Spurs V Jordan Bulls!

Originally posted by leonidas
see, what happens here is that as time goes by, we tend to overrate teams, imo. the spurs were at least as good as the bad boy pistons, and they flat out beat up the bulls for 3 years. they were WELL into their decline though, and so coudln't sustain their dominance.

the bulls beat no one in the spurs league in any of their championships. the knicks were arguably their best competition. and the spurs are much better than they were AND the knicks were able to give the bulls a solid run for their money.

with the hardcore defense they can play, i still think the spurs could definitely win a series between them.

You guys should listen to this man. I'm a faithfull Knick fan and this current Spurs team is better then the 90s Knicks.

Bruce Wouldn't be able to guard Jordan anymore than he could gurad Kobe but, lets face it compared to everyone else in the league Bruce guards Kobe really damn well. he would be all over Jordan grabbing kicking tripping whatever it takes Mike will have flashbacks of Detroit he would score 40 but he wouldn't like it.

Duncan would completely and utterly dominate Rodman. Rodman played guys who were just big and tall and would try to muscle you Duncan can do all that but most importantly how is Rodman going to stop Timmy's turn around bank shots and hooks shots. Ducnan isn't going to jsut try to bang on him. Rodman is way too small to guard someone with Duncan's arsenal of moves.

Pippin is where the nightmare begins for SA though. They have no answer for Pippen with Bowen guarding mike, unless they try to put Ginoboli on Mike either way those two are going to rip them to shreds.

ITs a tough call really. There is no way they are stopping duncan though if Chicago rotates Scottie down to guard Ginoboli that still leaves you oppurtunistic Mike Finley to roam the court and Horry will be there if the game is close.

Though the thing that makes this Sanantonio team so deadly is that they never, never, NEVER beat themselves. They don't get emotional and they make no mistakes, they punish you for every mistake on either end of the court.

Then again this is Jordan.

Pretty close call actually. I still take the Bulls and here's why. They had three first defensive team players in Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman. As good as Duncan is, Rodman has seen it all. From Ewing to a prime Malone. So let's not make it out as if Duncan will have a field day on Rodman. Bowen can guard Jordan, but who'll guard Pippen? On the defensive end Pippen and Jordan are elite perimeter defenders. Ginobli and Parker arent goin to the rim as easily as you think. Their role players are highly efficient as well. Players like Kerr, Harper, and Kukoc were all very effective within the triangle offense. Think of it this way. The Spurs had a hard time with the triangle offense that was Kobe and Shaq. How are they goin to beat the best Phil-coached team ever? The 96 year when they had the best record of all time.

It no doubt is an interesting discussion. Even if you draw it up as a wash, when all else fails, the Bulls have the greatest ever, and that is a problem....him pulling off the impossible, the inexplicable. The Spurs have not seen anyone like him inflict damage like he is capable of in their championship runs. Kobe & Shaq only perhaps?

I wonder how that would effect them? Eventually, I see the Spurs succombing to this thought like every other Bulls' opponent: "We just have no answer for him. They can get their sure bucket whenever they need one, and there ain't nothing we can do about it".

I think Duncan would compeletly own Rodman. Rodman doesn't do well against finesse players like Karl Malone and Duncan is big and taller than Malone. Rodman is like Ben Wallace short but so heavily muscled that lanky guys no matter how tall can simply muscle him. Both of these guys have trouble with semi-agile finesse big men. Guys that use their length to make bank shots and hooks. What you are more likely to see is Rodman not trying too hard to defend him but making sure that any misses are instantly rebounded because Duncan is too good down there. Also I don't really thik Rodman could get into Duncan's head as easily as it would seem. Tim Duncan is simply unintersted in anything Rodman tries he is simply too boring to care. Tim Duncan is probably the Greats PF to play in his time (the rings are what puts him past Malone) and the most consistent.

We also know that SA is not afraid to get physical, these Spurs are every bit as tough defensively as that Knicks team and would scrap out there on defense. Also Popovich is a smart coach he might decide that maybe Bowen is wasted on Jordan and move him to Pippen. Michal would get his points either way but I think Bowen would be much more effective on Pippen and could take him out of the game for Chicago.

Chicago didn't like teams with great D though once again Jordan would still probably come through.

