Thanos with heart of universe vs darkseid with ALE

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl28 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
Eternity and the LT are peers.

That Eternity that speaks with Thanos IS "Multi-Eternity"

because the Totality of Eternity (the Multiverse)

and Eternity's Aspects (Universes)

share the SAME Consciousness.

Eternity is a peer with the Lt in no way. not even the multieternity is. And of course eternity shares consiousness with the multi eternity. he is part of the whole. When did Marvel say Eternity in totality was now the multieternity when he has always been the aspect of the universe.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You missed the point. If there are twin realities, then they have the same set of events. A divergent reality would have all said same events until the moment of divergence. To which we dont' know the moment of divergence. Either theory is plausible as to why Warlock had those memories. that is all.

What "twin reality?"

Already PROVED it was the 616 Universe with the Atleza scans,

or are you going to continue to willfully ignore the On Panel Art and character statements coupled with Atleza's Bio that clearly states she is the Cosmic Anchor of the 616 Reality?

If so,

this debate is pointless.

And where is it stated this Reality "diverged?"

Don't make shit up, I hate that.

Originally posted by Mr Master
What "twin reality?"

Already PROVED it was the 616 Universe with the Atleza scans,

or are you going to continue to willfully ignore the On Panel Art and character statements coupled with Atleza's Bio that clearly states she is the Cosmic Anchor of the 616 Reality?

If so,

this debate is pointless.

And where is it stated this Reality "diverged?"

Don't make shit up, I hate that.

I'm saying that it is a twin reality. It is what the 616 is except it met it's end. period. Atleza's bio is good and all. But it's also the bio of the anchor of the 616. Get what I'm saying. You think the writers take into account all those bios whent hey write a story? hell no.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Eternity is a peer with the Lt in no way. not even the multieternity is.

As you wish.

Eternity and "Multi-Eternity are the same Entity btw.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And of course eternity shares consiousness with the multi eternity. he is part of the whole.

Correct.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When did Marvel say Eternity in totality was now the multieternity when he has always been the aspect of the universe.

Multi-Eternity has been around since 84, conclusively On Panel,

he just wasn't known as such:

This was the Universe Korvac nullified, the last remnants of it's Consciousness appeared before Strange, Phoenix and SS, because they were going to re-create the Universe with the same UN that erased it:


"I am the Spirit of the Universe that once existed here ... hear my plea"

Eternity let's it be known he's died, and prefers to keep this way.

Eternity explains that THIS Universe is just ONE of his Aspects,

of a "nigh-Infinite" amount of Eternitys. (or Multi-Eternity)

There it is,

this One Single Universe is claiming to be the Totality of Eternity (nigh-Infinite amount of Aspects/UniverseS) and an Aspect of Eternity (Single Reality) aswell.

The Totality and the Aspect are one in the same, Consciously speaking.

"Multi-Eternity" is just an updated name to the "Totality of Eternity" (around since 84)

Originally posted by Mr Master
As you wish.

Eternity and "Multi-Eternity are the same Entity btw.

Correct.

Multi-Eternity has been around since 84, conclusively On Panel,

he just wasn't known as such:

This was the Universe Korvac nullified, the last remnants of it's Consciousness appeared before Strange, Phoenix and SS, because they were going to re-create the Universe with the same UN that erased it:


"I am the Spirit of the Universe that once existed here ... hear my plea"

Eternity let's it be known he's died, and prefers to keep this way.

Eternity explains that THIS Universe is just ONE of his Aspects,

of a "nigh-Infinite" amount of Eternitys. (or Multi-Eternity)

There it is,

this One Single Universe is claiming to be the Totality of Eternity (nigh-Infinite amount of Aspects/UniverseS) and an Aspect of Eternity (Single Reality) aswell.

The Totality and the Aspect are one in the same, Consciously speaking.

"Multi-Eternity" is just an updated name to the "Totality of Eternity" (around since 84)

Like jesus and the holy ghost are all God. Seperate and yet somehow all the same. I can accept that. But eternity still is just one universe.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm saying that it is a twin reality. It is what the 616 is except it met it's end. period.

Again,

what "twin reality" are you talking about?

It met it's end, and then it met it's rebirth.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Atleza's bio is good and all. But it's also the bio of the anchor of the 616. Get what I'm saying.

dontgetit

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You think the writers take into account all those bios whent hey write a story? hell no.

Exaggerated speculation on your part.

So Spiderman can fly sometimes because of careless Writers?

Is Xavier a speedster instead of a telepath because of carelss Writers?

Is Galactus the personification of Love because of careless Writers?

