Originally posted by Alfheim
Frank has been depowered, in his first fight with DD he almost killed him.In his first appearance against Cap, Cap did a sneak attack on Frank, Frank countered it and deflected Caps shield after pinning it to the ground with his feet. Frank could have shot Cap dead but he didnt.
Stupid writers have been making Frank weaker and weaker. People complain about Einnis but in all fairness Frank seems to fight under Einnis the way he did in the old days.
Interesting. I'd like to read those.
This has nothing to do with what you said (I don't think you're making it up) but it's hard to believe that Frank could take on the likes of Daredevil, Cap & Batman and come out on top. I mean, Daredevil is an amazing athlete who has his sonic vision and is a great fighter, same goes for Bats (sans the vision), and Cap is a good fighter who has better than human abilities due to the serum. I doubt that a greatly military trained person can beat any of these. It just doesn't add up for me.
To me, it makes more sense that the person writing those comics liked him a little too much. But hey, if that's how they originally created him, that's how they originally created him.
Originally posted by Jamaican
Interesting. I'd like to read those.This has nothing to do with what you said (I don't think you're making it up) but it's hard to believe that Frank could take on the likes of Daredevil, Cap & Batman and come out on top. I mean, Daredevil is an amazing athlete who has his sonic vision and is a great fighter, same goes for Bats (sans the vision), and Cap is a good fighter who has better than human abilities due to the serum. I doubt that a greatly military trained person can beat any of these. It just doesn't add up for me.
Frank has learnt more than military training and actually knows loads of martial arts. Shang Chi does not have sonic vision but because of his training he could beat DD. To be quite Frank (no pun intended), when Frank first came out thats how good I thought he was. I thought he was a better MA than DD, but was not as fast.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Frank has been depowered, in his first fight with DD he almost killed him.In his first appearance against Cap, Cap did a sneak attack on Frank, Frank countered it and deflected Caps shield after pinning it to the ground with his feet. Frank could have shot Cap dead but he didnt.
Stupid writers have been making Frank weaker and weaker. People complain about Einnis but in all fairness Frank seems to fight under Einnis the way he did in the old days.
It's some kind of comic rule that certain characters - especially villains, and in the beginning Punisher was some kind of villain - are almost always very impressive in their first appearance. I guess it's to draw the reader's attention to "the new guy."
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Hmm I don't know...It's some kind of comic rule that certain characters - especially villains, and in the beginning Punisher was some kind of villain - are almost always very impressive in their first appearance. I guess it's to draw the reader's attention to "the new guy."
I dont think so. The Punisher was lethal for some time. All of a sudden he started to become like a guy with a gun. Elecktra snatching a gun out of Franks hand is taking the ****ing piss. These writers dont know who he is.
Originally posted by starlock
That is not a jungle
So?
Originally posted by starlock
It is not night time
Frank has never fought at night before?
Originally posted by starlock
That is not batman
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Wow, brillaint. The writers on JLA vs Avengers stated that Cap was btter than Batman, do the math.
Oh yeah there no concrete ina jungle either. Oh yeah there on a rooftop. Another thing theres a somebody else there as well. 🙄
Originally posted by Alfheim
So?Frank has never fought at night before?
Wow, brillaint. The writers on JLA vs Avengers stated that Cap was btter than Batman, do the math.
Oh yeah there no concrete ina jungle either. Oh yeah there on a rooftop. Another thing theres a somebody else there as well. 🙄
Batman no prep-still has night vision,batsuit-bulletproof, to a certain degree,loves the dark,actually does his best work in the dark,way to many gadjets to use when your opponet cant see you and you can see them,
Blame the thread starter for this loss,sorry but punisher woulkd be lucky to win 1 out of ten in this scenario,keep those scans maybe they will be a factor in a cap vs punisher thread
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well if you put it that way. Yeah the thread starter really didt think this through.The only thing I can say is that Frank has had lot of expereince fighting at night, but against somebody like Batmn, I dont know.
I actually love the punnisher..he is the everyday man who we can say hey that could be me(no powers,normal tech etc)),i just cant see him winning this without some special equipment or some prep..they have had two crossovers(one was with azrael) so i give props to both,but the scenario just sits well with bats
punisher is just as experienced, but may have just a little less skills with fighting.
i don't think batman can just gain up on him and punch his brains out cuz punisher's trained a lot over the years and knows how to listen to his surroundings.
i give the slight edge to punisher because all he needs is one shot from the ak-47 while batman needs several punches to KO frank.
Originally posted by TheGame17
punisher is just as experienced, but may have just a little less skills with fighting.
i don't think batman can just gain up on him and punch his brains out cuz punisher's trained a lot over the years and knows how to listen to his surroundings.i give the slight edge to punisher because all he needs is one shot from the ak-47 while batman needs several punches to KO frank.
Yeah but Batman has standard equipment. So he doesnt have to just punch him theres lots of things he can do.
Sorry but this thread sux.
Wow, brillaint. The writers on JLA vs Avengers stated that Cap was btter than Batman, do the math.
I understand what you're saying, b/c we're all guilty of doing this, but just because I can beat John 10-0 in a game & Tim 12-10 in a game, doesn't necessarily mean that Tim is going to beat John.
I honestly prefer Bats' odds when fighting Punisher compared to Caps'.
Even though you did say the thing about DDevil.
Originally posted by Jamaican🙄
I understand what you're saying, b/c we're all guilty of doing this, but just because I can beat John 10-0 in a game & Tim 12-10 in a game, doesn't necessarily mean that Tim is going to beat John.I honestly prefer Bats' odds when fighting Punisher compared to Caps'.
Even though you did say the thing about DDevil.
