Jaime Braddock vs White Phoenix

He also was a minion to her counterpart (not equal) and could only warp reality locally until he was a member of the forsaken per Nightcrawler and his sister during that arc.

Originally posted by LordKaos
She did not nurse a "baby" universe back to health, and what is a baby universe anyway, the term used was orphan (newsflash you can be an adult and still be an orphan), she amputated it from the rest of existence which in turn made it an orphan she then went back before it's creation and made sure it never happened/will happen without creating a paradox.

Still, the feat was none too impressive. Universal scale only.

The guy you place so far above her has trouble warping Shadowcat

And? She can phase her body. It states clearly in his bio it's harder for him to warp phased beings.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Still, the feat was none too impressive. Universal scale only.

And? She can phase her body. It states clearly in his bio it's harder for him to warp phased beings.

His greatest feat never left a television set.

Being phased does not alleviate you of matter especially Kitty who can be effected by Magneto using electromagnetism.

A feat better than that is teleporting people into the WHR and then warping it.

There was a Phoenix effect via Rachel linking her tk with Psylockes (Jeans TK) that caused them to be teleported into the white hot room, he took them out which is not impressive considering it's the heart of reality and a nexus to everywhere. And notice he did not appear until Betsy started to talk about him, and once he took her out she was Wandas pawn like everybody else even though she was under his protection. In that particular story Rachel (daugter of the Phoenix) was the one who saw through the warp without Layla Miller.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
May KK forgive me. But based on feats, Braddock wins!!!

Braddock has done nothing thats even remotely as impressive as Phoenix.

Name some of these allegedlt impressive feats and i'm betting you've either misinterpreted a scene or just accepted forum talk as canon. 😬

Based on your debates with Mr. M I have no doubt you'd think I've misinterpreted them.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Based on your debates with Mr. M I have no doubt you'd think I've misinterpreted them.

So why dont you present your case then?

My debates with Mr Master always resulted in a deadend because after i highlighted a flaw in his interpretation, it could never be answered so instead he re-posted his entire argument again. 😬

If you're so sure of yourself......try me.

you just got served 😆 💃

The White Phoenix wins.

Forget all the crap you may have heard about Jamie creating a universe and so on. Its just not true. Agenda spawned bullsh*t

Jamie is just not on that level. Beg to differ? Show me where the point is clearly illustrated on panel and within a bio.

Having trouble? 😕

Its over. 😬

Jamie Braddock wins.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Jamie Braddock wins.

Based on what?

He was inferior to the First Fallens pawns and the First Fallen is the opposite of the Phoenix.

He has no feats to back up your opinion unless you want to show us otherwise? 😕

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Based on what?

He was inferior to the First Fallens pawns and the First Fallen is the opposite of the Phoenix.

He has no feats to back up your opinion unless you want to show us otherwise? 😕

Stan Lee couldn't convince you anyone is superior to the Phoenix Force.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Stan Lee couldn't convince you anyone is superior to the Phoenix Force.

The hating never stops. 😉

I just go by on panel feat, statement and a bit of common sense.

Either make your argument or quit wasting my time with your bullshit

JB pwns

Originally posted by skyfather
JB pwns

Jamie Braddock has never done anything on a scale large enough to give that viewpoint justification.

Jamie Braddock was dmeonstrated to be inferior to the First Fallens minions. Jamie Braddock has never performed a reality warp on a planetary scale let alone a universal scale.

I'm honestly curious about what feats you believe make him so special?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

I'm honestly curious about what feats you believe make him so special?

same can be said for the phoenix

Originally posted by skyfather
same can be said for the phoenix

Check out the respect thread and your questions will be answered.

With regards to Jamie Braddock, alot of his feats have been misinterpreted or overhyped by certain posters.

Post some scans from one and we can discuss it.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Check out the respect thread and your questions will be answered.

With regards to Jamie Braddock, alot of his feats have been misinterpreted or overhyped by certain posters.

Post some scans from one and we can discuss it.

ive read the respect thread its just hyperboil by fanboys.

jb still stomps

Originally posted by skyfather
ive read the respect thread its just hyperboil by fanboys.

jb still stomps

Phoenix's top feats aren't hyperbole at all.

Braddock has never done anything on a universal scale. Whilst Phoenix has many feats on that level. The point is verified in Jean Greys latest bio entry which confirms that she is capable of manipulating an entire universes atomic structure telekinetically. This is in reference to her materialising reality in the palm of her hand in New X-men 154.

Thats leagues ahead of Braddock, who isnt even on the level of a Franklin Richards or a Shaper of Worlds.