Originally posted by jinzin
Wolverine, nothing happened but him getting kicked, the story implies he was fine, he makes it back to the jeep two hundred yards from the incident before his student can sprint there.Hulk got beat by a snake when?
Also that's a LOT different thant Wrecker gettin beaten by another super.Thor didn't get beaten by Spiderman, he just couldn't compete with spidey's speed and he' never been much a speedster in battle. 馃槵
Cap did that because Thor couldn't fight back with Bolder threatening his kid, Cap also did that after the Wolverine/Hulk/Thing incident which left Thor without a war. What happened after Loki downed Bolder? Cap got turned to dust.
BAD EXAMPLES. 馃槓
No he wasn't fine, but he recovered quickly thanks to his healing factor.
No idea the issue #, but the scan was posted in the Character Ownage thread. Heck Superman got knocked out from a gas station explosion
Wrecker has beaten the same super power though and gone toe to toe with him freuqently.
Incorrect, Infinite Crusade tie-in Thor was sent with others to bring Spider-Man and he defeats them all and he got knocked out.
Not entirely he didn't use his blasts, but he physically got schooled hand to hand. Once that was free he then killed him and dented or blown a hole in his shield as well.
Wait, you can't have it both ways.
You can't state that Wrecking Crew nearly killed Herc and Thor when Herc was ambushed and not fighting back because of his irrational fear and Thor wasn't fighting back to try and snap Herc out of it.
At the end of that fight Herc and Thor are still standing and Herc is calling the Crew on, hardly "nearly killing them" is it?
Yet, when Herc knocks out Piledriver and Bulldozer, you say it doesn't count cause they weren't fighting him only holding him and they were still standing at the end.
Do you see your double standard?
Fact is Hercules overpowered Bulldozer and Piledriver, they saw him start to struggle but couldn't hold him.
Hercules then catches and crushes Thunderballs wrecking ball and decks Wrecker.
So what your using as evidence that the Crew can take this pre upgrade is Thor and Herc not fighting back and letting the crew whale on them?
I don't mind you debating that the Crew with their new amped status have a chance but come on, standard crew against Herc and Thor?
Wreckers Crow bar has some impressive enchanments but its not Thors hammer, not by a long shot, that alone gives the Herc and Thor duo an advantage.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Haha so on-panel evidence is not what...evidence now? This board is getting foolish. If it's stated and shown Wrecker can match Thor not once but a few times it's foolish?
Hyperbole is not evidence, it's hyperbole....
And seriously, Wrecker doesn't do well when it comes to fighting thor in a legit fight.
Originally posted by King_MungiWhich makes the blast as powerful as Thor's?
and yet Wrecker and co. were absorbing lightening blasts, E-m blasts etc. from Alpha Flight. Also the fact they were in water when they got zapped by Thor.
Originally posted by King_MungiThor gave a hero speech, then struck Thunderball.
Wasn't a cheap shot? they were in a pool relaxing and Thor appears and attacks them.
Plus, I don't see you complaining about how Wrecker tried to hit Thor in the back of the head...
Originally posted by King_MungiNo, I'm not.
Yes you are, as even when Thor was serious in the past he never defeated them that easily.
Thor doesn't lose, or have too much trouble to the Wrecking Crew anymore if you haven't noticed...
Originally posted by King_MungiThey both dropped to the ground, practically KO'ed, and the fact that if Herc had wanted to, he could have picked them up, and broke their necks, makes the fact that they got up two pages later irrelevent.
No he didn't, how did he stop the crew when two members wern't fighting him jusy holding got knocked out brefily as they were right back up in the end.
One got his best attack, and his weapon destroyed, and the most powerful one, got beat down, and then teleported away.
They got stomped... simply put.
Originally posted by King_MungiSometimes Thor's throws, seem to do more damage than his strikes.
I meant hammer strikes via Thor hitting him with it using his strength not a toss
Originally posted by King_MungiYa, and you only mentioned one.
Two, one from the dimension and another from Tanaraq.
