What Will Go Through Your Mind When You See Jesus?

Originally posted by Devil King
No, because I already understand the concept. (It's a bad example anyway) But it doesn't explain why Jesus had a multiple personality disorder moment.

The misconception is in your mind Devil King not with Jesus. Here is what the problem is: you believe that Jesus and the Father are one Person (which I have labored to explain to you is false). If Jesus and the Father were one Person then your supposition that Jesus prayed to Himself would be true. But as I have already explained, Jesus is not the Father; therefore, His prayer could not be to Himself. Question: are you and your father the same person? No? Well, neither is Jesus and His Father the same Person. Both Jesus and His Father occupy the same position or office called God (just as in my Board of Directors example). The Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit occupy the same office (just like each member in the Board occupies the same office called Board of Directors).

Do you follow me?

Originally posted by Devil King
No, because I already understand the concept. (It's a bad example anyway) But it doesn't explain why Jesus had a multiple personality disorder moment.

One Board -- One God
more than one person in Board --more than one Person in God

If you cannot understand this analogy Devil King then you never will. This is as rudimentary as it gets.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
One Board -- One God
more than one person in Board --more than one Person in God

If you cannot understand this analogy Devil King then you never will. This is as rudimentary as it gets.

This way of looking at god does not agree with the ten commandments.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This way of looking at god does not agree with the ten commandments.

How? God is still one God. God has always been (and will always be) one God in three Persons.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This way of looking at god does not agree with the ten commandments.

Just as a corporation has one Board of Directors composed of more than one person, there is one God composed of more than one Person. No matter how you look at it Shakyamunison, there is only one Board in a corporation that is composed of more than one member. Equally true (and no matter how you look at it Shakyamunison) there is only one God in the universe that is composed of more than one member.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Just as a corporation has one Board of Directors in more than one person, God is one in more than one Person. No matter how you look at it Shakyamunison, there is only [B]one Board of Directors in a corporation. Equally true (and no matter how you look at it Shakyamunison) there is only one God in the universe. [/B]

I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; you shall have no other gods before me.

I means one, and me means one. It does not say you shall have not other gods before us.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The misconception is in your mind Devil King not with Jesus.

I'm sure if there was anyone here who could spot a broken mind, it's you.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Here is what the problem is: you believe that Jesus and the Father are one Person (which I have labored to explain to you is false).

How can I believe that Jesus and god are the same person? I don't think Jesus was divine. I understand the concept of the trinity. But your board room explaination of the trinity doesn't explain why Jesus needs to ask god to forgive them, when everything else you say places the role of judge on the shoulders of Jesus. This is why you are asking the question of what we'll do when you and baby Jesus prove us wrong and we're all standing in front of him on judgment day. So it sounds a lot like human beings have decided that Jesus wasn't talking to himself, but was talking to his father, who is also himself in a way, but not exactly, the authority thing really kinda flows like a corporate structure flow chart with the holy ghost being on kind of the outside of the structure like the human resources department at you local big buisness, mega church, propoganda corporation. But, you can tell god from Jesus and Jesus and god from the holy ghost because god has a funny hat, right?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
If Jesus and the Father were one Person then your supposition that Jesus prayed to Himself would be true.

They are supposedly the same person, but different.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But as I have already explained, Jesus is not the Father; therefore, His prayer could not be to Himself.

So Jesus isn't divine.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Question: are you and your father the same person? No? Well, neither is Jesus and His Father the same Person.

My father never claimed to be god, and neither have I. My father and I don't have 2000 years of human meddling to contend with in our relationship to each other.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Both Jesus and His Father occupy the same position or office called God (just as in my Board of Directors example). The Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit occupy the same office (just like each member in the Board occupies the same office called Board of Directors).

Do you follow me?

But, there are different positions on a board of directors.

I have to say this is a new one for me, I have never heard God as a board of directors. So I guess we are the share holders if so I need to buy more stock. 😉

[QUOTE=]Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[COLOR=darkblue] How do you think that you will feel when Jesus shows you His nail pierced feet and hands with the scars (or holes) from crucifixion[/QUOTE] I'd probably wonder why he wasn't able to use his superpowers in more than two thousand years to heal that.