Originally posted by Warmonger
I think Duncan would compeletly own Rodman. Rodman doesn't do well against finesse players like Karl Malone and Duncan is big and taller than Malone. Rodman is like Ben Wallace short but so heavily muscled that lanky guys no matter how tall can simply muscle him. Both of these guys have trouble with semi-agile finesse big men. Guys that use their length to make bank shots and hooks. What you are more likely to see is Rodman not trying too hard to defend him but making sure that any misses are instantly rebounded because Duncan is too good down there. Also I don't really thik Rodman could get into Duncan's head as easily as it would seem. Tim Duncan is simply unintersted in anything Rodman tries he is simply too boring to care. Tim Duncan is probably the Greats PF to play in his time (the rings are what puts him past Malone) and the most consistent.

We also know that SA is not afraid to get physical, these Spurs are every bit as tough defensively as that Knicks team and would scrap out there on defense. Also Popovich is a smart coach he might decide that maybe Bowen is wasted on Jordan and move him to Pippen. Michal would get his points either way but I think Bowen would be much more effective on Pippen and could take him out of the game for Chicago.

Chicago didn't like teams with great D though once again Jordan would still probably come through.

i like your assessments. the bulls wouldn't have won all those championships, imo, were they consistently paired against the spurs. how many WOULD they have won . . .? i'm not sure, but i think the split would have been pretty close.

I'm thinking Popovich would be rotating defenders on Jordan, and make sure they play tough and knock him around. I agree Bowen would be better put on Pippen to get him out of the equation, and Rodman would not be able to get into Duncan's head. Horry wouldn't be a bad play on Jordan, could do some good defensive work and he plays tough.

horry has the size to cause him hassles, but . . . he's pretty slow now-a-days. IF the spurs could not down some shots from outside the arc, they'd be able to beat chicago.

bowen v pippen would be a great match-up. i've got a feeling pippen would get a "headache" in a hurry, and we all know what happens when THAT happens! the little baby. 😆

Interesting game

ron harper was a great defender for the bulls, not stats wise but he does little things, even MJ was quoted as saying the person who guarded him best he no longer has to play against when chicago got ron. this would make tony parkers life hell. bowen can guard mike, but mike would still rule. pippen would be his normal versatile best, and rodman wouldnt be so effective. he didnt do that well in those jazz finals, or teh seattle final for that matter against an in-form kemp, but he did enough and his ability to get into peoples heads cannot be over looked.

bulls would win 4-2 or 4-3

wow spurs look amazing! they beat Lebron James 🙄

The spurs are talented but boring to watch. The bulls had some real magic.

Jordan dominates today's Bulls. Who's gonna gaurd him? Bowen? 😆 What about Pippen? Rodman would give Duncan fits. FITS!

A better match would be Kobe/Shaq Lakers vs Jordan/Pippen Bulls

Agreed

Showtime Lakers annihilate Jordan's Bulls

Originally posted by leonidas
see, what happens here is that as time goes by, we tend to overrate teams, imo. the spurs were at least as good as the bad boy pistons, and they flat out beat up the bulls for 3 years. they were WELL into their decline though, and so coudln't sustain their dominance.

the bulls beat no one in the spurs league in any of their championships. the knicks were arguably their best competition. and the spurs are much better than they were AND the knicks were able to give the bulls a solid run for their money.

with the hardcore defense they can play, i still think the spurs could definitely win a series between them.

The knicks were a very good team and would have won a championship if it wasnt for Mr Jordan. They went when he was retired but lost to a very good rockets team that coul dalso beat your spurs.

Originally posted by guy222
Agreed

Showtime Lakers annihilate Jordan's Bulls

Originally posted by Warmonger
Rodman doesn't do well against finesse players like Karl Malone.

Jordan's Bulls were good, but they played during a time when there really wasn't another elite team in the East except for the Knicks. The Spurs could definitely beat the Lakers and so could the Lakers. To say that the Bulls are unbeatable is just ridiculous.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Those Lakers would have lost. Jordan beat everyone he faced while your Lakers got assraped by the Pistons in the finals.

How so, good buddy

The Lakers had already beaten the Pistons to win a title. The only reason, the Lakers lost the next year was because Magic and Byron had injuries

Ur not gonna tell me, Cartwright and Longley can guard Kareem and Rodman handles Bob Mcadoo. Those showtime Lakers run the pants off Jordan's Bulls

Originally posted by guy222
Those showtime Lakers run the pants off Jordan's Bulls

Anyway that team the Lakers were plagued with injuries and everyone was messed up. Kobe played horrible in that series taking stupid shots, not trusting in his teamates, and jacking up three-pointers everywhere while contested. Shaq and Malone weren't at 100% and Gary Payton didn't know the offense very well. The team was pretty ****ed up that year.