Originally posted by His Airness
The fight isn't over. The power up is ambiguous.....Mjolnir, Thor's skill, Thor's experience, etc, etc. Thor is overall more powerful Than Bill.
Who said he was doing it all at once? Also because he hasn't doesn't mean he can't considerings he's shown capable to doing everything I've mentioned.
We'll see.
Except not stated as such and shown.
If he uses his god-blast yeah he definetly takes it, but typically Thor is a melee fighter.
Originally posted by Newjak
You know I have to do it KM but you do know pre-recent upgrade. The last showing of the crew has Wrecker getting taken out by a double decker bus falling on himSorry had to do it you know I love you 313
In the same apperance Piledriver got ko'ed by Sage via groin shot 馃槙
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Infinity Crusade tie-in, I actually posted the scans in a PIS related title in the comic book sectionYet he was physically schooling him hand to hand. Regardless he still had an advantage over him and that was clearly shown.
Actually it does, as the Great Beasts are Elder Gods and Oeming has hinted on the level of Surtur now.
I'd like to see it, not that it matters considering the numerous times it's been stated Thor holds back the majority of the times he's on earth. Also, Thor's plagued with PIS outside his own title, you know this I know this.
They didn't even fight h2h. Cap threw his shield at the distracted, handicapped Thor. He stood over him claiming he was gonna kill him. Balder was killed, Cap was converted to dust. No h2h involved.
And this deals with the Wrecking Crew getting Thrashed in what way?
Originally posted by King_Mungiyou assume, the story reflects otherwise.
No he wasn't fine, but he recovered quickly thanks to his healing factor.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No idea the issue #, but the scan was posted in the Character Ownage thread. Heck Superman got knocked out from a gas station explosion
Again, different than the examples of Wrecker getting beat by supers...
He's had MULTIPLE showings of such... How many times has supes been KOed by gas station? ONCE. 馃槓
Originally posted by King_Mungiwith overwhelming numbers, sneak attacks, or when Thor's weakened.
Wrecker has beaten the same super power though and gone toe to toe with him freuqently.
Originally posted by King_Mungiwhat when? show me.
Incorrect, Infinite Crusade tie-in Thor was sent with others to bring Spider-Man and he defeats them all and he got knocked out.
Originally posted by King_MungiHe got beaten up in a situation where he LOST AN ARM and fought hulk, and thing for hours at once... and he HAD to hold back for his sons safety... WTF?
Not entirely he didn't use his blasts, but he physically got schooled hand to hand. Once that was free he then killed him and dented or blown a hole in his shield as well.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
We'll see.Except not stated as such and shown.
If he uses his god-blast yeah he definetly takes it, but typically Thor is a melee fighter.
In the same apperance Piledriver got ko'ed by Sage via groin shot 馃槙
We will, thus is the reason I refused to debate against the power up.
I'm not exactly sure what your trying to say.
If he uses any of his more exotic, powerful attacks he wins.
Well there's no way I can basically reply to everyone, as I make one reply there's 4 more afterwards.
I'm going to say I'm wrong, and apologize as I don't think this would have end anytime soon so I'm throwing in the towel and saying I'm wrong.
Sorry I took up people's time, and sorry for those who I didn't reply back too
Originally posted by King_MungiHa!
Well there's no way I can basically reply to everyone, as I make one reply there's 4 more afterwards.I'm going to say I'm wrong, and apologize as I don't think this would have end anytime soon so I'm throwing in the towel and saying I'm wrong.
Sorry I took up people's time, and sorry for those who I didn't reply back too
Wait...
Originally posted by His Airness
They didn't even fight h2h. Cap threw his shield at the distracted, handicapped Thor. He stood over him claiming he was gonna kill him. Balder was killed, Cap was converted to dust. No h2h involved.And this deals with the Wrecking Crew getting Thrashed in what way?
because he thinks that cap beating up THor in that scenario is PIS equivolent to his idea that Thing, Thor, and Toxin one shoting Wrecker is PIS... Even though Thor was messed up, cheap shotted, and not fighting back at all... 馃槵
