with entropy showed a similar feat. wanda in house of M far surpassed it, garning the attention of the OMNIVERSAL guardian roma. roma was also at threat by abraxas. the shiar crystal might do just as much damage. the HOTU only gives one power enough to destroy the 616 reality and all connecting realities. it isnt the power of TOAA. so it loses to almost all the beings i mentioned.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Lucifer with Michael's power would be able to cancel him out.
The Great Darkness and Presence would be albe to do it as well--just cancel him out though, not necessarly win.
not true. using the entire power from the heart{feat wise} thanos was able to destroy eternitym infinity, death and the living tribunal. he also destroyed the 616 UNIVERSE{later substantiated by warlock}, and since all universes are, in current continuity, connected with the 616, they all suposedly got destroyed too. even if they didnt, the LT is compareable{although a little below} to the power of the multiverse, and his death tells us that thanos had around multiversal level DESTROYING REcreating power at max. he didnt have the power to touch anything outside the multiverse{adam warlock was in the void and wasnt affected at all} including the void and the beyond realm{the only two confirmed in marvel at this point}. also the heart of the universe didnt display the power to CREATE a multiverse from NOTHING.
lucifer has on two occasions CREATED a mutliverse from SCRATCH without breaking a sweat. he also is currently ruler of his own multiverse and created ellaine's too. he can exist in the void, and no multiversal/omniversal concept has power over him{that includes the omniversal death/fate}. he stood at ground zero of the demiurgic explosion which had the energy to create a multiverse from SCRATCH as oppsed to recreate it from an already existing one{which is more powerful than the HOTU explosion which killed LT} . he wasnt even bothered, and he can go on to create MORE multiverses without much hesitaion as long as yahweh does not oppose him using his own power to try and confine lucifer's. lucifer alone is far greater than the HOTU is. and the other examples i gave are also of beings/artifacts of equal or more power than the HOTU{ultimate nullifer=equal or more. wanda in house of m=much greater}
nope, micheal kills him. spectar wud probably stalemate or lose.
and no, thas just u using logic based on general concensus, but go to the respect forum, LT sealing the IG doesnt hold as much weight and possibly IG wud have killed LT.
and no, LT is the MULTIVERSAL "JUDGE" his actual power isnt near that of the multiverse, he can destroy multpile UNIVERSES but not the multiverse. his very purpose is to PROTECT the multiverse, sumthing greater than him. much lesss the OMNIVERSE.
furthermore, ur using the same logic with ultimate nullifier, when its actually shown to recreate the entire mutliverse and destroy abraxas{sumthing the OMNIVERSAL guardian roma cudnt control}, just cause LT is more recognizeable and isnt present here, being beaten, doesnt mean the UN was any weaker than HOTU, infact if anytthing, it might have been stronger than it.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
nope, micheal kills him. spectar wud probably stalemate or lose.and no, thas just u using logic based on general concensus, but go to the respect forum, LT sealing the IG doesnt hold as much weight and possibly IG wud have killed LT.
and no, LT is the MULTIVERSAL "JUDGE" his actual power isnt near that of the multiverse, he can destroy multpile UNIVERSES but not the multiverse. his very purpose is to PROTECT the multiverse, sumthing greater than him. much lesss the OMNIVERSE.
furthermore, ur using the same logic with ultimate nullifier, when its actually shown to recreate the entire mutliverse and destroy abraxas{sumthing the OMNIVERSAL guardian roma cudnt control}, just cause LT is more recognizeable and isnt present here, being beaten, doesnt mean the UN was any weaker than HOTU, infact if anytthing, it might have been stronger than it.