Wolverine could do it in 5 minutes.

Is Wolverine superior to Jesus?

Originally posted by ThePittman
I have to say this is a new one for me, I have never heard God as a board of directors. So I guess we are the share holders if so I need to buy more stock. 😉

So whats the Wall Street Crash ? Armageddon ???

Originally posted by grey fox
So whats the Wall Street Crash ? Armageddon ???

Originally posted by Bardock42
[QUOTE=]Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B][COLOR=darkblue] How do you think that you will feel when Jesus shows you His nail pierced feet and hands with the scars (or holes) from crucifixion

Wolverine could do it in 5 minutes.

Is Wolverine superior to Jesus? [/B][/QUOTE]

He certainly has more disciples.....

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I means one, and me means one. It does not say you shall have not other gods before us.

In this instance God is used to refer to one Person in the triune God. But in Genesis 1:1 the word God there is the Hebrew word Elohim (which is a plural word denoting that there is more than one Person in all that is called God). Not to mention that fact that this verse puts all other Scriptures about God in their proper context. This verse preceded the verse that you furnished so it modifies that verse. Right from the very beginning God reveals His one God nature or essence manifested in more than one Person (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). Let this Scripture clarify the one God in three Persons Truth:

Matthew 28:18-19
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

Did you catch that Shakyamunison? One God in three Persons.

Matthew 3:15-17
15 But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

There is the Father's voice coming from Heaven, there is Jesus physically on the earth, and the Holy Spirit descending from Heaven to alight on Jesus.

One God in three Persons.

One God, three Persons.

1 John 5:7
For there are Three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these Three are one.

These three Board members are one Board. These Three (Persons) are one (God).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
In this instance God is used to refer to one Person in the triune God. But in Genesis 1:1 the word God there is the Hebrew word Elohim (which is a plural word denoting that there is more than one Person in all that is called God). Not to mention that fact that this verse puts all other Scriptures about God in their proper context. This verse preceded the verse that you furnished so it modifies that verse. Right from the very beginning God reveals His one God nature or essence manifested in more than one Person (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). Let this Scripture clarify the one God in three Persons Truth:

[B]Matthew 28:18-19
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

Did you catch that Shakyamunison? One God in three Persons.

Matthew 3:15-17
15 But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

There is the Father's voice coming from Heaven, there is Jesus physically on the earth, and the Holy Spirit descending from Heaven to alight on Jesus.

One God in three Persons.

One God, three Persons.

1 John 5:7
For there are Three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these Three are one.

These three Board members are one Board. These Three (Persons) are one (God). [/B]

That is a very complicated answer. It sounds more like rationalization to me. I think a simpler answer would be that the bible was put together from different writings about different beliefs in god. On part talks about multiple gods, like the Egyptian or Greek gods and other is talking about the "one god" concept.

Originally posted by Devil King
I'm sure if there was anyone here who could spot a broken mind, it's you.

How can I believe that Jesus and god are the same person? I don't think Jesus was divine. I understand the concept of the trinity. But your board room explaination of the trinity doesn't explain why Jesus needs to ask god to forgive them, when everything else you say places the role of judge on the shoulders of Jesus. This is why you are asking the question of what we'll do when you and baby Jesus prove us wrong and we're all standing in front of him on judgment day. So it sounds a lot like human beings have decided that Jesus wasn't talking to himself, but was talking to his father, who is also himself in a way, but not exactly, the authority thing really kinda flows like a corporate structure flow chart with the holy ghost being on kind of the outside of the structure like the human resources department at you local big buisness, mega church, propoganda corporation. But, you can tell god from Jesus and Jesus and god from the holy ghost because god has a funny hat, right?

They are supposedly the same person, but different.

So Jesus isn't divine.

My father never claimed to be god, and neither have I. My father and I don't have 2000 years of human meddling to contend with in our relationship to each other.

