Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Meemoo is my ex girlfriends nick name aka the most evil superhero name in the world.
Oh, I just found out Dragon Man's mind isn't a computer or a robot, he was given intelligence from magics of Diablo.
Seriously, Ill...
Originally posted by illadelph12
1) Dragonman's body - Dragonman as the body is a solid pick save for one aspect; he has a dog-like/under developed brain. You're putting Masterson's consciousness into this under developed brain along with Zero's tech powers. I'm not so sure 10 minutes of prep would give you optimum efficiency Long Pig. Particularly trying to impose super speed data processing on so primitive a brain (if that's actually possible).
This is where I think I didn't make it clear. DM has no brain, his mind is magic. Masterson's mind would basically just inhabit the android's body.
[QUOTE]2) Tech Negation: Zero has the power to shutdown & neutralize weapons/threats. He doesn't just shut down everything in his vicinity. Karate Kid's flight ring is a mode of transportation and a non hostile instrument. I doubt you'd be able to simply turn it off. It would be like Zero automatically turning off every vehicle and communicator in his vicinity because it could theoretically be weaponized. He doesn't work like that, and furthermore, you presented no evidence that he works like that.
4) Telepathy - The magical versus natural telepathy argument was never really fleshed out. I'm not sure whether or not there is a difference, but neither side truly presented a solid case.It was never flushed out because it was a silly argument and he gave up on it because he knew he was wrong. Loki is a telepath, he uses no spells to use it. There is no such THING as magical telepathy where Marvel is concerned.
6) Follow Your Nose - "The Toucan Sam Attack of 2007" is hilarious. However, since Dragonman would no longer have dog like tendencies, hitting him in the nose wouldn't make him curl up in a ball like a dog would. However, getting punched in the nose still hurts like f*ck and that scan does show that Dragonman's body is vulnerable. Dragonman enhanced by Thunderstrike, I'm not so sure. Which leads to my next point.
7) Thunderstike's enhancements [Evidence continued] - Besides the comical mathematics LP presented, the abilities of Thunderstrike were never fleshed out. I know for a fact that he's no where near as powerful as Thor, but what he's actually capable of was not shown, so while I could take Long Pig's word for it... ( :laugh ), I can't really consider it as fact.
Basically we have a telepathic/telekinetic Superboy clone with arguably the best h2h and battle tactician skills in comicdom versus a monster with a magical mace, high end durability and strength, energy blasts, and ability to turn off weapons (though KK is unarmed).
Nah, we have a telepathic (which is useless in this fight) Superboy clone (without flight, blasts or 99% of Superboy's powers.) who can fight really good h2h(which he won't be able to use) and no long range attacks versus a monster with probably the highest strength and durability under skyfather with super speed, an instantaneous healing factor, a force field and an insanely powerful and versatile magic hammer with powerful blasts that damaged the Destroyer Armor when Thor's hammer was unable to and powerful blasts from Zero who's ability to turn off weapons allows him the advantage of being the only one able to fly.
Seriously, dude. You really should reconsider.[/QUOTE]
Sorry if my post isn't really fleshed out, I am in a bit of a hurry. Finally got a moment to go to internet.
But...
A) Okay. This match was really...strange? It was good, but a bit hard to follow. The main thing I noticed was that...Joey had scans. Long Pig had none. Yes, I know that it was because of technical problems, but still, there really was no proof from LP's side. As an judge, I don't think I should look for evidence, and thus, LP didn't really prove much of the stuff he says, and I can't take his word as a fact, so it leads me into...
B) Thunderstrike's enchantments? As we didn't see any sort of scans of this, it was kinda hard to judge how potent they were. Was there really any HUGE power boost? Which showing was used to judge this? Did the axe have something to do with it, and how would it affect this situation? Sorry, but with no scans and the different situation in this comic, it is hard to believe this.
C) This led into the other prep and power stuff. While I knew that some stuff was true from my own experiences, some I didn't know. So it was again difficult to take everything into account.
D) In my opinion, Stacks not only had scans, but his plan was a bit better fleshed out. He certainly proved everything he had, and his character is really powerful. Class 100 Karate Kid? Ouch. I believe that his strikes (what was that, 8 million tons of striking force?) would be quite easily enough to harm Long Pigs character, as Karate Kid can harm characters of similar durability without any upgrades.
I'm going to have to give my vote to Joey Stacks. Nice fight, but the lack of scans from LP's side just gives him the edge.
Judge's Vote
Good match Long Pig and Joey Stacks. This was interesting to say the least.
- The prep posts and the first rebuttal posts from Joey Stacks and Long Pig were the best posts of the match. The rest of the posts seemed to consist of "nah ahs", "yuh huhs" and trash talking. After I read through everything a few times I have a good grasp on the posts.
-Both amalgams were clever and powerful. Long Pig has a very durable and powerful character but I wasn't buying powerup to the level he explained. It just didn't seem plausible enough and there were no scans to back it up. Joey has the mind of Karate Kid with a durable and strong body which is tough to beat. KK has damaged heralds without 100 cl. strength or high durability.
-The actual fight is where things got messy. I wasn't buying much of the mind reading or telepathy. I just wasn't convinced. I wasn't convinced that Long Pig would have any advantage in the fight. I felt Joey proved his character's speed and ability better. A Karate Kid with 100 cl strength with speed and durability to match is a tough opponent to counter. In the end I feel Joey Stacks presented the best evidence to support his character.
My vote: Joey Stacks