Atleza is the 616 Cosmic Anchor, it's the relevance of her existence, an entire Arc was dedicated to her introduction during the Infinity Abyss affair, now you're telling me, that was overlooked by Jim Starlin who WROTE the END and the Infinity Abyss?

ermmno

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again,

what "twin reality" are you talking about?

It met it's end, and then it met it's rebirth.

dontgetit

Exaggerated speculation on your part.

So Spiderman can fly sometimes because of careless Writers?

Is Xavier a speedster instead of a telepath because of carelss Writers?

Is Galactus the personification of Love because of careless Writers?

Atleza is the 616 Cosmic Anchor, it's the relevance of her existence, an entire Arc was dedicated to her introduction during the Infinity Abyss affair, now you're telling me, that was overlooked by Jim Starlin who WROTE the END and the Infnity Abyss?

ermmno

Which came first? the Abyss or the end story?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Like jesus and the holy ghost are all God.

Seperate and yet somehow all the same. I can accept that.

But eternity still is just one universe.

As you wish.

According to the On Panel evidence,

the Totality of Eternity is the Prime Multiverse.

Eternity's Aspects, are Universes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
As you wish.

According to the On Panel evidence,

the Totality of Eternity is the Prime Multiverse.

Eternity's Aspects, are Universes.

Kinda confusing. When did The MultiEternity term start beign used. In either case, the multi is the whole and eternity is the aspect.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Which came first? the Abyss or the end story?

The Abyss.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Abyss.

So the abyss came first and he made this anchor character. Then the end happens and he puts in a creation of his. The end is supposed to be an exact replica of the 616 correct? So then it would have to have this anchor in it as well or it's not exact. marvel ****ed up with this one.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kinda confusing. When did The MultiEternity term start beign used.

In 2001, during the Abraxas arc.

The Dr Strange encounter took place in 84'

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
In either case, the multi is the whole and eternity is the aspect.

Well, Eternity or "Multi" if you prefer, is the Multiverse,

Eternity's Aspects are Universes.

But my point was that when an Aspect speaks, it's as though the Multiverse is speaking,

because they don't only share, they ARE the SAME Consciousness.

In other words,

Eternity (or Multi) can operate independently from his Aspects, and all the Aspects can act independently from each other, and they are ALL still the SAME Entity.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So the abyss came first and he made this anchor character. Then the end happens and he puts in a creation of his. The end is supposed to be an exact replica of the 616 correct? So then it would have to have this anchor in it as well or it's not exact.

Why do you continue to say it's a 616 replica?

Have I not told you like 20 times,

that Jim changed the story to KEEP it Canon?

That he CHANGE the Story?

The Original story, "the 616 copy" ... was THROWN OUT the Window.

Forget about that forever please.

That's why Thanos Re-Created the Multiverse, instead of leaving it dead,

so the Story would BE Canon.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Why do you continue to say it's a 616 replica?

Have I not told you like 20 times,

that Jim changed the story to KEEP it Canon?

That he CHANGE the Story?

The Original story, "the 616 copy" ... was THROWN OUT the Window.

Forget about that forever please.

That's why Thanos Re-Created the Multiverse, instead of leaving it dead,

so the Story would BE Canon.

doesn't matter what jim did. he isn't the one above all. the editor's are. they kept the original meaning of the story. They dont' like to be ****ed with at marvel. he tried to get away with it and it has been denounced as still a copy.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
doesn't matter what jim did. he isn't the one above all. the editor's are. they kept the original meaning of the story.

As you wish.

This is based on ... oh right, nothing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
They dont' like to be ****ed with at marvel. he tried to get away with it and it has been denounced as still a copy.

Show me where at Marvel.com is this stated.

Oh, I know you can't find it anywhere,

well then .... pfft

Originally posted by Mr Master
So Spiderman can fly sometimes because of careless Writers?

Is Xavier a speedster instead of a telepath because of carelss Writers?

Is Galactus the personification of Love because of careless Writers?


So Master Order is equal to Eternity because of Careless writers?

Wait... That one actualy happened.

Originally posted by Mr Master
As you wish.

This is based on ... oh right, nothing.

Show me where at Marvel.com is this stated.

Oh, I know you can't find it anywhere,

well then .... pfft

LMAO. Leo already posted enough to discredit the end. Aren't there even bios mentioning some event in the past similiar to the events of the end but not specifically the end? I stand by my opinion that it was an exact copy of the 616.

Originally posted by King Kandy
So Master Order is equal to Eternity because of Careless writers?

Wait... That one actualy happened.

dontgetit

Originally posted by Mr Master
dontgetit

IB vs. Galactus arc... It was implied.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO. Leo already posted enough to discredit the end.

😬

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Aren't there even bios mentioning some event in the past similiar to the events of the end but not specifically the end?

😕

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I stand by my opinion that it was an exact copy of the 616.

As you wish.