But, there are different positions on a board of directors.

Jesus is divine (why do you think that He is called the Son of God?) That is like saying that since you are not your father that you do not share his lineage, last name, and DNA.

Once again stop getting fixated on my analogies and simply understand them for they are: illustrations. I am starting to believe that you have the least amount of understanding on this forum with regard to spiritual things so I will perhaps have to spend a lot of individual time explaining these realities with you.

I find it very alarming that you still lack basic understanding of spiritual things considering that you claim to have been exposed to Catholicism since your youth (no doubt a testament to the fact that there is no true teaching of Scriptrue taking place in the Catholic Church).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus is divine (why do you think that He is called the Son of God?) That is like saying that since you are not your father that you do not share his lineage, last name, and DNA. ...

The reason for people calling Jesus the son of god has nothing to do with rather Jesus was divine. If that was true, then the Emperors of Rome would also have been divine, because they where also referred to the son of god or gods.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is a very complicated answer. It sounds more like rationalization to me. I think a simpler answer would be that the bible was put together from different writings about different beliefs in god. On part talks about multiple gods, like the Egyptian or Greek gods and other is talking about the "one god" concept.

That misconception exists in your mind. The Bible has never talked about multiple Gods in reference to the God of the Bible. From the Book of Genesis to the Book of Revelation the concept of one God in three Persons (not Gods) is abundantly clear. You are blaming your inability to understand the one God in three Persons Truth on the fallacy that there are multiple Gods. There is more than one Person but there is only one God. One Board, one God. More than one person in the Board, more than one Person in God (but except for the Chairman of the Board all of the Board members are equal.) Just for sake of order you could think of the Father as the Chairman of the Board.

Edit: I really don't give a shit.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The reason for people calling Jesus the son of god has nothing to do with rather Jesus was divine. If that was true, then the Emperors of Rome would also have been divine, because they where also referred to the son of god or gods.

Mark 14:60-64
And the high priest stood up in the midst and asked Jesus, saying, “Do You answer nothing? What is it these men testify against You?” But He kept silent and answered nothing.

Notice that the Lord Jesus did not answer any of the petty questions.

Again the high priest asked Him, saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed [i.e. the Son of God]?”
Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

Jesus just admitted and affirmed that He was the Christ the SON OF THE BLESSED meaning that He is the Son of God. The high priest, the chief priests, the elders, and the scribes were present when those words came out of Jesus mouth. They KNEW exactly what Jesus was saying. Well, just what was Jesus saying? First let's look at the high priest's reaction to what Jesus said.

Mark 14:63-64
Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “What further need do we have of witnesses? You have heard the blasphemy! What do you think?”
And they all condemned Him to be deserving of death.

The high priest called Jesus affirmation of being the Christ (Anointed One), the Son of the Blessed (God) blasphemy. Now why would they accuse Jesus of such a serious charge? By Jesus Christ affirming that He is the Christ (i.e. Anointed One), the Son of the Blessed (i.e. the Son of God), He is saying that He and the Father are equal, one God (in the same fraternity if you would). The high priest knew this that is why he (the high priest) tore his own clothes then said that what Jesus had said was blasphemy.

Here is Matthew's account of what took place as Jesus stood before the high priest.

Matthew 26:57-66
57 And those who had laid hold of Jesus led Him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled. 58 But Peter followed Him at a distance to the high priest’s courtyard. And he went in and sat with the servants to see the end.
59 Now the chief priests, the elders, and all the council sought false testimony against Jesus to put Him to death, 60 but found none. Even though many false witnesses came forward, they found none. But at last two false witnesses came forward 61 and said, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and to build it in three days.’”
62 And the high priest arose and said to Him, “Do You answer nothing? What is it these men testify against You?” 63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!” 64 Jesus said to him, “It is as you said . Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”
65 Then the high priest tore his clothes, saying, “He has spoken blasphemy! What further need do we have of witnesses? Look, now you have heard His blasphemy! 66 What do you think?”

What is your point?