Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why is there a big blanked out section in the scan...? 🤨Anyway the Iron Fist thing contradicts the bulk of Nightcrawler's history.
The last scan; the use of dialogue to show something like time is generally a bad idea... unless it expressly indicates time e.g. a sentence crosses two panels. Characters talk in space, Shadowcat talks while phased in the ground. And again that length of time would contradict the bulk of Nightcrawler's history.
In the scan I posted there's a woman in a device that's been triggered to slice her. He has half a second before the blades close in on her. He teleports into the path of blades, saves her and initiates a teleport out within less than half a second. And it doesn't contradict the bulk of his appearances.
Theres a big blanked out section in the first scan because i just wanted to focus on the confrontation between NC and Fist. The blanked out sectin was Fist tossing Wolvie on his ass then knocking Colossus across the room.
Does the Iron fist thing contradict the bulk of NC's history? I really cant say considering i dont have a large bulk of comics with NC in them. If you do and can make that statement, then id have no choice but to concede. However, in some fights that i have seen with NC, hes been able to get tagged either before or after the bamf.
Thanks for clearing up the scan you posted. How do we know that wasnt a high end feat for NC? I usually see NC give off the attack after the bamf which confirms IF's statement. Fighting someone with better awareness and or speed than most may cause a problem for NC.
I can post a multitude of scans where Nightcrawler teleports 3 or more times in single panels attacking multiple people essentially simultaneously if that helps...
The BAMF sound when Nightcrawler teleports is from the air rushing into and out of the space he occupied as he teleports out of and back into the regular 616 dimension, so the effect it occurs simultaneous to his exit or reentry. Likewise the brimstone is a small part of the other dimension escaping into the regular dimension simultaneous to his teleporting.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I can post a multitude of scans where Nightcrawler teleports 3 or more times in single panels attacking multiple people essentially simultaneously if that helps...The BAMF sound when Nightcrawler teleports is from the air rushing into and out of the space he occupied as he teleports out of and back into the regular 616 dimension, so the effect it occurs simultaneous to his exit or reentry. Likewise the brimstone is a small part of the other dimension escaping into the regular dimension simultaneous to his teleporting.
Ive already seen scans where Nightcrawler ports multiple times hitting multiple thugs and jobbers. None of which possess the skill and ability of Iron fist for example. If you have scans of him doing that to someone with the skill and or powerset that Daredevil has, them ill concede.
Each hit he performs appears and is usually stated to come after the bamf takes place. Its the bamf in, then a hit immediately afterwards.
are you implicating that nightcrawler can only teleport super fast against thugs and jobbers and somehow loses ability againts more sound characters?...he did it against avalanche on more than one occasion granted avalanche could be called a jobber but not to the extent of some...thats one that immediatly comes to mind but give me time ill think of more
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ive already seen scans where Nightcrawler ports multiple times hitting multiple thugs and jobbers. None of which possess the skill and ability of Iron fist for example. If you have scans of him doing that to someone with the skill and or powerset that Daredevil has, them ill concede.Each hit he performs appears and is usually stated to come after the bamf takes place. Its the bamf in, then a hit immediately afterwards.
According to you, he'll slow down against skilled opponents dur
X-23 is very skilled, he teleported all around her.
Nightcrawler retains the momentum and movement he had through the teleport. If he leaps through the air and teleports midair he doesn't, have to magically leap off of nothing midair again when he reenters. Likewise a punch. He doesn't teleport hang in midair defying gravity Matrix-style for a couple of seconds punch someone then teleport hang in midair a couple seconds a punch another person when he teleports in series.
P.S. Also for a period of time after being injured in the Morlock Massacre NC couldn't teleport sequentially, so I don't know when exactly the IF scan is from but if it is from then... it's not really valid.
Originally posted by llagrok
According to you, he'll slow down against skilled opponents durX-23 is very skilled, he teleported all around her.
Not at all. What im saying is against someone with extreme skill, or the powerset Daredevil has, it wouldnt be as easy for NC to just bamf n hit. Theyd be better equipped to deal than the common thug or jobber.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Nightcrawler retains the momentum and movement he had through the teleport. If he leaps through the air and teleports midair he doesn't, have to magically leap off of nothing midair again when he reenters. Likewise a punch. He doesn't teleport hang in midair defying gravity Matrix-style for a couple of seconds punch someone then teleport hang in midair a couple seconds a punch another person when he teleports in series.P.S. Also for a period of time after being injured in the Morlock Massacre NC couldn't teleport sequentially, so I don't know when exactly the IF scan is from but if it is from then... it's not really valid.
NC was able to tp sequentially in the comic the scan i posted came from.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Okay, so it was prior to the post-Morlock Massacre period so there should be no issues with multiporting, but also near the beginning of Nightcrawler's history. Subsequent appearances over the last 30 years have shown him teleporting faster...
True, however id assume Nightcrawler isnt the only whos gotten fater over the years. Plus DD would still get an early warning as to when and where Nightcrawler is about to port in.